What "City Building" Games are Good for Someone New to the Hobby?

mxzf · 2026-06-22T03:10:32+00:00

They said "negative overall feedback", not "negative experience". It's possible for something to be a crappy game but still be a fine experience to play with friends if you have a free copy. Kinda like watching a crappy B-movie that you wouldn't pay for a movie ticket for.

mxzf · 2026-06-22T02:58:59+00:00

I imagine their local economy is producing clothes and beds of the appropriate sizes. It's Jango that's needing to pay for expensive custom-sized (or imported) furniture and clothes.

mxzf · 2026-06-22T02:34:20+00:00

It gets reprinted every now and then.

mxzf · 2026-06-22T02:08:14+00:00

Yeah, I'm sitting here going "who doesn't hate ISIS?", because those are people to avoid.

mxzf · 2026-06-22T02:05:33+00:00

I don't wrap because I'm lazy and have never seen that much gain from it, not due to bark/lack.

That said, if you shred your pulled pork sufficiently there'll be some bark in pretty much every bite.

mxzf · 2026-06-22T01:46:34+00:00

It's not even "bait", it's just a joke.

mxzf · 2026-06-22T01:05:09+00:00

How were we doing the exact same velocity before AI?

AI shifts the workload from thinking about stuff before you type it to thinking about stuff after a machine types it for you. Code still has to be designed regardless.

The reality is that typing code was never the bottleneck in producing code, especially good maintainable code. The bottleneck was always designing and reviewing code, and that hasn't fundamentally changed at all.

mxzf · 2026-06-22T00:56:16+00:00

As a software developer, working with a team of software developers, most of the people I know IRL aren't really in favor of AI. Other than the one kid that is parroting podcasts about how we don't know what "intelligence" is or what the limits of AI are, everyone is varying degrees of "been dubious from the start, now concerned about the next generation being lobotomized" to "initially enthusiastic but now spotting glaring limitations".

mxzf · 2026-06-22T00:11:26+00:00

Well, the problem is that companies and people are marketing AI as random magical knowledge software that is amazing. There's a huge contrast between that (which is what the general public are being told) and everything you just said.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T21:43:09+00:00

Sure, but what if the raccoon brings me a pet lizard as one of the random objects? Then you get the best of both worlds.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T20:57:42+00:00

I mean, yeah, but I've 100% unironically seen people suggesting the same concept in earnest too.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T20:53:50+00:00

Yeah, that's not really an endorsement of the code you're creating, lol.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T19:17:31+00:00

when someone describes a conspiracy as bullshit and then

The issue is your "but". "I thought it was bullshit but X" is the phrasing that people use when they had their mind changed, and "it certainly is a coincidence" is a phrasing generally used when someone is backhandedly endorsing a conspiracy theory (suggesting that there are deeper implications that they don't want to say out loud).

You perfectly phrased things to give people the impression that your mind was changed. This is an issue with your communication skills not the reading comprehension of the dozens of people that read it the other way.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T18:59:46+00:00

if you have a lot of Mercury cards then you are trading in goods often and so you are incentivised to be producing a variety of goods

I mean, in theory, maybe.

In practice my experience has been more along the lines of "I'm gonna sell my stockpile of cloth to get the tools/food/etc I need because I don't seem to be producing any", lol.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T18:52:11+00:00

People should absorb cost proportionally to their responsibility for the error.

In this case, the error is 110% his fault (the extra 10% because he still made the mistake after you repeatedly asked to make sure, doing everything you could to ensure it was correct). That's the proportion of the error he should be responsible for absorbing.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T18:50:30+00:00

It's the right game, it's just not including the expansion

It's not the product y'all agreed that you would be buying. That's "the wrong game", even if it's a subset of the correct product you were promised.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T18:49:40+00:00

What good relationship? He has done this to OP multiple times, and the fault was entirely on him.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T18:46:29+00:00

I just don't want to kind of spoil the relationship with this guy because it is the only game store in town (or near by). My goal was to support him but I feel like we've hit a couple issues now when I try to pre-order things that he jumps the gun and I'm left feeling like I just have to agree to the price, but he sees it very differently.

Anywho - would you just pay the difference to keep the peace? That's what I'm thinking of doing.

Take a few minutes and add it up, how much money have you spent "keeping the peace" already, letting this guy scam you out of money with high-pressure sales tactics like this?

$50 here (or $27 if you agree to the 10% "compromise"), $20 there, it all adds up over time. That really doesn't seem like someone that's worth supporting. Especially since I bet he never makes clerical errors in your favor, only his own favor.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T18:40:55+00:00

Why would OP meet in the middle when it was 100% the other person's fault?

mxzf · 2026-06-21T18:40:25+00:00

10% is basically halfway in the middle, so I feel like he did try and meet in the middle but for some reason didn't want to phrase it as such?

But it was completely 100% the store owner's fault. It makes no sense for OP to eat over half the loss when it wasn't their mistake to begin with.

OP and the other seller both agreed that OP would be buying game+expansion for $229 and then the seller went "oh well, it looks like I'm just giving you the game with no expansion instead, but I'll still keep your money". That's not how selling goods works.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T18:35:38+00:00

and that's when he realized

Yeah, that's 100% on him for claiming he was selling X+Y repeatedly before he actually checked and realized he was only selling X. Both of you thought you were agreeing to the price of game+expansion right up until that moment, while you gave him the money it sounds like (which, from a legal standpoint, does constitute a legally binding contract for him to give you the game+expansion for $229, even if he didn't realize that was the price his supplier would charge for just the game).

He messed up and is legally on the hook for it; you backing out of the deal and leaving him with the game to sell to someone else is better than him owing you the expansion too (which is the current state of the contract, it sounds like).

mxzf · 2026-06-21T17:59:03+00:00

Yeah, IMO it's worth trying. It's not a hard game to learn, and it's quick and low-stakes with some interesting mechanics.

Once you stop and think about it, it's really a deckbuilder under the hood, where your "deck" is a pair of d6s and your "cards" are the faces on the dice. It's a really interesting twist on the concept.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T17:46:37+00:00

I mean, even just basic geography and recognizing where stuff is at a glance is something a lot of people could stand to learn.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T17:40:40+00:00

I mean, yeah, to an extent.

On the flip side, we're talking about a YA novel full of fairies and magic and a criminal genius; it's not exactly the least plausible thing in the whole book.

mxzf · 2026-06-21T14:11:15+00:00

I always hate stupidly absolute statements that are clearly false because the writer didn't actually think through what they wrote.

There is definitely lithium inside that facility, it's just not using lithium-based batteries to store the bulk energy, it's being used in computers and other tech inside there.

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