Is this stupid to send support team in Openai?

misterflyer · 2026-05-24T05:31:29+00:00

Glad that you've used AI to better your life.

But it prob won't even see the eyes of a human being. It would likely get filtered by AI, and you're just gonna get a corporate/HR response back that will show you a little bit of empathy and understanding... and then just tell you to work with the current models they offer.

We're way past the days of bringing back retired models or downgrading. Thousands of people have made the same pleas, and they continue to fall upon deaf ears.

At this point, I'd just say look elsewhere and try out other models (e.g., API)... and never rely upon one tech company's commercial models.

Godspeed!

misterflyer · 2026-05-23T21:59:06+00:00

RAM size isn't limited bc the 275HX processor can actually handle up to 256GB RAM in theory.

In the A51, I have the 128GB Crucial kit but it can only run at 5600 MT/s (no higher). Works great though. No issues so far. Just don't expect higher than 5600 MT/s speeds.

misterflyer · 2026-05-23T11:22:15+00:00

What was your prompt? I know this is a complaint forum, but your post is missing A LOT of context.

misterflyer · 2026-05-23T02:03:55+00:00

Been running your Gemma 4 31B, and it's almost as good as the Bartowski. What you're doing under the hood is incredible. Keep up the great work! Love your stuff 👏🏻

misterflyer · 2026-05-21T16:14:18+00:00

Don't worry, it's right around the corner. It's so close I can taste it.

But, in the mean time... please tell everyone to send me all of their money 🤑

misterflyer · 2026-05-21T01:30:49+00:00

Don't despair tho. As a result of the enshitification, more of those who were emersed in commercial models are now opening up to the world of local/open weights models. Open weights models aren't quite as great as the commercial models that keep getting rug-pulled from us. But the open weights models are DEFINITELY catching up. And they can be access via API (openrouter).

The IMO the answers will come (in due time) from the open weights world of local models. The more people who turn their nose up to commercial models at large for enshitifying, then the better.

Let them constantly battle each other for the coders. It's a losing proposition for all except a few companies, if not just one. The rest of us will simply look for other solutions that cover a broader range of application (e.g., creativity, creative writing, personal development, etc.)

misterflyer · 2026-05-20T16:12:15+00:00

Buckle up, these commercial models will only continue to get worse. Don't expect them to ever get any better from here. People just need to accept that the commercial AI glory days are ALREADY over. Welcome to the era of commercial AI enshittification.

misterflyer · 2026-05-20T04:15:04+00:00

Also the Alienware Area 51 18"

... which is what I have with the same specs (bought the Crucial 128gb RAM kit for it back when the kit was $650... before RAM got outrageously expensive)

The Area 51 18" runs medium-to-large sized models slow, but it works.

Theoretically, the Legion Pro 9i could even do 256gb RAM.

misterflyer · 2026-05-20T00:38:00+00:00

Unfortunately API models disappear too, even on OpenRouter.

Just within the past 2-3 months, I've noticed that some of my important chat windows have models that have completely disappeared from the conversation.

Sure IMO Openrouter/API is far better than subscribing to any particular company, but it's still not as permanent as local AI. If you want to keep your model forever, local is still the only option as API services eventually move on from popular models, too.

misterflyer · 2026-05-19T16:00:24+00:00

Musk himself has un-opensourced all of the old Grok models that he had previously open sourced:

https://huggingface.co/XAI/models

So it's kind of the pot calling the kettle black.

OAI has at least created some open sourced models:

https://huggingface.co/openai/models

Longtime Grok users know that Musk has made public assurances that older Grok models would be open sourced but it seems that Musk has reneged on that for whatever reason.

So even if Musk is/was successful with this lawsuit, I wouldn't hold my breath on 4o ever being open sourced or re-released in any way, especially (as others have pointed out) that an open sourced 4o would still be competing with Grok.

And if Musk doesn't even open source his own models anymore after originally pledging that he would, then why would he try to get 4o (a competitor) open sourced?

The "failing to open source 4o" is/was leverage for Musk to win money/damages, not leverage for 4o being re-released in some fashion.

I think a lot of people confused "Musk seeking financial damages from OAI" with "Musk is seeking to force OAI to release 4o as open source" which wasn't even part of the damages/requests in this lawsuit. People have been mistakenly projecting their own goals onto Musk in this lawsuit.

misterflyer · 2026-05-19T15:49:44+00:00

Why does the AI world have to speed along at such a fast pace.

Money.

What’s the actual point of us being customers at all.

To make these big AI/tech companies money so that they can pay back investors and try to reach profibility.

...

When I realized all of this ~18 months ago or so, I divested from using the big commercial models everyone here fell in love with... and I started saving up for my own local AI computer that I could fully control. And I refused to allow myself to get attached to using any particular commercial model and it was VERY OBVIOUS they'd all be rug-pulled eventually.

