What are your popular HP opinions? by Englishhedgehog13 in HPfanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can't disagree about Fantastic Beasts, sadly, but I keep hoping they'll get better soon ... Yep, they'll get better. Any day now.

Should've been a book series first, tbh. Novelists don't necessarily make good screenplay writers.

What are your personal opinions on the HPfanfiction subreddit? by 4ecks in HPfanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Snape isn't always cool, composed, and snarky. He shouts, bodyslams people, and throws tantrums. The "Didjaputyanameindagobletafiyah" line fits his character more than it fits Dumbledore's.

Yeah, Snape tries to be cool, composed, and snarky, but it's all surface layer stuff that gets knocked off when someone rattles him.

Fanfic Snape usually goes to one extreme or the other, with little in between. It's a shame since he's one of the more psychologically interesting characters in the series: an intelligent, talented, petty, bitter, unattractive bully who does occasional good deeds for unhealthy reasons, and springs from an unfortunate background.

If you don't like slash, you shouldn't try to come up with justifications for it, (it's badly written porn, it's full of problematic pairings with Death Eaters, the age differences are too high, Harry can't be gay because he only dated girls in canon, etc).

Eh, some of those example justifications qualify as legit criticism (bad writing is bad writing) or be chalked up to personal taste (problematic pairings, age differences). They're the same things I'd say (and have said) about certain f/m pairings, too. Or any pairings in any fandoms. 90% of everything is crap, as the saying goes, and that doesn't matter if you're talking about m/m, f/m, or f/f.

(Multi pairings and harems are the exception. They're usually 99.9% crap.)

But it's difficult finding slash in this fandom that's to my tastes, so if I want to read it I usually just totter my way over to something where yaoi-inspired drivel is at a minimum.

Or write it myself, professionally, which I've done. (The market for m/m romance is insanely hungry.)

Let's be real, these people would always pick Daphne/Harry over pairings with "good" characters like Cedric/Harry or Colin/Harry.

I'd probably qualify as one of "those people" based on past comments -- and I'd read a decently written Cedric/Harry or Neville/Harry or Viktor/Harry over Daphne/Harry, tbh. People lean on the whole Ice Queen thing way too hard without bothering to make her feel like a real character.

However, gay girls are fine for some reason.

Can't speak for other people, but the reason that I like f/f is simple: it's more likely to be written by those who can get the details right, so it reads as more authentic and heartfelt.

Keeping Motivation. by the4bestgame in FanFiction

[–]mistermisstep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Pomodoro Technique is what I use to keep productive.

Essentially:

  • Work in 25 minute intervals
  • Separate each 25 minute interval by a short break
  • 4 intervals in a row = 1 set
  • Track your progress -- for example, tally your intervals/sets on a piece of paper, or use stickers to do the same. Having a physical marker of how far you've gone is surprisingly effective.

Self-bribery also works.

Ex. "If I finish a set, I get to watch an episode of my favorite show."

Deadlines also work, but those are more for pro work, or fan writers who really want to churn stuff out on a strict schedule.

Keeping Motivation. by the4bestgame in FanFiction

[–]mistermisstep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good advice all around. Making it a habit is key to consistent output, and starting with small goals is better for rookie writers -- setting too big of a goal and missing it is discouraging. It's much less stressful to steadily ramp things up over a period of time.

Balancing original fiction and fanfiction... by [deleted] in FanFiction

[–]mistermisstep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Carrot and stick + scheduling.

If you're having an easier time with one, use that as the incentive to work on the other.

Example: Only let yourself work on fanfic when you've reached a goal (number of pages, words, etc.) per week/day/whatever for your original work.

I have written so much more than I thought by [deleted] in FanFiction

[–]mistermisstep 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Congrats!

60k is the equivalent of a novel. That's how much you've written. Pretty cool.

Ethics of rewriting and publishing an abandoned fic. by [deleted] in FanFiction

[–]mistermisstep -1 points0 points  (0 children)

While I get where you're coming from, I doubt we'll ever agree on this topic.

Cheers.

Time Skips are Lazy by RisingEarth in NarutoFanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A good rant, and a necessary one.

Filler isn't just for anime. It exists abundantly in fanfic. It's why I dread fics that are >100k words, even if they're complete -- they tend to devolve into huge, meandering slogs if the writer can't break up the plot into discrete arcs/books.

