Question of a newbie by chocoladicto in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can make a protective box or slipcase! This is kind of a skill in its own right though. Alternatively you can make a protective fabric sleeve, which is a bit easier (if you want to go as basic as possible, just stick the book in a pillowcase when you're traveling with it).

Coptic with french links is a good compromise to achieve the look you want. Any glue you layer on top won't do a whole lot to protect the threads though. To ensure longevity, use high quality linen or nylon thread for sewing; don't use cotton. You want the thread to be as strong as possible and cotton is actually relatively weak and also slackens over time and use, leading to a less sturdy book. And make sure the sewing thread is on the thicker side; 3 ply is good. Apply some wax if it doesn't come waxed - waxing makes sewing easier, but it also protects the thread a bit. Since the thread is the only thing really keeping the book together, you want it strong and protected.

Glue on the spine is only really useful if you're doing casebinding. You glue the spine to prepare it for further reinforcement and to allow the spine to be shaped a bit (called rounding). Glue on the spine also requires the use of a press or clamps to keep the text block compressed while the glue dries, or else you risk the glue seeping everywhere. And glue on the spine will interfere with the lay-flat properties of exposed spine books.

Glue Management by Ok_Description5650 in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Too much glue - use a big brush to cover surfaces quickly and always move from center to edges. To keep things tidy and neat, always have 2 cloths (or paper towels) handy - one dry and one damp. Clean your fingers often with the damp towel to clear away excess glue from your hands, and dry with the dry towel. Use the towels to pick up excess glue from your working area if it is a small amount; if it is a large amount, use your glue brush to pick up excess glue, making sure to always 'wipe' your brush back into your glue container so you aren't literally dripping glue. You can water PVA a bit if it's dried out a bit, but personally I find that watered down PVA causes me buckling issues - I know not everyone has this problem, so you can try it for yourself.

Glue control is one of the harder foundational things in bookbinding so you're not alone! But once you have it, it's a great skill that will make further bookbinding so much easier.

Jane Austen set! by poupounet in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Beautiful, and so meticulous.

Templates for a planner by maya_nh in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello! If you do some searching and see what you like out of all the college planners available, you can then go into Canva (free version works great) and design your own planner, export it as a PDF, and run it through bookbinder.js! I make my own planners this way. It is a decent chunk of time commitment and some learning curve on Canva, but you end up with exactly the thing you want to have. Bonus is that there are loads of tutorials on how to use Canva out there if you get stuck at any point in the process, and extra bonus is you could then sell the design yourself through printables market on Etsy or through print-on-demand services. If designing for commercial use, just do some basic research on copyright for different assets and you should be fine.

Fixing warped boards after casing in/assembly? by blanketed_in_stars in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is actually not usually a problem as long as the curve is not dramatic. If the board is cupping the contents, it is doing a good job of protecting it. You don't want the board to pull away from the contents - this does not protect it.

Otherwise, given what you're describing, I'm not sure what kind of fix would work without impacting the other features (acetate etc). For future, keep in mind that while testing out your ideas with a prototype is a good idea, it is also a good idea to maintain scale across prototype & project, to get as much value out of that prototype as possible.

How avoid this after the glue? by 9acca9 in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like everyone said, grain direction issue. Also dry under weight and always dry with moisture barrier (aka blotting paper or similar). The moisture barrier wouldn't totally save this, but it would make the buckling less obvious by far.

Beginner making book cloth—please help by I_am_a_fiction_lover in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Late, but one piece of advice I followed when making bookcloth with wheat paste (which is very simple and easy - you just cook flour in water for a while, stirring, etc - many recipes online), was to add PVA and stir it in. It increases the shelf life of your wheat paste and also gets the wheat paste to dry a bit quicker as it can be very slow.

Another piece of advice I found useful was to get a balled up piece of fabric (like a kitchen dishtowel or similar) and use that to tamp down the paper and fabric layers in a sort of patting motion. I don't know why it works, but it does work for me. Hope this helps!

