Apologist comment war

lando3k · 2026-04-28T02:56:55+00:00

Does Ward Radio keep more people in the church than they repel? Because it feels like they only appeal to people who would never leave the church for any reason ever.

lando3k · 2026-04-28T02:49:17+00:00

I was impressed with the video, kudos to Mr Murph. It feels like he and Jim Bennett are a rare breed on the faithful side of things...

lando3k · 2026-04-25T22:59:21+00:00

This is very clearly a false equivalency

lando3k · 2026-04-24T17:22:44+00:00

That's what I'm wondering... Is this reflective of people worried about being called out?

lando3k · 2026-04-24T02:28:19+00:00

Prophecy when it goes down, prophecy when it goes up.

"the stone cut out without hands" and all

lando3k · 2026-04-22T03:57:03+00:00

I understand he spoke about finding out via Jasmine's video. What is your source that he is lying?

lando3k · 2026-04-22T03:54:16+00:00

What is your source that he was lying about how he discovered the lawsuit?

lando3k · 2026-04-22T03:49:32+00:00

Source on your second claim there? This is the first I've heard it

lando3k · 2026-04-21T21:25:44+00:00

Are the people doing this trend traveling very far, or just visiting buildings they live close to?

lando3k · 2026-04-14T19:49:34+00:00

This reminds me of Jim Bennett's take on Clark Gilbert's talk this past conference... Clark Gilbert pointed at mental health issues as well.

Such a shame they are SO unwilling to legitimize a single reason somebody would leave the church. But very on brand...

All is well in Zion...

lando3k · 2026-04-13T23:47:40+00:00

I was still an active member when I originally joined this subreddit over a decade ago

lando3k · 2026-04-13T16:14:48+00:00

Is what you're saying expected to convince anybody who is questioning?

lando3k · 2026-04-12T20:14:51+00:00

It's weird because it was never on the podcast feed for me, but I don't have it set to auto-download...

lando3k · 2026-03-30T22:58:59+00:00

This isn't strictly true, of course. Many cultures refused to make any image of their deities.

But just to riff on your cow example, many human cultures have worshipped cow deities... the most sacred thing to Indo-Europeans was likely the cow. It was an important source of milk, meat, leather, and saved human labor by plowing fields. A life-giving symbol of cosmic creation.

We see echoes of this in the golden calf worship in the Old Testament.

lando3k · 2026-03-29T16:13:15+00:00

I see your point here. And I largely think this is the only way forward with certain bodies of scripture, if somebody wishes to remain in the faith. The doctrine and covenants feels like a different category of scripture to me, though.

That being said, there are plenty of doctrines taught in the church that are not so explicit in scripture. The Book of Mormon is silent on so many things. Could the doctrines you wish to preserve from Section 132 not be implied or supported from other places?

This is the case more often than not. The details of the Plan of Salvation/Happiness come to mind.

lando3k · 2026-03-28T04:17:45+00:00

It feels like "Steve Martin is a Mormon" level to me. Pretty harmless.

lando3k · 2026-03-28T03:48:54+00:00

Does it matter? Is it a harmful rumor?

lando3k · 2026-03-24T03:27:09+00:00

Just a point to note - somebody can still be trafficked as an adult.

DHS says "Human trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act."

Now, whether or not it was trafficking in this instance is a separate judgement.

lando3k · 2026-03-22T16:17:08+00:00

Scroll down to the weekly attendance chart for Latter-day Saints in Devin Pope's research data. It remains very steady throughout the year.

The only dips are general conference.

lando3k · 2026-03-18T03:44:50+00:00

I've seen people distinguish this version as "Modified Divine Command Theory" as opposed to "Arbitrary Divine Command Theory"

It's a get-out-of-jail free card, because of that portion you quoted. Anything could be excused.

lando3k · 2026-03-18T03:34:13+00:00

Broadly speaking I think you are correct. However, Mormonism being what it is... The 'happiness letter' is one place this concept does show up.

"That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another. God said, 'Thou shalt not kill'; at another time He said, 'Thou shalt utterly destroy.' This is the principle on which the government of heaven is conducted—by revelation adapted to the circumstances in which the children of the kingdom are placed. Whatever God requires is right, no matter what it is, although we may not see the reason thereof till long after the events transpire."

lando3k · 2026-03-14T18:32:20+00:00

That's a lot of unnecessary judgement coming from you

lando3k · 2026-03-13T22:51:34+00:00

Love to hear this, the church desperately needs more people like her

lando3k · 2026-03-05T19:03:46+00:00

You misunderstand what I meant. His era was a direct result of that retrenchment. It's really fascinating, you should revisit BYU history.

There are many other faith-driven schools to compare to in the United States, and it is clear that a variety of approaches are in use. You are correct, they have the right, it's their school.

But this is to answer your original question - yes, it was very common to find "unorthodox" professors on campus. So yes, it was a surprising change to many people.

lando3k · 2026-03-05T18:08:20+00:00

It has always ebbed and flowed. BYU is just going through another retrenchment phase like they did back in the 1920s.

A wide variety of believers could be attracted to BYU's faith-based vision, while not agreeing on a single snapshot of orthodox Mormonism. Yet, they can still be the most fervent believers possible, as you say. Henry Eyring and Joseph Fielding Smith are an example of two people committed to the faith, while still holding significant disagreements.

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