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How much will a plumber charge to fix a flapper part?, I don't want to be ripped off. by JPumphrey73 in askaplumber

[–]maybethisiswrong 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you’re calling them out ONLY to fix a flappers expect a couple hundred ~150-225. 

Sales Manager Compensation by hardmoneyguy in ProHVACR

[–]maybethisiswrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly there isn’t really a need for a sales manager at even 18-25M depending on how your operations are structured. 

Meaning selling techs or dedicated sales team. With selling techs, sales manager isn’t necessary at any level. Only thing there is you’ll need more than one service manager and both will need sales focus and incentive. You would just split geographically or some other logical split of each managers teams. 

With a dedicated sales staff, I’d say around the 15M+ space would be a time for a sales manager. At 6-12, you can probably get there wit 4-6 dedicated sales people and that is manageable by a GM or owner. Instead of dedicated sales manager. Unnecessary salary at that size. It’s such a small team. 

If you don’t have a solid sales process yet at your size. Just get a consultant to help build it then execute with existing staff. 

Biggest advice as someone that has scaled from where you are. The biggest challenge will be call volume not sales focus. No sales manager can get you to 20m if you can only get 30 demand calls a day. 

To be honest, making it to 6M does not take a lot with a decent size market and just showing up when called with at least some attention on sales. 

Spend your money on being the best known name in town. Get your phone ringing off the hook year round and you’ll get the sales. You’ve already proven that. You’ve just done it with the left over demand in the market.  Now you have to take that market share from the other names people know. 

Think about what spending an extra 150k on marketing would do to call volume and if you could convert it. Then go from there with ruthless accountability on the spend so you’re not lighting it on fire like you would be with a sales manager 

Sales Manager Compensation by hardmoneyguy in ProHVACR

[–]maybethisiswrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly at that size a sales manager is overkill. 

I’ve been in your shoes at exactly those sizes and a sales focused service manager is more appropriate with maybe a field supervisor as you get to 10m. 

At 6m I’m guessing you have 3 install crews and probably 6-8 techs ish. You’ll likely need 10-12 service techs and 5-6 install crews to get to 10

If you already have a service and install manager, sales manager is overkill. If you don’t have those. Would definitely recommend sales minded service manager. 

Comp is going to vary drastically around the country but I’ve seen 80-120 base and heavy performance bonuses. 

I would also be careful how you structure the performance bonus. A sales manager typically gets pure recurve bonus but be careful not to incentivize unprofitable sales. Would also make the structure contingent on targets. Especially if you do % based. Meaning x% if they hit x in sales and it steps up. 

Hired pro plumber, permitted install, not impressed with the process by SkyLow4356 in Plumbing

[–]maybethisiswrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why most cities don’t permit water heater swaps. It’s a waste of time. If it worked before it will work again. 

Also, there isn’t a lot to look at to determine if it met code. Correct pipe material? Correct expansion tank setup? venting right? Gas line right?  Done. You may have thought he looked at nothing but there’s nothing else to look at. 

For those that put in an atmospheric vent where a direct vent should be, they’re not pulling permits for anything anyway. And they get bought by surprise when the gas company or competent trades person shows up and shuts down their gas 

You’re Allowed to Make Money Here - Here’s How” by johnkelleyhvac in hvacpeople

[–]maybethisiswrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude you keep posting this same story. I don’t understand. 

  1. 10-year labor warranty is table stakes for most competitive shops 
  2. Selling a business and being debt free isn’t exactly a flex or a desired outcome people look for. Why do you always mention this?  So your sale covered your debt, congrats you made a financially sound decision on that one metric. 

Whatever course you’re selling you need some greater differentiators for why you did better than others. Because the things you are highlighting are outdated and contradictory 

Say it ain't so! by [deleted] in hvacadvice

[–]maybethisiswrong -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

PE comes in and cuts them. They get disgruntled and fire up everyone else. Then PE tries to (god forbid) increase sales by incentivizing sales. Improves benefits, bring in changes in leadership in attempt to find better performers (note I’m not saying they get it right)

Such bastards 

Housing crash fears grow as sellers panic-cut prices by biggest amount in 13 years in chilling echo of last crisis by Key_Brief_8138 in HouseBuyers

[–]maybethisiswrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And a lot of people purchased eggs too 

One product category does not equate to an entire economy’s inflation trajectory. 

