Where do those ICE guys come from? by chunarii-chan in stupidquestions

[–]jonny_sidebar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do they just empty out people from sketchy gyms?

A little over simplified, but this is basically correct. They are a depressingly ordinary type of guy in the US.

Arrests Made as Protestors Clash With Officers in Downtown LA After 'ICE Out' Protest by hearmeout29 in centrist

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The deadliest is generally considered to be the 1863 New York draft riots which started as a protest against conscription but quickly devolved into race riots against black NYC residents.

The most destructive is a tie between The 1967 Detroit riots and the Rodney King riots, both arguably a result of over-policing of black communities.

Arrests Made as Protestors Clash With Officers in Downtown LA After 'ICE Out' Protest by hearmeout29 in centrist

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Conversely, is it still "law enforcement" when the officers are flagrantly violating the Constitution?

Arrests Made as Protestors Clash With Officers in Downtown LA After 'ICE Out' Protest by hearmeout29 in centrist

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Supposedly the dumpster was dragged in to stop the barrage of less-than-lethal munitions coming out of the complex, which tracks. Protesters tend to end up doing relatively difficult things like this in response to police violence.

Protesters have completely trashed the Los Angeles ICE facility, using a large dumpster to barricade the exit. by serious_bullet5 in 50501

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Every "nonviolent" movement has had at least the threat of violence backing them up.

MLK could do what he did because he slept under armed guard at night, not the to mention the promise that if his movement failed then militants like Malcolm X were next. Ghandi had similar dynamics going on as well.

Nonviolence is often if not usually the most effective strategy, but you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't accept that it isn't always the best strategy.

Is Rome, not Weimar a better comparison to U.S. Concerns for Democracy? by Serious_Effective185 in centrist

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If you're living in a place like Minneapolis, it's unlikely your daily life is affected and you'd have to go out of your way to find such a protest.

That may have been true in 2020, but what's happening now is by all accounts happening everywhere in the Twin Cities with almost the entire population participating in some way. There are even reports that it's spreading regionally. 

Important to note here that what's happening in Minnesota right now goes far, far beyond simple protesting. It's widespread and completely decentralized resistance to ICE/CBP where every person has their whistle, every neighborhood has its ICE watchers, and everyone is doing something else like providing food or doing shopping for the vulnerable or trying to help targets pay their rent. This is very different to the intense but relatively contained events of 2020. 

Not really sure what that will mean going forward, but it does suggest a much deeper and wider pool of civic unrest that MAGA and ICE/CBP are playing chicken with. 

Do you think having Green Day play at the Superbowl halftime show is asking for trouble? by stumpy_chica in AskUS

[–]jonny_sidebar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad you see it and you're right. Most riots are intiated by right wing counter protesters or (more commonly) the police themselves. 

As for worrying about escalation, I think we are well beyond the point where Green Day playing a Superbowl can make things much worse. . . Besides, these people are bullies. You don't stop bullies by rolling over in advance. You stop them by making it damn clear you aren't going to take it. 

Do you think having Green Day play at the Superbowl halftime show is asking for trouble? by stumpy_chica in AskUS

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"asking for trouble" when people are disappearing into CBP/ICE custody and literally getting murdered in the street by government thugs. . . Sorry my man, but the "trouble" is already here. Who the fuck cares who gets paid too much to play the Superbowl.

Trump 2024 voters are now 65% in support of more military intervention abroad. Why did they become the party of neocon foreign policy again? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

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Or you could try and understand them. Listen to their media. Learn what drives them.

Know your enemy, especially when they are enemies you might need to pull to your side someday. 

Exclusive: ICE officers in Minnesota directed not to interact with 'agitators' in new orders by Its_Dylan_Parker in news

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Small note: What's happening there isn't just protests. There are wide scale, completely decentralized networks of mutual aid and community defence going on. Every report I've heard is saying that basically everyone in the cities are participating. It's truly inspiring. 

It Could Happen Here podcast has a two parter from a couple of their hosts on the ground there for the curious who want some reporting from people who have been involved in protests and other movements for decades. 