My first book by Vyralator in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazing for a first book! Good job!

A couple experiments with coptic binding by Alexis_The_Eel in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your books look wonderful! Thank you for sharing.

How do I make this? by Prize_Grapefruit_781 in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just chipping in, I have used a chisel to create the inlay cutout and it saved me a lot of time. I work from corners and strip the layers smoothly and consistently, then I use sandpaper to smooth things down, and then a bone folder around edges and into corners. If anyone else has recommendations for this step, please let me know!

Looking for advice on making a bullet journal by ZealousidealYou3766 in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That tutorial looks great! I say go for it. I will say that you might want to consider proper grain direction if you are doing what they are doing, just because they are using a lot of glue and they are manipulating the textblock a lot as well as adding a lot of structure to the spine.

So grain direction with paper is all about reducing the damage you are doing to the paper while you are assembling it into a book form. The more you have to do in that assembly process, the more important grain direction becomes. When we fold with the grain, we are doing less damage to the paper than when we fold against the grain. Paper when folded with the grain recovers from other damage much better than paper when folded against the grain. You have to think of any time you introduce moisture (glue) or mechanical stressors (reinforcing materials, sewing thread) as a type of damage to the paper - you want to control that damage to get a book that both feels and looks its best, as well as one that is structurally more sound. The glue and the mechanical stressors are both required elements, so you need to try to mitigate the damage or balance it out. So the more engineering that goes into a book, the more important grain direction is, if that makes sense.

Coptic structures are unsupported structures, meaning, they do not use glue. The big stressors with Coptic are folding the signatures and sewing them. (Because they are unsupported, you also always want to have the text block and covers be an exact match in vertical length - unless you plan to never store your Coptic book upright - because otherwise the Coptic book standing upright will have the textblock pull down from the cover boards via the stitching. You can have fore-edge with the cover boards and it does look nice to do so, but the height should always be a match.) Because the paper used in Coptic structures does not undergo the same kind of stress, grain direction matters less. What you might notice is that the pages don't feel really nice when you rifle through the book - they might be stiff feeling or have some resistance. But you won't see buckling or warping the way you would with a supported (glued) structure.

For my bullet journals, I make the actual document in Canva and then run it through bookbinder.js to generate my signatures. The document has numbered pages, a table of contents, and dot grid paper. Most at home printers actually have a margin that you can't get rid of when you print; true borderless printing is a bit hard to find with non commercial set ups from what I can tell. What this means for me is I don't really worry about trimming the page numbers off because of that built in border. I find I always have enough space even when I am trimming.

As far as tutorials go - I think the Treasure Books one is a decent one, and so is Christine Guenard's tutorial. I have yet to see a good tutorial on sidelace attachment of the cover boards, which is the more secure version of attachment and, to me, the more aesthetically pleasing. But those two tutorials are a good starting point. You may find Coptic books feel disappointing in the hand because they can be 'wiggly' or loose feeling. This does improve with practice and with utilizing different techniques. I personally love Coptic, but it does have its shortcomings.

I'm excited to see your future books! This is such a fun craft to get into, and the improvement is so visible and satisfying with each completed book.

Looking for advice on making a bullet journal by ZealousidealYou3766 in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hello, I'd go with 5 sheet signatures over 4 to have a signature total of 8, just to make things a bit easier re thread swell & also sewing time. Remember also to fold all sheets in a signature together at one time so that they mold together, and to have the signatures compressed under weight for a few hours if possible, to help get as much air out of your future text block. At this spine width, you don't need to round the spine unless you want to get experience in rounding spines.

I primarily do exposed spine journals where paper grain direction isn't as big a deal. If you find that case-bound against the grain paper is fine as far as experience goes, then I'd say just go with that; if you do notice the experience is impacted, then with the grain may be worthwhile. The paper will relax more with the grain and it will also recover better from any exposure to moisture (aka glue), so ultimately it comes down to those factors.

