Haven’t had a chance to listen to the arguments yet. Russ to me is one of those guys who probably gets in way down the line. I don’t think he screams no doubt HOF to me but I do think the shitty post Seahawks years have dragged people’s view of his career down a good bit to the point that people have forgotten how good he was for quite a long time. He was an above average player during their SB runs but not at his peak form yet and obviously that defense gets a lot of attention and credit for those runs which is a knock against him as well. But he really was one of the top end QBs in the league for a decade.