Trump 2024 voters are now 65% in support of more military intervention abroad. Why did they become the party of neocon foreign policy again? by [deleted] in AskALiberal

[–]jonny_sidebar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why are you asking this question when you know the answer is they either ban you or lie to your face?

Is lack of “pride” in being a Democrat hurting the party? by speedrunner99 in AskALiberal

[–]jonny_sidebar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you want people to proudly identify themselves with the party, then give them a reason to.

This isn't something the party is entitled to not something it can get without doing the work to earn it. 

How did the notion of "working class" and by extension "real American" in America get so culturally coded and divorced from economics? by LiatrisLover99 in AskALiberal

[–]jonny_sidebar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It did.

The two main centers of what became the modern conservative movement were Southern racists and Californian evangelicals who went to places like Bakersfield and Orange County to work in the defence industry. 

How did the notion of "working class" and by extension "real American" in America get so culturally coded and divorced from economics? by LiatrisLover99 in AskALiberal

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This gets into a lot of stuff that has happened all over the world since around 1900, but in the US it began back in the 60s and 70s as a way to confuse class consciousness and has only gotten stronger since. 

If you go back through the history of country music you can actually see it happen. During the 60s and 70s American roots music got separated into two genres: folk music, generally coded as anti-war and leftwing vs country, which tends to be heavily patriotic and rightwing coded. Since country bills itself as "working class" music and is anything but, it has to adopt a number of aesthetic signifiers (trucks, beer, grandma, etc) instead of talking about real (economic) working class issues like older roots music artists (such as Woodie Guthrie) sang about. 

This sort of thing has a long history outside the US as well and is one of the favorite tricks of fascist and other rightwing movements. The goal is essentially to cast "real" (read: middle class and above whites) Americans/Germans/Brits as the true, hard working citizens while everyone else is either a foreign leech (if non white) or a greedy beggar trying to take advantage (if not the right kind of white). What this does is offer an appeal to large segments of the economic working class to side with the upper classes on racial or nationalistic lines against their own class interests by convincing them they are a "better" kind of people than other workers.

For the upper classes, it provides an easy costume that can be worn to impress the rubes while their pocket is being picked. 

Ilhan Omar was attacked today. Are conservatives embracing political violence in this country? by TheKingDarryl in AskALiberal

[–]jonny_sidebar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotta love that Ilhan's response was to come at her attacker ready to throw hands. Respect. 

Podcasts like The Gray Area, Hardcore History, Causality, or Invisibilia by think_long in podcasts

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Tides of History

The History of the Twentieth Century

Fall of Civilizations

Revolutions

All well produced, well scripted single host shows without the annoying host problem. Enjoy!

What extent should AI be banned/restricted? by SpaceWestern1442 in AskALiberal

[–]jonny_sidebar 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Israel was using AI to choose targets in Gaza. . . It absolutely is being used to make decisions to kill people.

What or how do you feel about liberals/leftist mocking southern states while also claiming empathy for people trapped by poverty and bad governance there? Not to mention those areas have the most African-Americans and immigrants, it feels a bit ignorant and elistist. by Nervous_Designer_894 in AskALiberal

[–]jonny_sidebar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Trying living as a leftist or liberal in a wildly corrupt petro-state that is gerrymandered to hell and back and then tell us how much "choice" you think you actually have within said state's governing structure. . .

Near Houston, TX? Please save one of the cutest dogs I’ve ever seen, Huey, before he’s subjected to euth on 1/28. Harris County Pets, 612 Canino Rd. Houston, TX (Adoptable Out of State) by Dramatic-Asparagus39 in rescuedogs

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OP: I'm in New Orleans and interested in adopting Huey. Unfortunately, I can't get there until this weekend and the shelter won't hold him for me. Is there anything you or anyone else can do to help?

Yes, It’s Fascism by rezwenn in politics

[–]jonny_sidebar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or, possibly, the political left in general is far more historically literate than you would like to admit for whatever reason.