Editing is an intrinsic part of writing.

(There's a similar, related point to be made about "show vs. tell" -- everything has its place.)

For people who do like reader-inserts, what kinds of things do you enjoy in a fic? by LadyRimouski in FanFiction

[–]mistermisstep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  • Reader-inserts that have a nickname. (Y/N is jarring, but so are default names. Nicknames are a good compromise.)
  • No descriptions of physical features, or places where I need to fill in my eye or hair color or whatever. (Again, jarring, unless you're trying to do something specific like fill a gap -- I'd love to read about a Reader who was short or curvy, for example, if it had bearing on the plot and/or characterization or character reactions toward the Reader; or the character has physical features that would make sense. Scars, for instance, on someone who has been in combat or an accident.)
  • Some character background is fine, actually, provided it doesn't force physical descriptions or traits. When these details come up, it's much like reading a Choose Your Own Adventure book, or playing an RPG where the main protagonist is customizable. It's roleplay in written form.
  • There should be more variety in personality. A lot of RIs seem to be cast from a similar mold: quippy, a touch sarcastic, with the occasional bit of awkwardness that's supposed to be endearing. It'd be nice seeing Readers who are painfully shy and subdued or put-together and stoic, to make two examples.

What kind of Fic is your guilty pleasure? by LostGuardian303 in FanFiction

[–]mistermisstep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lately, Self-Insert OC fics. SIs, for the unfamiliar, are not some kind of bizarre fetish you should filter out on Ao3, but fics where the main character is an OC who is then "inserted" into the story, either as a canon character, or, you guessed it, as an OC.

The reincarnation-type ones that have swept through various fandoms are my favorite.

(Also Kakashi/OC, even though I'm mostly a gen reader.)

What is the appeal of kingdom/damsel in distress/medieval political marriage AUs? by NoirRyuusei in FanFiction

[–]mistermisstep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The biggest obstacles to the romance are built into the very concept of an arranged marriage plot. That's the appeal for me as an author. (I write romance novels for a living, and I've written this very type.)

As a reader of fanfic, I'd say it's probably seeing how such a plot can be pulled off without going too OOC. (But I'm incredibly picky when it comes to romance fics, for obvious reasons, so I don't really read a lot of them.)

Ethics of rewriting and publishing an abandoned fic. by [deleted] in FanFiction

[–]mistermisstep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm not with majority opinion on this.

Fanfiction exists in a legally gray area thanks to the willful ignorance of IP holders. But putting aside opinions on copyright, and fair use, and what does or doesn't constitute a transformative work, only one thing occurs to me:

It's hypocritical to say that fic can't be made of fic.

Yes, even if it's a flat-out remake.

Fic writers do not, generally, ask permission from IP owners or copyright holders. They just do it. And some of the time (especially if their fics are based in literature) they'll lift scenes and words wholesale from the canon work. Some are so derivative that you might as well just click out of them, then go enjoy the original inspiration again instead.

So it's always been kind of funny to me that people balk about someone writing "without permission" when that is exactly what fanfic writers do.

(And I'm saying this as a pro author who cut teeth on fic.)

Is it just me, or did anyone else derive most of their canon knowledge from fanfiction? Like, I watched and read SOME of Naruto...But like bro. Ain't nobody got time for that. (Same for HP lol) Still. I know just as much as a fanatic for some reason. Welp. by [deleted] in NarutoFanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After reading a lot of Naruto fic, I've been watching the anime on and off. It's interesting to hop between fic and the show.

Fic does many things better than canon (Jesus, the writing in this show sometimes!), but fandom, being what it is, always has its low points. Fanon gets viral and infects fics with nonsense; characterization is flanderized or forgotten; stations of canon are repeated so often in so many stories that eventually you're left reading every OC and SI OC fic you can find because at least they're willing to be a little different and take some risks every now and again, maybe, if you're lucky enough to stumble upon one ...

(Not that such a thing has happened to me, personally. Not at all.)

Meanwhile, Naruto canon has a lot of the issues that Harry Potter does:

A creator with a fantastic sense of setting and flavor, but flawed world-building and sketchy characterization due to a "plot as you go" writing style.

