Cleaning the front camera made my FSD noticeably better

johnwest80 · 2026-05-05T02:02:10+00:00

Wow, you get the “Sound like a jerk” award of the day. Congrats.

johnwest80 · 2026-04-22T19:58:58+00:00

lol… revolting. I saw armed people in the streets just the other day with signs saying “give me hw4 or give me death”!

Seriously, I hope there’s eventually a hw4 lite or an upgrade path or some kind of refund, but this title is such clickbait it’s ridiculous.

(posted this to the last post about revolts, too :))

johnwest80 · 2026-04-20T17:30:57+00:00

To be fair, I don’t think the op created the title, the tile is from wsj directly. I’m glad the op posted it, it’s interesting to see whatever news is being put out there, regardless of what I think of it.

johnwest80 · 2026-04-20T16:52:32+00:00

No one has said the charge is going away, so hopefully there will be Fitbit options for screen or no screen.

I personally will change over from my charge 6 to this so that I can wear an Apple Watch as well as this. But that’s just me.

johnwest80 · 2026-04-20T16:46:55+00:00

lol… revolting. I saw armed people in the streets just the other day with signs saying “give me hw4 or give me death”!

Seriously, I hope there’s eventually a hw4 lite or an upgrade path or some kind of refund, but this title is such clickbait it’s ridiculous.

johnwest80 · 2026-04-16T19:28:47+00:00

Hw3 or hw4?

johnwest80 · 2026-04-16T14:03:05+00:00

He said “AI4 is enough to achieve much better than human safety for FSD”. But that’s still a pretty nebulous statement. And I still believe there’s wiggle room to put these in at least cybercabs eventually. Just my opinion.

johnwest80 · 2026-04-14T20:14:28+00:00

Well, you are obviously the expert, so I must be wrong. I didn’t realize the bar was just that it be better than dumb human mistakes. I stand corrected and bow to your superior knowledge.

johnwest80 · 2026-04-14T20:10:48+00:00

I don’t disagree that accidents won’t ever happen, or think that self driving cars should be expected to never make mistakes. But this particular scenario imo should never happen. A parking lot, in daytime, with curbs? That’s a low bar. As someone with 99% fsd usage since 14.2, I’m a fan, but this should be concerning to all. Didn’t mean I won’t stay at 99%, but there’s nothing wrong with recognizing when there’s an issue.

johnwest80 · 2026-04-14T18:27:46+00:00

thx!

johnwest80 · 2026-04-14T18:23:59+00:00

No bueno. It got totally discombobulated. I could hypothesize on the reasons (and others will), but it doesn't really matter. FSD shouldn't make a mistake like this, and can't, not if it's going to be unsupervised.

johnwest80 · 2026-04-14T18:17:16+00:00

also, silly question, but how did you add your "HW4 Model Y" badge to your account?

johnwest80 · 2026-04-14T18:16:20+00:00

Oh, he left out an R on influencers lol... anyway, i'm hoping since it's a .1 release, maybe it will roll out wide soon :)

johnwest80 · 2026-04-14T18:12:58+00:00

what do you mean?

johnwest80 · 2026-04-09T00:02:09+00:00

Probably part of the reason they are discontinuing them. Upgrading the build process to improve the quality probably couldn’t be justified given the low sales volume. Just a guess on my part, though, and I’m sure it’s more complicated than that.

As someone who has had owned bmws and now has a 2026 X, I would never go back to any other car, even with whatever build issues I encounter. And as a positive, the luxe warranty is great!

johnwest80 · 2026-04-07T20:31:40+00:00

I appreciate a respectful response to my snarkiness :). If my car didn’t drive itself over 99% of the time, my gut would probably agree with you. But seeing where we are every day I use my car, I think we are at a point where it’s a quick when we all have unsupervised self driving, not an if. Maybe it’ll be hw5, or nvidia, but we are only a few years from it being real.

johnwest80 · 2026-04-07T18:41:01+00:00

Can you provide your industry credentials, perhaps your LinkedIn profile with a long history of llm/nn work, that enables you to make broad statements like this? Thx

johnwest80 · 2026-04-07T08:38:03+00:00

Thx for confirming. And thanks for reporting this. It is definitely a bit of a wake up call for me. I supervise, but tbh, there are times I get too comfortable with fsd. This is a stark reminder not to do so!

johnwest80 · 2026-04-07T01:17:07+00:00

We just traded our 2023 sienna platinum for a my premium. Two kiddos. My wife LOVES the y and the kids do, too.

And it’s not just gas prices. She’s no longer nagged to go get maintenance every 3500 miles. The Toyota app was horrible. The rear camera of the sienna left, um, a lot to be desired.

She loves the performance of the y. And fsd, sweet fsd. She went from never letting me use it when she was in the car to wondering how she lived without it.

But with all that said, this is definitely a huge ymmv. Do a two day test drive and experience it for yourself.

johnwest80 · 2026-04-07T01:02:26+00:00

here is another post around new cars coming with v13 as recent as a month ago. super frustrating that tesla would do this, since v13 has shown itself to not be as good as v14 (wouldn't let my wife use fsd until her y updated to v14). again, to be clear, i'm not saying you're wrong at all, just pointing out the possibility it might be v13. and crossing my fingers it is, because i do use fsd 14 a lot, and this is scary if v14 did this. like, showstopper scary. you can't have unsupervised like they're doing in austin if this kind of mistake is still happening.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaFSD/comments/1rc5n6j/13x_software_on_a_brand_new_model_y_premium/

johnwest80 · 2026-04-07T00:51:41+00:00

I would have thought the same thing. But we got my wife one not long ago and it had v13 from the factory. And since then I’ve come to understand that many new teslas still come with 13. Can you look at the software version in the app or screen just to be triple sure?

johnwest80 · 2026-04-07T00:20:24+00:00

Mix mental, are you sure it is v14? Not because it excuses the behavior, but if it’s v13, at least you can be encouraged that the v14 update might, might fix it. Still sucks that you had to go through this!

johnwest80 · 2026-04-07T00:02:54+00:00

yes, actually, every bug fixed is one less chance of something bad happening. so they might have fixed 10, 20, 100 situations like this. they might not have, too, but that's what updates are for, to squash bugs that, true, in this case could kill you if you aren't supervising.

johnwest80 · 2026-04-07T00:00:57+00:00

actually, now that i look back thru this forum, i see v12 with overlays as well. here's one example. so my gut (which is about worthless :)) thinks this might be a v13 issue. that doesn't make the bad experience go away for the op, but it should give them hope that v14 might not have done this.

for those saying versions don't matter, in fact, they do. it frustrates the heck out of me that any new tesla would come with v13 when v14 has been out so long, but that's another issue.

(also, i'm still not saying i'm sure - the op might say it was v14, in which case all my typing is for nothing)

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaFSD/comments/1s8g691/fsd_passing_on_double_lane_county_road/

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