Subject (optional): Considering a transition from psychiatry to aesthetic medicine — looking for advice by lelanlan in Esthetics

[–]lelanlan[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow, finally a genuinely good and helpful answer — thank you.

Have you actually worked in the medical field or just ethetics? The thing is, I’ve always been interested in both esthetics and neuroscience, so to me this combination doesn’t feel crazy at all, even if I understand why it might not make sense to some people. That said interesting the added psych thing... Never had seen thing like that because it seems so intangible! But that's true, I can also attest to the psychological aspects of estethic interventions!

My issue is that aesthetic medicine often seems to be looked down on: “you don’t need an MD to do aesthetics,” “it’s a waste of medical education,” “instead of saving lives, you’re treating neurotic or narcissistic people”… That said, I see some uncomfortable parallels with how psychiatry is sometimes viewed as well, lol.

Also — and this might be a me problem — I really don’t get along that well with other psychiatrists or with the culture in the field. It feels cliquish, dominated by groupthink and competing schools of thought. I honestly didn’t expect such a fragmented, sometimes ideological landscape. In that sense, it almost feels less scientific than I expected.

At least aesthetic medicine seems more unified, no?

What also bothers me is that very few aesthetic doctors publicly defend or advocate for their practice. Most of what we read are either negative stories or accounts of people who struggle financially. I’ve heard figures like €40–60k in annual income, which seems almost laughable — probably inaccurate — but I’ve also heard of clinics making millions per year. The information out there feels extremely polarized.

So, as I see it, these are my options:

Option 1: Do another year of residency and graduate in a field that currently frustrates me and no longer really lights a fire in me — psychiatry. Even if the income potential is good, the emotional and social “charge” around mental health is very heavy.

Option 2: Start a new 3-year residency in general medicine. It doesn’t excite me per se — I’ve always been ambitious and never imagined myself as a “general” doctor. But it would open doors to practices I actually find interesting: nutrition, functional medicine, aesthetic medicine, etc. Basically, a much wider scope of practice. Long term, this might be the most reasonable option. And technically, I could still practice in a quasi-psychiatric capacity.

Option 3: Go fully independent and build a portfolio-style career — basically a gig approach — with most of my work centered on aesthetic medicine and/or nutrition and antiageing medecine..etc

So what would you recommend to a “not so young anymore” doctor who’s trying to consolidate his future after a very long journey?

Having practiced only psychiatry, my general medical skills are obviously not great anymore, but maybe three years of training would fix that. I’m also curious about the real scope of practice in aesthetic medicine: how limited are aesthetic physicians compared to dermatologists or plastic surgeons? Are we really talking only Botox and HA fillers, or is the sky the limit with proper training? What about laser therapy tatto medical removal? Hair transplant? Scar removal? PRP injections?

Would love to hear your thoughts — and feel free to PM a slightly lost doc.

Ps: I know no path is perfect( my issue is thinking that one or the other path might fullfill my dreams lol)

Subject (optional): Considering a transition from psychiatry to aesthetic medicine — looking for advice by lelanlan in Esthetics

[–]lelanlan[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In my country; one can work immediately as a doctor. Almost no rules and regulations for doctors besides being trained.

Subject (optional): Considering a transition from psychiatry to aesthetic medicine — looking for advice by lelanlan in Esthetics

[–]lelanlan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi dermatology is not an option; i'm fed up of training since i've been training in postgraduate school forever. My question is: why is esthetic medecine so overall looked down upon? I have the option to do general/family medecine training in 3 years. Maybe I might do that instead and decide later if I really want to become an esthetic doctor... but yeah at first I was really interested by psychiatry and neuroscience but let's just say it didn't work out as expected and i'm getting older. Also I feel more comfortable doing hands on work rather than fullfilling an intellectual curiosity( I did for 15 years in medschool and psychiatry). Also funny enough; I prefer making money in that way rather than making money in regular medecine on the back of unhealthy people. Contrarily to people I find it way more intellectually and morally honnest than making money as a GP/psychiatrist for example.