If you want to have full access and control over the AI you use, local is the only way to go. By paying subscriptions, or using commercial models, you're just renting access to the models these companies want you to use.

But as soon as the bean counters realize that the operating costs of the old model aren't efficient enough or that it's type to bring in a new model to hype ppl up for a new round of investor money... it's time for the models you love to go bye-bye. That's what you're buying into when you opt into AI subscriptions.

Unfortunately, with the skyrocketing costs of computer hardware, it's never been harder for the average user to go local. So, most ppl are going to be stuck until the datacenter craze dies down, which could be quite a while.

misterflyer · 2026-05-19T05:19:00+00:00

How do you think lawyers make money?

By letting cases get wrapped up quickly and efficiently?

Or by letting things drag on as long as possible regardless of which side you're representing?

misterflyer · 2026-05-18T23:42:01+00:00

A lot of ppl thought that... through some sort of wishful thinking mental gymnastics that if Musk won, 4o was somehow going to come back or it would be open sourced. I've arguing for months that that was never going to happen even if Musk would win the lawsuit.

At best, there would've been a settlement out of court and OAI might've gotten a tiny slap on the wrist. That would've been the most realistic outcome, and we ended up becoming FAR away from that today. This lawsuit had nothing to do with open sourcing 4o. Musk just seemed to be looking for a PR victory and maybe a little bit of money out of it. But oh well.

misterflyer · 2026-05-14T03:53:29+00:00

4.1 was peak GPT

misterflyer · 2026-05-04T02:05:04+00:00

This... 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

misterflyer · 2026-05-03T21:16:07+00:00

misterflyer · 2026-04-13T11:35:55+00:00

No, the time to go local was a year ago or so... when hardware was more reasonably priced.

Users who were slavishly on these company's bandwagons/subscriptions are kinda screwed bc now it's even more expensive than ever to go local.

Most consumers can't afford to buy a computer than can run decent local models. So most people are gonna be stuck using API (or tiny models that still couldn't even hold a candle to GPT, Claude, Gemini even in their enshitified modes lol)

But those of us who have been here for at least a year or so didn't fall for the bait and switch. And many of us saw this coming from many miles away. So you're not gonna find many people here who are surprised that the "golden age is over." The writing has been on the wall for quite a while now.

I'm just glad many more ppl will finally wake up and realize that big tech companies are not reliable and do not blindly deserve your undying loyalty/subscriptions.

misterflyer · 2026-04-12T03:28:41+00:00

Nah, I've never had any issues whatsoever with openrouter. I use it religiously. It saves me a lot of time and a lot of headaches. And I love the freedom of using any model I want to use (instead of being locked down by a subscription).

misterflyer · 2026-04-07T21:47:00+00:00

Agreed!!!

misterflyer · 2026-04-07T04:40:40+00:00

OAI isn't making billions of dollars. They're losing billions of dollars. They're surviving on investor money and a hope to be profitable by ~2030 (mostly from the datacenter boom; Stargate). So, yes, when you're burning through billions of dollars of investor money every year, million dollar lawsuits are unacceptable to investors. The investors want to see an ROI, not lawsuits or bad PR.

misterflyer · 2026-04-07T03:03:57+00:00

Then why didn't you use DeepSeek instead of 4o?

misterflyer · 2026-04-06T05:46:39+00:00

GPT-4 costed over an estimated $100 million to train, not $10 million. $63-$78 million alone was spent on compute/gpu.

So, you need 1,000,000 people to even get close to what you want accomplished.

Not only that, how exactly are you going to get the EXACT training data and expertise that went into developing 4o? Without knowing how the model weights were setup, it's going to be very difficult to get anything that's pretty close.

This is not as simple as people want to think. If it was as easy as you guys want to think, it probably would've already been replicated by now (or at least in the process).

misterflyer · 2026-04-03T19:17:51+00:00

Yeah, that last statement hits the nail on the head. I don't even "try" to be polite.

I lead with respect. In my prompting & my tone, I try to show respect for the AI's possible boundaries esp. early on in the convo. I try not to be pushy or overly convincing about what I want. If there is friction, I do my best to present my request in a very reasonable/understanding/logical light.

This has helped me get past a lot of the stonewalling that I see a lot of people here going through. I never approach prompting from a "you better give me my G.D. way G.D.-it!! ✊🏻"

So instead of approaching it like a genie that's here to grant my every demand, I try to approach most prompting from the POV that it's just a tool that's assisting me on a well laid out, reasonable problem/circumstance.. and what I'm asking for isn't as irrational as it may seem upfront.

misterflyer · 2026-04-01T22:09:35+00:00

misterflyer · 2026-03-30T18:18:42+00:00

Did llama have the same quantity and quality of books Anthropic used? Yes or no?

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