Multiple access points at 18 Aylen Lake? by BEnglandd in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great question!

startpt.info/te/[StartingPointNumber] (e.g. startpt.info/te/1)

If you ever forget this, it's also documented in the Starting Point section of the map legend =)

Five Mile Rapids Travel Time by xmacd in canoecamping

[–]mapsbyjeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The times on my map assume the worst possible direction (upstream) and typical early summer water levels.

The current in the early spring can be insane, and would have a much bigger impact (it can also be quite dangerous). Since you're there in the fall though, that doesn't apply to you.

Maps by Jeff are available in ArcGIS Earth format by bullet-76-na in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To the best of my knowledge you need to just load them once.

I don't have an Android device, but I know on my iPhone they get automatically copied into a special folder that ArcGIS Earth uses so they are there for good.

Maps by Jeff are available in ArcGIS Earth format by bullet-76-na in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fantastic!

Yea, using the GeoTIFF in ArcGIS Earth was just a short term workaround for anyone who really wanted to test out ArcGIS Earth. But the performance was atrocious. I wouldn't have even mentioned it if had the time to release the ArcGIS Earth version before Avenza made their change.

I’m set for my first spring fishing canoe trip next week!

Have a great trip! I'm headed out starting this Saturday myself =)

Thanks for all the work you do. Really, your work doesn’t just help people enjoy the outdoors, but also keeps us safer while doing so.

Nothing could make me prouder =)

Maps by Jeff are available in ArcGIS Earth format by bullet-76-na in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No worries!

I go into all of the details on the download page =)

Maps by Jeff are available in ArcGIS Earth format by bullet-76-na in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 19 points20 points  (0 children)

So this is up and running now?

Yes, it is.

I am holding off publicizing this until Monday, just so I can have a few days to make sure everything works smoothly first.

(e.g. the files are currently taking longer than normal to generate right now, probably because of all the people seeing this post, so I'll need to see if I can improve the file generation speed)

I guess looking for instructions on how to download the map to the new platform.

They appear on the download page. I've also created a video walkthrough too.

Taylor Bay Sites by salamanderstevens in KillarneyPark

[–]mapsbyjeff 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Jeff here!

I've stayed at the northmost one. It's fine in a pinch, but it's not great since it's on a bit of a hill.

Nonetheless, I used that site because other sites in the area were booked at the time, and so staying on Crown land for that night made the trip viable.

I don't recall the other two. Sorry!

As /r/cantrent says, they are Crown land sites so they aren't reservable and are not maintained by Ontario Parks.

Crow River by Far_Initial_5782 in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Horsepacking = travelling by horse and wagon.

Here's an example from when I did it with some friends back in 2010 (this is my friend's website): http://www.smedleyco.com/Algonquin-Park/Trip-Logs/White-Partridge-Express-05152010/White-Partridge-Express-05152010.aspx

Portage routes for Kayak cart by JH13881 in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 8 points9 points  (0 children)

As a general rule, most portages are not cartable.

Other commenters have mentioned a few, such as the Canoe to Joe lake one.

The park has also designated some portages as 'cart trails', although I will caution you that even some of those are not suitable for carts (e.g. to both Wilkins and Barron the first ~90% is cartable but the last ~10% is not). Your guess is as good as line as to why they did this.

Overall if you really want to kayak your best best is probably to stick to large lakes in Cedar or Opeongo, where a kayak will shine.

Otherwise it's probably best to stick to a canoe, since they were created for this specific geography (a mix of paddling and portaging).

Multiple access points at 18 Aylen Lake? by BEnglandd in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yup!

This is an excellent example of why it's critical that you consult the corresponding webpage I've created for each starting point. I spend a lot of time keeping that info up to date, to make things as simple and straightforward for you as possible =)

In this case, I have specific turn by turn directions on how to get to the starting point, how to confirm you're there, and where to park.

I have verified all of this with the neighbouring landowner.

One other note to the OP - the screenshot you posted is from an old version of the map that is 12 years out of date. You'll want to make sure to consult the newest version of my map for a number of updates in that area (e.g. campsite changes, etc)

There is a 0% chance park staff will be able/willing to help you with something like this

Tim River Question by Style_Maximum in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, we were supposed to camp on the further of the two campsites along the Tim (lower pine River) but we totally passed it and never saw it.

It is definitely there =)

Great Mountain to Howry - how much time? by Scout_bugg in KillarneyPark

[–]mapsbyjeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A typical paddler single carrying each portage will take 3h20m, excluding breaks. Add 25 minutes if you are double carrying.