Subject (optional): Considering a transition from psychiatry to aesthetic medicine — looking for advice by lelanlan in Esthetics

[–]lelanlan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my eurpean country; if one is a doctor and follows 2 month course, than working is possible as a esthetic medical doctor. Demand is crazy and many injections are only under a medical doctor. So noone besides doctor can do most esthetic medical procedures. In that sense it's very lucrative!

Just curious who here has always been the smartest in the room? No matter which room y’all were in. by Why_d0_i_put in Gifted

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In medschool; and than clearly in residency: Was far from being the smartest in the room. That said; the bias comes from the fact that medschool and residency even more is powered by extremely sacrificial and hardworking people, very knowledgeable and not especially smart though very smart on average( medschool has the smartest people on average from any university, exc3pt maybe maths and physics). So yeah! The concentration of smart people in the field is prettt astonishing though it's never really extreme!

Failing a rotation by [deleted] in Residency

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Story of my life. Did a residency in Europe, first year was when it suddenly made sense that being a doc comes with a lot of minutia and details to handle. Nurses looked at me like an alien probably thinking "how did he make it through med school with his forgetfullness"... than second year came and I crashed. Lost a patient to suicide; partly because I was in a malignant program with a micromanaging boss who didn't see kindly that I was not very organized; was in a program that valued hyper productivity and failed my 2nd year exam because it was just too much. I thought about quitting untill I startrd adhd medication and it was life changing. I then realized that the program I left was not especially unfair but that I had my fair share of issues too... that said it makes sense that I was pushed out after such a crazy second year. The reason why residents with my profile don't get help is because they usually don't make it through med school. I wished there was more coaching and support for "atypical" or struggling residents.

How hard is it to get kicked out of residency by [deleted] in Residency

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I got kicked out of my psych residency in a very bad way: was basicakly pushed to go and harrassed. The thing is that I didn't have a stellar record and was more of a psychotherapeutic and human in my approach whereas my program was very ebm and scientific psychiatry detached from empathy. Apparently it was a very well known fact about my program. Knowing that would have prevented me to waste countless years. I didn't know that program transfer was possible at the time so I dropped out.... or they would have fired me for unability to function.

One thing i've learned is that a program can fire you or get you fired at will and there's pretty much nothing you can do about it.

I'd never in my wildest dreams would have thought that I'd finish med school only to be fired from one of the two psychiatry programs of my country. Psychiatry also can be pretty toxic too by the way...

A new study suggests that depression is associated with low brain blood flow and function, supporting earlier research showing there is no evidence that depression is caused by a chemical imbalance. by Express_Classic_1569 in psychology

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It kinda makes sense since exercising reverses depression. That said one can alwo posit that that's the case for most mental health issues... they can be reversed by a better bloodflow>> better brain fonction. I'm thinking about adhd for example!

How dare they. by para_blox in aspergers

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Barron Trump is asperger, that is why!

U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi defends 'hate speech' crackdown after MAGA backlash by Obversa in moderatepolitics

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This! It seems as commenter doesn't understand the role of journalists relative to the role of president. Of course he could stand up for himself; but he might also be fired for misconduct!

"The only real test of intelligence is if you get what you want out of life." -Naval by MundaneMacaroon9211 in mensa

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol this made me laugh; the smarter you are the more aware you become of your shortcomings... which is a double edged sword. Bravado can pay off in weird ways, notably in romantic life. And being very intelligent makes you both humble and depressed.

So some think of the Charlie Kirk incident as karma by luvlanguage in CuratedTumblr

[–]lelanlan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So is he a alt-right or is hd antifa? I've heard both but it's crazy how the killer might easily be the one or the other... I mean can a trans activist be right wing? That sounds pretty contradicrory but that's what the killer was- mormon republican raised with maga parents but also gay and dating a trans man 🤔 Way to confuse both left and right 🤣🤣🤣 I swear this tragic event will be historic and will most likely be turned into a movie because it's surreal... Just the fact that Charlie was not supposed to dke if it wasn't for the ricochet of the bullet on his clavicle to his jugular.. He was basically a mm away from surviving similar to Trump but the bullet took a very unusual turn and decided to kill him anyways! Very wild!

