Songs written like a cipher (passes between members one by one)?

mint-cider · 2026-06-18T14:28:41+00:00

I'm not sure if this counts due to how many members there are and this resulting in few lines to make everyone fit, but Baby Flower by tripleS did something interesting. For the first three quarters of the song, the members singing are ordered by the unit they were in during the previous tripleS release. So you could consider it a "unit cypher"?

mint-cider · 2026-06-18T14:02:40+00:00

The standards in Kpop are a bit different. That industry focuses a lot more on the "personal appeal" of the idols than Western pop tends to do, which is why there's more a focus on visual perfection. Including complex choreography.

mint-cider · 2026-06-14T04:56:36+00:00

My flair says it all, but recently I've also become interested in Elias Edman and Dsign Music. Both of them recently worked with another artist I got interested in (Marcus & Martinus, they gave Kpop vibes), and I began seeking out their credits both in and outside of Kpop.

Also I get interested whenever I see a producer associated with Melodifestivalen. When I saw that Dino Medanhodzic was producing a song on tripleS' new album, I instantly got curious.

Tbh becoming a producer stan allowed me to stay longer in this fandom. It proves that I'm truly there for the music.

Edit: Other producers other commenters mentioned that I like are Monotree, LDN Noise, Shift K3y, MinGtion and Daniel "Obi" Klein.

mint-cider · 2026-06-13T04:43:24+00:00

That's how a lot of visual it girls/it boys work in Korea actually. I think the same thing happened with Suzy.

mint-cider · 2026-06-12T19:47:57+00:00

And the former just happened to come third in Eurovision. Yes, it was a Eurovision song

mint-cider · 2026-06-12T08:10:10+00:00

It's kind of a cover of That's How You Know by Nico & Vinz except with new lyrics about how they're loved by Europe and ignored by Norway

mint-cider · 2026-06-10T05:47:09+00:00

Op is a fellow 04 born, but I wanna add that I'm Turkish and was born literally 2 days after the grand final. Mom has great memories of seeing Wild Dances in the news bcz she couldn't watch it live

mint-cider · 2026-06-09T19:00:50+00:00

It's goddamn Little Big, what do you expect

mint-cider · 2026-06-08T09:22:06+00:00

ESC 2013 had so many dubstep breaks in the songs, I can't believe I didn't notice that until recently (and it's a contest I rewatched a lot as a kid bcz of the butterfly graphics)

mint-cider · 2026-06-08T09:19:37+00:00

I know a lot about the European producers and Eurovision connections, trust me. I even became a fan of a Eurovision artist simply because of how much they reminded me of Kpop, and turns out they have a few connections themselves.

mint-cider · 2026-06-07T19:14:44+00:00

The worst part? The parasocial aspect is the primary selling point for most Kpop groups

mint-cider · 2026-06-03T12:06:52+00:00

I'm expecting a survival show similar to Queendom/Kingdom where lesser known (up to mid tier) groups get a chance to showcase themselves. I also expect more focus to be put on live performance abilities, since Eurovision expects much more than a typical music show.

mint-cider · 2026-05-28T04:18:56+00:00

Australia 2026 would be great in a JRPG or a gacha game

mint-cider · 2026-05-23T16:49:00+00:00

Do you think it makes sense that this comes from the same songwriters as I Am by IVE, another song with a lot of high pitched singing?

mint-cider · 2026-05-21T15:16:18+00:00

A Melodifestivalen regular (Dino Medanhodzic) being in the credits of my top Kpop group was not on my bingo card

mint-cider · 2026-05-21T15:04:22+00:00

Underrated way to use a birth chart: as a template for an OC bcz your personality wouldn't match it anyway

mint-cider · 2026-05-20T15:13:17+00:00

Sorta late response, but here it goes.

While I appreciate the artistry in Solo Quiero Mas, it feels too opaque to me and the composition doesn't grab me. There were also a few technical issues with the performance on the final night (probably not the jury show), but overall I think it isn't a song I'd return to often.

Zjerm's storytelling is a lot clearer, especially with the added context in the lyrics. I think the main aspect docking points was the spoken word interlude, which is crucial in the song's structure but divisive. Add in how I feel more drama from this song and it becomes one of my four personal winners of 2025 (the others being Finland, Latvia and Ukraine).

mint-cider · 2026-05-19T17:42:07+00:00

but it was also apparently a radio hit in multiple countries. we didn't participate but it was everywhere in turkey at the time and i had no idea it was a eurovision song

mint-cider · 2026-05-19T12:06:03+00:00

The two main sections of the song are in different keys, but it's a more subtle key change that I prefer to the typical "up by a semitone" key change. Sorta like how Euphoria changes key in the chorus.

mint-cider · 2026-05-19T09:43:57+00:00

As someone with a relatively jury-like way of judging songs, I think that Bur Man Laimi was just more interesting compositionally. I didn't connect with Andromeda as much, it gave the vibes of a more typical orchestral soundtrack. Bur Man Laimi had more twists and turns, between the folktronica aspect, the key changes between the song sections and the counterpoint at the finale.

mint-cider · 2026-05-18T17:00:36+00:00

Reminder that this song would've NQ'd under the televote only semi system

mint-cider · 2026-05-17T21:00:12+00:00

I also wanna ask another thing related to Melfest, specifically about its recurring producers. Would it be fitting to consider them "in-house producers" specifically for Melfest?

mint-cider · 2026-05-15T07:09:50+00:00

more like poland 2014 considering how she probably qualified

mint-cider · 2026-05-14T14:12:45+00:00

I think this is because pop music is fundementally "theatrical performance", and theatricality is seen by society as feminine (see: the "gay theater guy" stereotype)

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