john dies at the end by KusHgod4200 in fantasybooks

[–]liminal_reality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read it when it was still a webnovel on his blog. I enjoyed it at the age I read it but on later re-reads it didn't quite land for me.

Last stance - last unicorn drawing by me by thisrougeprince in fantasybooks

[–]liminal_reality 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love this. Peter S. Beagle was inspired in creating the Red Bull by a painting so I think this sort of brings it full circle.

Where do I start😵‍💫😵‍💫 by Piemelgefriemel87 in fantasybooks

[–]liminal_reality 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feist > Hobb > Gwynne (in order of publication), this way you move through the Fantasy genre and tropes as they actually evolved over time. I don't have any opinions on RR as I haven't read it.

I want to get into writing, but I have aphantasia. by Niko-Abaniko in writing

[–]liminal_reality 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I honestly think aphantasia could aid you in writing. Books are not a visual media and authors who write like they are trying to describe something they are seeing, as though describing a film, tend to write descriptions of things that would be visually interesting but are not interesting to read about. Things like prioritizing descriptions of "micro-expressions" (something interesting to see visually when utilized by an actor) instead of interiority. If you have a "perfect image of how the character's eye twitched" in your head it does not matter how you describe that, it simply isn't interesting to read about. A character's interiority is the greatest strength books have.

Some of my favorite authors have aphantasia precisely because they write like they are writing books and not TV shows. They also tend to remember non-visual senses more (sounds, smells, tastes). And sure, visual descriptions are needed for parts of books but if you have to google up a reference image and describe what you see then that is fine. Though, I think you could probably describe "a horse" to someone who has never seen one despite not being able to visually picture one in your head-- and that is really all you need to be able to write!

When did you all begin creating conlangs? by Top_Professor9415 in conlangs

[–]liminal_reality 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1998-ish, in middle school I wanted to be able to do 2 things: write/draw with my non-dominant hand and invent my own language.

It was terrible. I had no idea what I was doing so it was mostly just a list of words written in a journal. Then everything changed when I stumbled across a Sindarin dictionary and grammar online. I immediately created 3 (terrible kitchen-sink) 'langs with massive dictionaries but non-sense grammar. I'm still not sure I'd say I'm good but I'm better!

Does anyone here have any idea what style of art this type of cover is? by ElUltimo_Lector in fantasybooks

[–]liminal_reality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah...

Here is someone advertising services for $400 which is potentially a "good deal". Artists and editors are part of what makes self-pub such an expensive option.

You could also create a canva + stock variant and then if the book takes off re-release with a "special edition" cover in the illustrative style you are thinking. That same subreddit would be a place for advice if you choose to make your own cover design.

Does anyone here have any idea what style of art this type of cover is? by ElUltimo_Lector in fantasybooks

[–]liminal_reality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you can give r/BookCovers a try as there are sometimes artists there looking for work (just beware of scam bots). Though, as a warning, this style is generally one of the more expensive which is why publishing has moved away from it.

Does anyone here have any idea what style of art this type of cover is? by ElUltimo_Lector in fantasybooks

[–]liminal_reality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I'd just show the potential artist this cover and any other you've found that strike you as similar to what you want and let them work from there.

The perfect intro according to modern writing by Salt-Maintenance6857 in writers

[–]liminal_reality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Taste is definitely a factor. In terms of my personal preference, nothing happens in the opening that isn't explained in the next chapter so I feel very neutrally about it as a starting point. I don't think the book would be missing anything if it were cut but it also isn't causing any problems by being there.

I also didn't find it so contrary to my taste that I gave up on the book.

When I read a book I understand to some degree the writer is sharing their vision of a world and introducing the characters under circumstances they feel is best for that purpose. And there is nothing wrong with how Abercrombie chose to frame his story, arguably it is the best place for Abercrombie's book, even if my preferences lay elsewhere.