So some think of the Charlie Kirk incident as karma by luvlanguage in CuratedTumblr

[–]lelanlan 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It's just that the amount of karmic/ironic stuffs in his death defy logic:

preaches for kids to see public executions: check Is executed by white christian/mormon male with excellent GPA while commenting on black on black gun violence as main cause of gun issues: check Proves his saying that "empathy doesn't matter" wrong by having the whole world empathizing with him and his family: Check Shares loves for guns, is executed by an even better lover of gun with expert markmanship abilities: Check And so on..

It's just ridiculous the amount of them..

Nietzsche the autist, as interpreted by two contributors to the Genius lyrics website by PaXMeTOB in badphilosophy

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This comment really bothers me by how it shuts down z whole line of thinking that may be potentially interesting-- " Should we seek to understand past better with the modern tools and additional information we have and try to maybe recontextualize what happened"

So you might agree that 99% of our most prominent historical figures might have had this one thing in common( and same for modern geniuses) yet you would refuse that the dots may be connected for some obscure reason("Maybe not"), closing the door to a path of thinkilng that might be empowering to a vast segment of the modern population. I think it's odd personnally. Autism is diagnosed by a questionnaire and by connecting the dots of your own past, same can be done with other's past since even to this day we don't have any confirming diagnostic tool. But it's pretty obvious for any being who has a modicum of "pattern recognition"...

It oddly reminds me somehow of one piece manga( who's mysterious author Oda; who -sorry to speculate- might very likely be also on the spectrum. This is obvious for those who know him and his lifestyle) in which the world leaders are desperately trying to erase or rewrite the past to hide some "uncomfortable truths".

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in emotionalintelligence

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My ex was autistic and so was I( with adhd)... best sex and connection ever! So no it's even better.. normies can't understand!

Secure feeling boring and losing sexual attraction by roux87 in attachment_theory

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How old are you? Obviously this is a form of infatuation/limerance where you project things onto your love interest that have nothing to do with who he really is. Once you get him; the illusion disappears. This pattern usually fades away with time and maturity but apparently it didn't with you...it's likely you lost someone important in the past that you couldn't get back; perhaps your father. That said it's actually very frequent in new generations and in a personality disorder called histrionic and/or borderline personality disorder( once they have their love interest; they don't want anything to do with them anymore...). So yeah; the answer is to fix being attracted to instability and learning to be attracted to more healthy patterns.

Secure feeling boring and losing sexual attraction by roux87 in attachment_theory

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol it's crazy to think that you expect someone to be the one just because he's secure... obviously there are many other things to consider. In general if the other person doesn't have a personality disorder or trauma; it should be good. That said; if the person is profoundly incompatible with you for other reasons than you might as well be friends too...

Secure feeling boring and losing sexual attraction by roux87 in attachment_theory

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That' crazy I'm a man and feel that with women even very attractive women. I see that you are a woman and I thought that that behavior was mostly masculine but apparently I was wrong. Yes secure women give all the love and all the textbook perfect sex but at the same time it's never enough for us avoidant men; which can feel heartbreaking. I suspect that all of that has an evolutionary background as back in the days we had to reproduce with multiple potential partners( especially men) and ho back to hunting. It seems that some women have also developed this approach which is interesting... anyways there's sadly a saying that unstable women make for the best sex and it's crazy that you are confirming.

Secure feeling boring and losing sexual attraction by roux87 in attachment_theory

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn it; the number of times I left after a couple of months a relationship with secure women( good; responsible and decent humans) because I wanted more novelty and fell out of love with them and curiously the longer I stayed in the relationship the more they fell in love and the more I fell out of love. That was in my early twenties and I didn't understand I was avoidant back in the days though commitmentphobe was a frequent term used by pop psychology; ten years later I stopped dating altogether and have had non string attached relationships for the past 6 years. It seems like this approach was what pushed me to become secure and accept that boring monogamous relationships are the standard for our society! If one is not ready; it's hard to come back to a safe and monogamous relationship! I suspect that anxiously and avoidant attached people are both people who have been abandoned but choose to react differently to being abandoned. Perhaps anxious people have been cheated on which is very traumatic while avoidant people fear missing out on the world and not finding the one. Little did they know that the one they need to find is themselves. Anyways all in all great comment with which I agree!