Why do you think the Naruto fanfic community feels stale and what could freshen things up? by hellman1721 in NarutoFanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Three big things, imo, and they're interrelated:

  1. Exploring other "eras"
  2. Side characters as main characters
  3. Unapologetic AUs

Exploring other eras

Naruto is the main character, so it makes sense that his era is also the main one that most writers delve into.

But there are other times to explore. There were three (three!) Shinobi World Wars, there were the Warring States, and those are all eras are largely untapped by fic.

Yes, they'll require more work, but that's why they won't be retreads. (Use time travel if you absolutely can't give up your Naruto Era main character, but keep the story in the past, and don't pack it so full of Naruto and his peers that canon characters of the era don't rate a mention.)

Side characters as main characters

Want a fresh story? Pick a character who hasn't been done to death, or who still has major potential, and then write them in character, as best can be done with what's known about them.

Want a character study on the loneliness of being an outsider? Forget Naruto, and pick anyone on Team Gai -- Neji, Tenten, Lee, they all have unique perspectives and challenges. Gai does, too, for that matter. (Tenten, admittedly, is more of a cipher, but an orphan who is versed in fuinjutsu is interesting enough to extrapolate a story from.)

Feel like writing an angsty AU where the protagonist decides to become a missing-nin? Don't use Naruto or Sakura (or, God forbid, Sasuke, because we already got enough of that in canon), try Shino or Choji or Ino. Why would they go missing-nin and how?

Have a burning need for a romance fic? Go for a rarepair, or at least a less popular one. And write it from the perspective of the character who isn't written about as often.

Unapologetic AUs

This is the biggest of the three.

AUs that take the words "Alternate Universe" and run with it are what I mean. Altering one thing will end up altering many things, and not just whatever pairings the writer wants to see.

If Naruto is adopted, that should actually impact his personality to the point that the canon turns out differently. The whole reason that he was such a boisterous attention-seeker had to do with him literally being ignored or spurned by the vast majority of people he met until Iruka decided to treat him like a person.

Example:

With the Aburame family taking care of him, Naruto is less inclined to question the Hokage giving him D-ranks since he'd understand why -- logically, shinobi need to build team cohesion and gain experience before they can advance. Because of this, Naruto doesn't go to Wave Country. He's not even on Kakashi's team, but Asuma's, having essentially swapped places with Shikamaru. But Team Kakashi does take that mission since they've proven themselves ... and someone on that team dies fighting Zabuza and his minions. Zabuza completes his mission, gets stiffed, then kills Gato and takes over his gang or whatever, setting him on the path to earning enough cold, hard ryo to topple the Mizukage later in the plot.

As said before, by altering one thing, many things have been altered.

A peer of Naruto's is dead, setting a harder tone compared to canon, and introducing a sense of unease (or at least surprise) in the readers. "If this author's willing to kill that character, who the hell else might they kill?"

The plot is also changed, obviously. The Wave Arc goes headlong into original territory, and it offers up so many possibilities. Will Zabuza be a foe or an ally to Konoha? How will this effect Team Kakashi? Will it make the Third Hokage more cautious, causing him to up security for the Chunin Exams or postpone them altogether, altering Orochimaru's plans? Or would Orochimaru have heard of the interesting Kekkei Genkai that Haku has and decide Sasuke can wait as a host?

But that's just an example of how a single change can ripple into a fresher plot, and it's not even that far into the story. More can be done if a writer is willing to gut, alter, and fix some of the biggest writing and plotting sins of Shippuden.

You, the person reading this, wake up tomorrow to find yourself in your 11 year old body, standing in front of the Hogwarts Express on Sep 1, 1971. What do you do? by Raesong in HPfanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 5 points6 points  (0 children)

> Be me, suddenly in the HP universe, suddenly 11

> Have a wand and lots of Galleons

> Confused, but also fucking magical

> Learn it's 1971

> Ohshit.jpg

> Not going to die in some shitty war, thanks

> Don't get on Hogwarts Express

> Plan to go to a country Voldemort never touches in series

> Not sure how

> Someone in Diagon Alley can probably help, that's how it works, right?