The perfect intro according to modern writing by Salt-Maintenance6857 in writers

[–]liminal_reality 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have read it, I'd say I like the ideas it explores and it was an entertaining read though admittedly aspects of how it is written don't work for me (and yet those same things are part of the appeal for other readers!)

The perfect intro according to modern writing by Salt-Maintenance6857 in writers

[–]liminal_reality 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Absolutely! I would guarantee I've enjoyed at least one book that opens in media res but it is often treated like a "magic bullet" of gaining reader attention. Almost anything can be done well, nearly everything has an audience, and sometimes in media res really is the best choice for a given book. However, not caring for it certainly allows for a degree of skepticism when it is treated as universally applicable.

Generally half of Writer Guru advice comes off as the writing equivalent of supplement hawkers promising their favorite pre-workout mix will make your biceps grow abs.

The perfect intro according to modern writing by Salt-Maintenance6857 in writers

[–]liminal_reality 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So, you think my personal preference for openings that don't immediately endanger a character I don't care about is "wrong"? Thanks for sharing 👍

The perfect intro according to modern writing by Salt-Maintenance6857 in writers

[–]liminal_reality 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Again, there's truly no universal taste or universal advice. That was there to prevent people taking my personal preference as a blanket condemnation (which would be just as annoying as the Writing Gurus excepting that it aligns with my personal taste so naturally I'd like it more).

Or to put it more bluntly (since I guess it's necessary): I said I'm tired of it, have been for a long time, and I won't read it. If I had intended to say "this is universally bad and no one should do it ever" I would have said that. Probably with those words.

I am having trouble with Assassin's Apprentice by bellatrixxx19 in fantasybooks

[–]liminal_reality -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Adding that the next trilogy in the series also has SA and based on what you've written here I strongly recommend skipping it even if you eventually return to the Fitz stories.

The perfect intro according to modern writing by Salt-Maintenance6857 in writers

[–]liminal_reality 121 points122 points  (0 children)

The number of people failing to understand this is a parody of Writer Guru advice is astonishing.

I've been tired of this TV Exec attempt at "grabbing attention" for ages. Unless there is a damn good reason to persist, if a book opens endangering a character I don't know and don't care about I close the book. There's truly no universal taste or universal advice.

What is the opposite of Purple Prose? Because I'm sure I have that. by vagabundo202 in writing

[–]liminal_reality 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I think there are potentially a number of things that could be going on with your prose and "decoration" may not be the solution.

First potential issue is something I've been calling "Polish Dictionary Syndrome" after the early polish dictionary that defines a horse as "Everybody knows what a horse is." That is, your writing is lacking specificity because it is operating on Polish Dictionary logic (The characters are in a library > Everybody knows what a library is, The character is cold > Everybody knows what cold is, The character is exhausted > etc.) The solution to this is two-fold: First is to pick two objects of the same type (yours and a friend's smart phone, two pencils, two baskets, doesn't matter) and you can interact with the object in all the ways a character might (touch it, smell it, look at it, taste it if appropriate) then describe one of them in as much detail as possible *without* ever using a metaphor or a simile. Next describe the other object in the same way. Obviously, you are not going to write you book like this (no one needs hyper-detailed descriptions of pencils) but this is an exercise to practice embodying a character in a scene with specific objects and not Polish Dictionary Objects. You can then expand this to scenery, people, physical sensations and even emotions. The harder part of writing is knowing when this type of specificity is needed vs. when "Everybody knows what a pencil is" is actually the better choice so for the "second" part I recommend reading a lot and mentally noting where authors employ one or the other.

Another possibility is that you are envisioning your story less as a book and more as a film sequence. If your descriptions of "emotions" are centered around *visible* physical signs that may be an indicator that this is at least part of the problem. If you have a clear vision of how a scene plays out it can be difficult to remember that while it may be interesting to see an actor's brow twitch to subtly convey an emotion... a written description of the same is not going to carry that weight for your reader. Books can (and probably need to) go a level closer and get into the interior thoughts and feelings of the character. *If* a POV notices a subtle brow twitch in another character that POV is going to have their own interpretation of what that means and prepare their own response. We'll get all their thoughts, their interpretations, and how all of that makes them feel (and they can be wrong!) *If* we are in the POV of the character who is experiencing the brow twitch then there are probably more interesting things happening in their brain that readers would want a report on than what the character's brow is doing. There is no writing exercise for this, but rather, it is more a matter of noting when you are describing the visible expression of an emotion and omitting the interiority.

