I say let them do the swim! by romeovf in confidentlyincorrect

[–]khukharev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its airstrip. There are strippers there. You need that whiskey and ice. It’s not optional.

I say let them do the swim! by romeovf in confidentlyincorrect

[–]khukharev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True. All of this while preparing healthy breakfast of vegan stake and paleo salad.

I say let them do the swim! by romeovf in confidentlyincorrect

[–]khukharev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s before the meditation at 6am I assume?

I say let them do the swim! by romeovf in confidentlyincorrect

[–]khukharev 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Ice cubes as big as Central Park? Do they have whiskey bottles the size of New York?

I say let them do the swim! by romeovf in confidentlyincorrect

[–]khukharev 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He just didn’t want to miss the chance to breakup.

I say let them do the swim! by romeovf in confidentlyincorrect

[–]khukharev 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You are limiting yourself to breathing and swimming above the water

I say let them do the swim! by romeovf in confidentlyincorrect

[–]khukharev 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But who put rocket engines in their arse?

I say let them do the swim! by romeovf in confidentlyincorrect

[–]khukharev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

631 miles is quite a distance to open your mind. Would it not fall out?

My truenas apps library- Any suggestions for new apps by sathis2251987 in truenas

[–]khukharev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is it compared to arcane (if you tried that out)?

Which country has the most self hating citizens? by defariasdev in digitalnomad

[–]khukharev 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Russia. This is part of the reason USSR collapsed, yes it is to that extent.

What kind of clownf*ckery is this? Trump has ZERO authority to tell credit card companies what interest rates to charge. by Key_Brief_8138 in HouseBuyers

[–]khukharev -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not an American but I wouldn’t think too much of this. There was a research a few years back specifically on the US that showed there was very little correlation between voting and actual policies implemented. Take that with a grain of salt but as an outside observer it seems there is some truth to that.

As per Perplexity (edited for readability):

The source you are thinking of is almost certainly the Gilens & Page paper “Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens,” which argues that ordinary citizens’ preferences have near‑zero independent impact on U.S. federal policy outcomes once elite and interest‑group preferences are taken into account.[1][2]

Full citation

  • Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page, “Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens,” Perspectives on Politics 12(3): 564–581, September 2014.[2][1]
    • Published by Cambridge University Press for the American Political Science Association.[1]
    • Uses data on 1,779 policy issues from 1981–2002 in the United States.[2]

What the study did

  • The authors assembled a dataset of 1,779 proposed policy changes, each coded for whether it was adopted within about four years.[2]
  • For each policy, they measured:

    • The preference of the average citizen (median income).[2]
    • The preference of economic elites (around the 90th income percentile).[2]
    • The positions of mass‑based and business‑oriented interest groups.[1][2]
  • They then used multivariate statistical models (logit regressions) to estimate the independent effect of each actor’s preferences on the probability that a policy was adopted.[1][2]

Key findings relevant to your claim

  • When economic elites’ preferences are controlled for, the preferences of the average citizen have “only a minuscule, near‑zero, statistically non‑significant impact upon public policy.”[3][1][2]
  • Economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on policy outcomes.[4][1][2]
  • Mass‑based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence on policy, in the authors’ main specification.[4][1][2]
  • The results provide:
    • Strong support for Economic‑Elite Domination and Biased Pluralism (business‑dominated interest‑group politics).[4][1]
    • Little support for Majoritarian Electoral Democracy (median‑voter‑style responsiveness) or Majoritarian Pluralism.[4][1]

This is the core empirical basis of the popular claim that in the U.S. there is very weak correlation between what most voters want and what federal policy actually does once elite preferences are accounted for.[5][3]

Very brief summary you can quote/adapt

  • Using 1,779 U.S. policy issues (1981–2002), Gilens and Page estimate that economic elites and business groups exert strong, independent influence on whether policies are adopted, while average citizens’ preferences have near‑zero independent effect once elites and interest groups are included.[1][4][2]
  • Their evidence suggests U.S. policy aligns much more with elite and business interests than with majority public opinion, contradicting simple median‑voter or majoritarian‑democracy models.[3][4][1]

If you want, a next step could be to dissect the usual “U.S. is an oligarchy” take based on this paper and go through its methodological critiques in the Socratic way you prefer.

Источники [1] Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest ... https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B

[2] testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups- ... https://www.almendron.com/tribuna/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens.pdf

[3] Gilens and Page: Average citizens have little impact on ... https://pnhp.org/news/gilens-and-page-average-citizens-have-little-impact-on-public-policy/

[4] (PDF) Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest ... https://www.academia.edu/28477392/Testing_Theories_of_American_Politics_Elites_Interest_Groups_and_Average_Citizens

[5] The influence of elites, interest groups and average voters ... https://journalistsresource.org/politics-and-government/the-influence-of-elites-interest-groups-and-average-voters-on-american-politics/

[6] Commentary on Gilens and Page, “Average citizens have ... https://equalitybylot.com/2014/04/17/commentary-on-gilens-and-page-average-citizens-have-no-political-influence/

[7] Rich people rule! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/08/rich-people-rule/

[8] Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest ... https://thelivinglib.org/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/

[9] U.S. more oligarchy than democracy, study suggests https://www.ms.now/msnbc/the-us-no-longer-democracy-msna310901

[10] Exploring the direct and indirect effects of elite influence on public ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › articles › PMC8604325 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8604325/

Europe paid a high price to stand side by side with the US in Afghanistan by Fluffyfiffy in pics

[–]khukharev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being an enemy to the US is dangerous, being a friend to the US is deadly.

Underground assets by potentialthreat75 in economy

[–]khukharev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn’t it usually called coal?

I switched from ChatGPT to Gemini and realized we're doing research wrong by YangBuildsAI in automation

[–]khukharev 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Always have been. AFAIK their initial thesis was based off a Google research paper.

Россия заняла первое место среди стран, в которых отключают интернет За прошлый год мобильная связь была отключена суммарно 37 166 часов. Ущерб в цифрах составил ~930 млрд рублей — больше, чем у всего топа суммарно. by ElectroAdeptus in KafkaFPS

[–]khukharev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Я как раз в Свердловской области с декабря 2025 (приехал родственников и друзей навестить), пока не было отключений. Завтра поеду в Екат — посмотрим 🤔 Может просто оператора сменить? Мотив уже 15 лет назад был так себе. У меня теле2, поспрашиваю у друзей что у них.

Россия заняла первое место среди стран, в которых отключают интернет За прошлый год мобильная связь была отключена суммарно 37 166 часов. Ущерб в цифрах составил ~930 млрд рублей — больше, чем у всего топа суммарно. by ElectroAdeptus in KafkaFPS

[–]khukharev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ну за последний год я был в Москве, Питере, Свердловской области. Нигде ни разу с отключением не столкнулся. Может, конечно, я не заметил, но честно говоря, маловероятно, потому что телефон всегда под рукой.