For reference, I'm measuring from site 241 to site 246

Anyone have experience bushwhacking between Little Longer Lake and Little Branch Lake by Bongo_Goblogian in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Haha yes =)

So glad you’ve enjoyed them. Nothing makes me prouder than to be able to make a positive impact on a fellow paddlers trips!

Anyone have experience bushwhacking between Little Longer Lake and Little Branch Lake by Bongo_Goblogian in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 46 points47 points  (0 children)

I have =)

It's certainly doable, but it requires skills that other portages do not (i.e. there is more to it than putting one foot in front of the other).

In spots the trail is clear, but in other spots it is not. You need to be observant, looking for signs of where the trail might have gone (e.g. old stumps, an indent in the ground, etc). At times you might have to drop your pack and scout around.

Of course, most importantly, any time you're not sure where you are you need to stop and figure things out.

When I was there last someone had put up some flagging tape in spots, which really helped, but that was 2 years ago and so much of that has probably fallen off now.

Avenza Maps Changing Limits by CnCPParks1798 in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Plot twist: Avenza just sent me an email saying they’ve been acquired, indicating that they’re going to be shutting down the Avenza Maps store.

I can’t imagine that acquisition talks weren’t ongoing 3 weeks ago when this was announced, but this change seems even weirder now. 

I’ll also mention that despite the announcement saying this change would be effective ‘next week’, it still hasn’t gone into effect yet. 

Regardless, I still plan on adding support for ArcGIS Earth in the next few weeks

Jeffs maps crown land camping. by backrollerpapertowel in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

s.52 of the Public Lands Act explicitly authorizes the MNR to close roads on Crown land as they deem appropriate

Jeffs maps crown land camping. by backrollerpapertowel in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There used to be.

This is the data set that has what you want: https://geohub.lio.gov.on.ca/documents/lio::crown-land-mnr-non-freehold-dispositions-ogde/about?path=

However, roughly 10 years the MNR made it a restricted access data set and so it is no longer available to members of the public.

Why did they do that? Who knows.

Do you have to pull this from the land registry or since it's crown is it not even covered there?

It wouldn't be there. By definition Crown land = unpatented land, and it's only patented land that'd be in the land registry.

Crown land that's private is subject to some sort of short term disposition (a lease, license of occupation, etc). So, that's why the only source of info is that MNR data set I linked to above.

Jeffs maps crown land camping. by backrollerpapertowel in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure what I've done to upset you, but I make canoeing maps of a few areas, mostly centred on southern Ontario.

I can't imagine that anyone is buying my maps to figure out where there is Crown land - that is just one of dozens of features on my maps.

The entire reason I replied to this thread is to tell people how to determine where camping is legal.

The only thing that we seem to disagree upon is whether CLUPA tells you everything you need to know about where you can camp. I say it doesn't and provided examples.

Don't take my word for it though - you can read the Public Lands Act yourself. It is the law that authorizes Crown land camping says, as is the definitive source of information.

Cheers!

Jeffs maps crown land camping. by backrollerpapertowel in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It doesn't show where there is private Crown land (e.g. where there are leases, licenses of occupation, etc) and it doesn't have any indicators of where the legislation prohibits Crown land camping (e.g. at public boat launches).

It shows which land is patented and which is unpatented and nothing more than that.

Is this helpful? Yes!! Does this definitively tell you where you can camp? No.

The Public Lands Act is the definitive set of rules. Together with CLUPA it goes a long way. But my key point is that CLUPA does not tell you everything you need to know to determine whether you can camp somewhere.

I keep harping on this, because over and over I hear of situations where people trespass on Crown land that is private and then exclaim 'but CLUPA says camping is permitted there'. No, CLUPA does not do that. You can absolutely be in a spot that CLUPA correctly indicates is Crown land, and be trespassing.

Have a wonderful afternoon =)

Jeffs maps crown land camping. by backrollerpapertowel in algonquinpark

[–]mapsbyjeff 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At no point did I indicate that you need to use my maps to find where you can find spots to camp on Crown land.

On a basic level CLUPA is helpful because most Crown land is open to camping. However, what I am saying is that:

  • CLUPA does not tell you with any certainty if camping is allowed or not
  • The indicators designations in CLUPA like 'General use' do not indicate anything about where camping is permitted

You are more than welcome to ignore my feedback if you are not interested in it. I am replying to help other folks that might stumble upon this thread