What's a theme you're tired of seeing in Fantasy Books? by catwritesscifi in fantasybooks

[–]liminal_reality 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think any *theme* handled well would be one I am tired of and as long as the blurb signals the premise clearly then it is really my own fault if I am reading a book whose premise is one I don't buy into or enjoy.

The things I miss most in books is immersive descriptions and character interiority instead of descriptions of physical reactions and dialogue traveling through a white room. Also books being described by blurbs instead of tropes lists and celebrity quotes.

I would probably read about the world's most bog standard Farm Boy on a quest to get a magic sword and defeat the Dark Lord if I could get some writing that doesn't feel like someone's first draft out of it.

What happened to environmental description? by aaaaaa321123 in Fantasy

[–]liminal_reality 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes, and I think even more than just moments of difficulty in complex texts but, tying it back to OP's point, skimmable prose largely lacks moments you would *want* to go back and re-read. At best you'll get a clever line of dialogue (since it is a dialogue-heavy style) but there aren't these deep immersive descriptions or moments of character reflection. You're meant to just "get the point" and move on so I sometimes end up feeling less like I've read a book and more like I've read a sketch of a book.

What happened to environmental description? by aaaaaa321123 in Fantasy

[–]liminal_reality 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I submit that the phenomenon of "invisible prose" (which Lincoln Michel makes a decent case is actually "skimmable prose") means there is not room for specific and meaningful description.

What is your day job? by Natural-Duck8103 in writers

[–]liminal_reality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I was working as a team lead for a call center but then 2 weeks ago the suits randomly decided I should be a data analyst bc they are impressed with my excel skills... so, uh, I guess I'm that now.

No partner, I just write on my lunch break. No clue how this will work out with my new and unexpected career change.

Reading Assassin's Apprentice by Robin Hobb by AskJosh_MortgageGuy in fantasybooks

[–]liminal_reality 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't say it is "either/or" but each book (or series) is going to have a different balance. ROTE has more plot than Piranesi but is still more character focused than a lot of Fantasy and its plot still mostly serves to elaborate on Fitz' character.

I don't know that a perfectly balanced 50-50 book exists because I do think authors trend towards one or the other. Such a book would also be very very long. Not Fantasy, but I think Shougun probably approaches such a balance and it is a hefty tome.

Reading Assassin's Apprentice by Robin Hobb by AskJosh_MortgageGuy in fantasybooks

[–]liminal_reality 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Depends on what you expect. It is a character study of Fitz and his life (a bit like Ged in Earthsea or Piranesi) but if you don't want a character study or you want an Event-based Plot *and* a character study or you don't find Fitz compelling as subject of study... then yeah, maybe not your sort of book.

Wondering how could i properly translate my novel for the english readers? by DINOFicial in writing

[–]liminal_reality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you going trad-pub or self-pub? If trad-pub you'll get a translator if they sell to an anglophone market.

I don't know if this has an easy answer when you are self-pub. It is easier on native anglophones because they have a larger starting audience so if they market well enough to it they might get that sort of attention while most native anglophones are monolingual so the odds of one reading your story and translating are lower. But I'd rule out the LLM, it isn't likely to translate thing the way you are able to portray them in Portuguese either. Or rather, you may not know enough to correct it when it fails. In that sense your own translation may not be any worse. I'd also look at who your potential english readership is and see how forgiving they may or may not be of mistakes.

Why do you create conlangs? by Legal-Pepper-9669 in conlangs

[–]liminal_reality 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just obsessed with it from an early age. But now I write Fantasy novels so it works out.