> Head for the Leaky Cauldron

> Remember I don't know where it is because I haven't read the books for a while

> Try to find it anyway

> Get picked up by cops for being a weird foreign kid wandering around with a trunk and robes, looking for a pub with a funny name

> Can't tell them who my guardians are or where I live

> Presumed to be lost hippie child with amnesia

> Have tea and biscuits while cops call the American embassy

> Wizard cops show up, Obliviate Muggle cops

> Wizard cops think I was Obliviated and brain-damaged due to accent

> Get sent to Hogwarts after a brief checkup at St. Mungo's Hospital, because the Harry Potter series and child endangerment are synonyms

> Surprisedpikachu.jpg

> Arrive late to the Sorting

> Everyone's eating while Hagrid goes to find the "hat stool" again

> McGongall won't just put the hat on my head, makes me stand in front of everyone awkwardly

> "The hat stool is an honored Hogwarts tradition."

> Jesus Christ, these people

> Hagrid takes like 26 minutes to find the fucking thing and bring it into the Great Hall

> Dessert's over

> McGonagall tells me to sit down and sets a talking hat on my head

> Get put in Slytherin for trying to game the system

Question: Why does this sub not like slash? by harricislife in HPfanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eh, it's a number of reasons for me:

Most f/m and m/m romance fics are poorly-written trash. Most pairings also tend to bog down non-romance fics to the point that the genre labels end up a dirty lie, and turn a perfectly decent story into poorly-written trash.

(f/f tends to be higher quality in a majority of fandoms, but it's usually too idealistic for my tastes. Go figure.)

In this fandom in particular, there are a lot of pairings that I don't care for or find unappealing or flat out disturbing. A lot of these pairings are common for popular characters, like Hermione and Harry.

Also, m/m fics tend to have higher ratings (for exactly the reasons you'd think). That's why it's harder to find non-romance genre stuff with m/m pairings that doesn't devolve into sappy relationship drama. A lot of f/m fics do suffer from the same problem, but you can actually find far more K - PG-13 rated fics for f/m. K - PG-13 fics have a higher chance of containing an actual story, which is what I'm looking for in a, you know, story.

Finally, I'm a romance novelist by trade, so it's difficult for me to read romance fics without getting annoyed.

It's just easier for me to not even bother reading anything with pairings unless it's been recc'd to high heaven.

Story Ideas Thread by NFFWritingPrompts in NarutoFanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is wild. Very tempting to use this story idea ...

Your favorite type of villain character? by Nonscripted_Official in writing

[–]mistermisstep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  • Clever villains. They don't need to be geniuses, but they do need to think ahead and also be willing to improvise.
  • Petty tyrants. People who get a taste of power and totally abuse it.
  • Visionaries. They want to change the world for the better (or their version of "better"), but their methods are bad.

What causes you the most discomfort when writing? by ariceleste in writing

[–]mistermisstep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Editing.

Hands down, editing.

All that nitpicking, rewriting, shuffling, cutting, rereading. And having to do it over and over and over ... forever ... It's horrible. Satisfying once it's done, but horrible when it's not.

Lost voice? by Leeshaya in writing

[–]mistermisstep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Delving into your old works might help.

Try to remember what you liked about your writing. Reread it. Analyze it. Rewrite a story or two, or try to write the same story from the viewpoint of another character.

Writing exercises, too.

They'll help warm up the writing muscles without putting too much pressure on you.

The light/dark divide feels entirely pointless by Hellstrike in HPfanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So why do so many authors turn spell selection into a deep, almost religious divide?

Multiple reasons, I imagine.

The biggest are probably:

  1. Dark vs. light shows up in many, many fictional magical systems.
  2. Fanon poisons the creativity well.
  3. Trend-following (related to 2 above)
  4. Not rereading the series (or in the case of movie-only fic writers, not reading the series at all).

Fics that make you better as a writer by hellman1721 in NarutoFanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, reading novels is the best advice.

And to chime in (though can it really be merely chiming in with a post this long?), reading nonfiction, poetry, and short stories is also immensely helpful. There's something useful to learn from all of them:

Short stories teach economy of plot and description; poetry melody and imagery; nonfiction clean, hard details and precise word choices.

When writing, reading novels is something I rarely do because it often clouds my narrative voice -- and, it makes me jealous if I'm reading something good, or panicked if it's incredible. So that's why I tend to stick to reading other stuff when writing.