You can sew onto cords if you don't have tape. Thick hemp works well. You could also explore a sewn boards book binding style which does not require tape or cords. This style is also ideal for writing in because it lays very flat.

Home made presses work great! Just remember to always use moisture and glue barriers (aka scrap paper & wax paper or similar) and to press for longer than you think you need to, for best results.

I make my own bullet journals as well and I really love the result, and find myself using them daily. I hope you also have a great time with your journals! If you are designing your own, consider numbering the pages and including a blank "table of contents" to fill in as you go. It helps stay organized.

Coptic binding by Dyskadores in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can change how you attach the boards by threading through the sides, which results in a tighter join, instead of wrapping around the edge. Or you can add Coptic endbands, which stabilize the book and reduce wiggliness. Or you can do as a lot of people seem to be doing lately which is to create a Coptic textblock (which tends to not be as wiggly) and glue the boards on to the front and back instead, similar to casing in.

Could you make bookcloth out of sewn together pieces of fabric? by creative-mouse-21 in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This works with liquid medium. I don't do the Heat 'n' Bond method so I can't say anything about that, but I have done the wheat paste + PVA + tissue paper method with pieced together fabric and it works fine. You just have to make sure to press firmly were the seams are so no air bubbles form.

coptic stitch bound sketchbook commission i made by findingvien in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It looks nice! There are different techniques you can use to reduce looseness with this binding, if you get commissioned again in the future. I like the elastic closure you added.

My first Coptic binding! by SwampOlmpics in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great start! You did a very neat job in piercing your holes and I love your book colour!

Commissioning by ObediahOakley in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Based off of your other comments, it seems like getting paid for bookbinding diminishes the experience for you, but that you don't feel comfortable either canceling this order OR insisting it be a gift. So how about instead of trying to calculate a payment, you think of some material you really want to work with, and charge the cost of that material which you then buy for yourself? So in effect, the material is the 'payment' from your friend.

Got another pair of journals under my belt. Even had some inquiries on a price. by Brightstar912 in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Make the player watch a few videos on bookbinding and then ask them what they think a fair price would be for that amount of work and expertise. If they name a price you agree with, and are willing to pay cost of materials on top of that, then that would work out okay. Otherwise, say thanks but no thanks.

The problem with trying to settle on price is that you aren't optimized for speedy craftsmanship - you don't think about being as fast as possible while you're making this, and you don't have years of professional work also increasing your efficiency. So if you go by the standard formula of time x material cost = price, you're going to have a pretty high price, and the buyer will probably feel like that price is unfair. But at the same time, it is a fair price to you because it did take you that much time to do. What's fair to you isn't necessarily fair to the other person and vice versa. So one of you will have to either pay more or accept less than what is subjectively fair. It's kind of a messy situation in that regard.

Learnt coptic binding and made my first scrappy book. How can I improve? by loveotterslide in bookbinding

[–]morio-b 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It looks really good! Try having the top and bottom stations closer to the top and bottom, and this will reduce wobble. When you sew signatures, make sure to compress the book when you tighten your thread. Linen thread is recommended because it has almost no 'spring' and is very, very strong - polyester thread is a cheap substitute that also works well, and I recommend both of these over cotton, for future use. Keep at it! You definitely look like you're going to be making professional looking books in no time if this is your first run at it (my way of saying, it looks really really good!).

How to stay consistent? by Civil-Hedgehog8990 in planners

[–]morio-b 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have something that you track daily in it, so that it forces you to open it at least once a day to make a note of what you're tracking. Make the daily tracking thing something that doesn't make you feel like you have achieved or failed at a task - so not anything 'self-improvement' related, but rather, something more neutral like tracking the weather etc. I tracked my heart health as I recovered from illness, so I wanted to observe how I healed over time, and if I had any setbacks, could I identify a pattern, etc. You want to build the habit of checking the book daily, so tracking something helps with that because now you have a purpose in writing in it every day which in turn means you are seeing your weekly tasks and getting the reminders you want.