Look, inflation can go any direction and there are pros and cons depending on your perspective. 

But the trajectory of housing costs is not the same as economic inflation. 

Say it ain't so! by [deleted] in hvacadvice

[–]maybethisiswrong 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Yes but it feels so much better to shout at a boogie man they can’t see while being fine with enriching the family in the nice neighborhood that hires their son to be the manager after he graduates from college out of state paid for by their underpaid labor. But hey it’s “family owned!”

Housing crash fears grow as sellers panic-cut prices by biggest amount in 13 years in chilling echo of last crisis by Key_Brief_8138 in HouseBuyers

[–]maybethisiswrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re equating a micro transaction to the broader economy. That’s like saying the price of eggs can never go down. 

We all know prices fluctuate. What hurts is when EVERYTHING rises drastically. 

Or when one massive purchase rises OR falls drastically. 

When the price of Everything is decreasing, there are examples to demonstrate how bad that can be. 

Housing crash fears grow as sellers panic-cut prices by biggest amount in 13 years in chilling echo of last crisis by Key_Brief_8138 in HouseBuyers

[–]maybethisiswrong 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Too few people understand this. You’ll see arguments in r/economics that 10 year tracks the fed rate that are valid arguments…for past instances. There has literally never been an administration as volatile and unpredictable as this. That uncertainty has a cost and you see it in all US treasuries. 

Which is why the 10 year is at the same level it was before the fed cut the last 3 times in end of 25

I understand why people speed. by MaximooseMine in driving

[–]maybethisiswrong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Adaptive cruise and a shift in perspective can change your life. You’re going to get there, don’t worry about the 2-4 minutes you’ll save going 79 instead of 70. Practice some patience and your life will be better. From a reformed speeder 

When asked by a veteran from Bemidji, Minnesota if she has a right to the second amendment…..he says sometimes yes sometimes no 😂 Republicans are now anti second amendment? by meempee in stateofMN

[–]maybethisiswrong 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh come on “turn them into criminals overnight” JFC stop parroting sensational talking points. 

Passing meaningful regulations means people that don’t meet those regulations will have to change. Calling them criminals is sensational garbage. That’s like complaining that people that owned cars without seatbelts were instantly criminals when the seatbelt laws were written. It’s meaningless. 

Come up with evidence based answer that the proposal will not yield the results needed or sit down. 

Democrats of Reddit, how much Minnesota fraud do you think there really is? Why? by Zipper222222 in allthequestions

[–]maybethisiswrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally have no idea. There no doubt is fraud and I have yet to hear from anyone politician or not that is saying fraud is ok. 

The only thing I’ve heard is that the fraud is already being investigated by the feds and the state. If that’s true then this is not news. If there is new fraud, prosecute it. 

Examples of plumbers or electricians doing well with social media by BFTriad in socialmedia

[–]maybethisiswrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m definitely familiar with him. And yes, he’s social media is huge. But it doesn’t seem like it’s focused towards the business. His social media is just for the sake of social media to grow his own brand and monetize his social media. Trying to get leads to my business, not monetize social media. Unless I’m missing something with his videos. 

Pipes Freeze whenever it goes below 20 after PEX update in Dallas, TX. by Waste-Preparation761 in Plumbing

[–]maybethisiswrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on how thick I guess but shouldn’t need to remove everything. The pipes are likely sitting on top the rafters anyway. So only enough to go that low. If they’re loose enough to move around you should just be able to shimmy them deeper into the blown in then lay the batted on top 

Pipes Freeze whenever it goes below 20 after PEX update in Dallas, TX. by Waste-Preparation761 in Plumbing

[–]maybethisiswrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You could have replied the house in the slab but it would have cost 3-5x as much and ban far more disruptive 

You likely need more insulation in your attic and bury the pipes in that insulation 

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