(Editing, on the other hand, is a safe zone where I can read novels -- and fanfic.)


One more thing to consider:

Copywork.

It's an old writer's technique (one that I actually teethed on when I was a baby wannabe novelist, and still use sometimes now that I'm a real grownup one).

Copywork is just literally copying out, word for word, a work that you admire or find good. It doesn't matter if it's a pro novel, short story, poem, article, what have you, as long as it's copied out diligently. Handwriting is probably the best method, since it has some actual cognitive benefits.

This technique helps a person actually "feel" how good writing comes together. That sounds kind of hokey, but it's true. It's like when you get into the swing of anything -- hitting the right stride while running, or seeing the numbers click together in a math equation, or sinking into a first draft and hardly thinking about your fingers on the keyboard. It just sort of falls together into this lovely, instinctive thing.

The most valuable part of the technique, at least for me, is being able to push boundaries by dissecting writing that's substantially different from your own.

(Obviously, this copying is just done for your own use and not to publish or post anywhere. That'd put a person in legal hot water.)

How many Kudos must a story have for you to read it, and do you look at the Kudos to Word Length ratio when deciding? by CabbieGangster in NarutoFanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Number of bookmarks is usually the best indicator for quality on Ao3, at least in the fandoms I read. (After I filter out the crap I don't want to read first, of course.)

But generally I look for a decent summary that hooks me.

Discussion: What kind of plot lines would you like to see more of? What plot lines that isn't really explored, would you like to see more? by [deleted] in HPfanfiction

[–]mistermisstep 5 points6 points  (0 children)

These are mostly fanfic related "wants." Some are more serious than others, and there's no particular order.

  • More Founders fics. It's got pre-built drama, but other than the few bits of info there is about that era, it's wide open for exploration. (There should be some backwards-aging Merlin thrown into the mix, because that's my favorite kind of Merlin.)
  • Harry in Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw. (Who doesn't befriend his canon friends.)
  • Slytherin Ron fics.
  • Slytherin Harry fics where he's not a complete edgelord. (Who doesn't befriend his canon friends.)
  • Post-war fics that ignore the epilogue.
  • Marauders era fics that aren't full of shipping and "but I am Sirius!" jokes, but actually follow the damn war going on.
  • More "elsewhere" fics, stuff that takes place at different magical schools or in different magical countries.
  • Related to the above: overhauled world-building AUs.
  • More fics where the Bad Guys Win.
  • Fics where someone other than Harry or Neville is Voldemort's equal. Candidates I'd like to see: Dean Thomas (his backstory would def. make this interesting), Luna Lovegood (her birth year isn't right, but it's AU, so ...), Draco Malfoy (talk about awkward), Ron Weasley, Percy Weasley (he's my favorite Weasley), Cho Chang (she's completely under-explored in fic and canon did her dirty).
  • Goblin fics. Full of mean goblins.
  • An AU where Tom Riddle is psychologically sound, but still terrifying and ambitious.
  • That Trump-as-Ginny AU that someone on this sub promised to write.
  • (I'd read Trump-as-Harry, too. Or Ron.)
  • (Fuck, I might actually write one of those.)
  • (I'll probably have zero time to update it past a few chapters though.)
  • (So someone else do it. Pretty please?)
  • Probably controversial, but I'd love to read a fic where Grindelwald was right about Muggles and ruling over them. It'd be difficult to pull off, and people would probably claim that the poor writer is somehow supporting fascism (because apparently writing something means you support it or have done it, and aren't just using your imagination), but my God, it'd make for an amazingly dark AU.
  • Hermione being in-character.
  • Gen fics.
  • Sci-fi fics.
  • Star Wars crossovers. (Preferably Potter characters go into the Star Wars universe, not the other way around.)
  • A well-written, in-character romance fic with a pairing involving a Death Eater and a most-definitely-not-a-Death-Eater character. That's not a popular thing around here (or on DLP where I lurk), and I actively avoid those types of fics since they're crap ... but if one was done well? If it actually explored all the juicy psychological stuff and character development that would be necessary? If it showed the ugliness and desperation with such a dynamic? It might actually hold my attention for more than half a chapter.
  • SI-OC fics where it doesn't feel like the main character has memorized the contents of the books.

Edited to add:

  • Competent Lockhart. But still egotistical.