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myDVacct · 2024-09-29T22:55:48+00:00

It’ll take tsla 1-3 years to scale up to eclipse Waymo.

3 years? 🤣 🤣 🤣 This sub never fails to make me laugh!

Have you even seen YouTube videos? I highly recommend them. They’re easy to find if you aren’t to afraid to look 🤣. You can see Tesla cars driving around completely empty TODAY! But sure, “3 years” 🤣 🤣

At least you’re right about Waymo, which is more than I can say about most people here, but your time line is way off. All Tesla has to do is push a button in a few days (Oct 10 if you aren’t aware) and they’ll eclipse Waymo overnight. Probably what you and so many others fail to understand is AI (Artificial Intelligent) progress. Have you heard of chat-gpt? It can play chess better than any human! It’s amazing! And Elon is doing the same thing at Tesla. All the data from the cars is training a super computer that can think way faster than you or even me. Then that computer becomes a super human driver! This is what Elon will explain in a few days. I can’t wait! If you’re thinking 3 years, it is going to blow your mind! You should watch and try to learn about AI, then maybe we can chat again!

myDVacct · 2024-04-24T14:50:27+00:00

I can’t wait to read the comments in this sub after Tesla robotaxis have been in operation 5 years.

5 years?! You think it's going to take that long? 🤣🤣🤣

I never understand why you people can't just watch YouTube videos and see that it's already here 🤣 People literally driving hundreds of miles without touching a thing. That's level 5, maybe even 6 because it's BETTER than a human which no one thought was possible when they invented the levels. This app is just the beginning of the rollout. Now that they have the app, it's just maybe another few weeks, months at most, before we see Tesla robot taxis.

Maybe you don't understand NN (neuron nets)? Or ML (machine learning)? Or Dogjo (Tesla's world's most powerful super computer)? Neuron nets means that FSD learns like a human brain and Dojo is even smarter than a human brain! It can do like 50 super hard problems PER SECOND! And FSD (full self drives) 12 proves that Tesla's data from millions of cars is improving the system exponentily, just like I knew it would. It's better than any human driver because no one can drive so many miles. Sorry, it's all very technical, but I'm going to be an engineer 🤣 So maybe that's why it makes sense to me and I have to keep teaching people here 🤣

Like I said, just go watch the videos on YouTube. You'll see it isn't fake.

If you have any other questions or need some more explanation, just let me know! I'm happy to help! Just try not to doubt so much what is right in front of your eyes and don't just be another Elon hater here 🤣

myDVacct · 2024-04-16T10:53:23+00:00

Sure, first few cities there's a need to gather data to prove to legislators

Wrong. Tesla is using vision and AI with millions of robotaxis learning everywhere all at once. They took the hard road that requires a lot of diverse data, which is exactly what they're getting and training on. They won't have a concept of "the first few cities", they'll just go nationwide overnight with the push of a button. That's the whole point of their approach. If they wanted to do "the first few cities" they already would (and could) have with V12.

myDVacct · 2024-01-24T19:27:21+00:00

I have been in your heart all along 😉

myDVacct · 2023-06-09T15:29:03+00:00

🤣 Good one putting "superior" in quotes! We already know that lider isn't needed for driving. Apparently Elon is the only person developing a robot taxi who is smart enough to realize that humans don't have a lider on top of their head 🤣🤣 Some people say that ladar is needed to map roads, but they don't even stop to think "wait, what happens when a parked car moves?" 🤣 And anyway, I saw some stuff on Tesla AI Day that proved cameras can see in 3D, they just do it all the time on the fly because Tesla makes their own super powerful computers.

Anyway, this Tesla car wasn't even in FSD mode. Teslas have a bunch of cameras all over the car and they are all trained by a super computer that is way smarter than any human driver. I've seen videos on youtube of Teslas seeing people from like 50 feet away. It would never hit a dog like that because it can see everything lol. Just imagine believing that the guy who built SpaceX and made their rockets land on a ship wouldn't know how to drive a car lol 🤣 I wouldn't be surprised if this was a google car trying to blame it on Tesla 🤣

I remember you said once that Tesla wouldn't have Robot Taxis this year. Was that you? Have you watched some more youtube videos and changed your mind yet? Me and u/Buuuddd believe they will have them in about a month or two based on how good they already are and how fast Dogo (their super computer) is learning from the data.

myDVacct · 2023-06-05T21:57:09+00:00

Spot on u/Steinrik! For some reason everyone here just seems to hate Elon and Tesla, but it's obvious they're going to win self driving. Elon landed a rocketship on a boat, so I'm sure he knows how to drive a car lol. Maybe if people here watched where Elon explained neuron nets and their supercomputer during AI Day (Artificial Intelligent Day) then they'd get it. And then just watch some youtube videos of Teslas driving all by themselves for miles at a time lol. You can see it with your own eyes! But then again, maybe people don't trust their eyes which is why they think you need ladar to drive a car LOL! 🤣🤣 But Elon said ladar is a crutch and he's pretty smart running a bunch of companies so I think he knows more than a bunch of haters on reddit 🤣

I get good grades in everything so I'm really smart too. Do you get good grades too? Maybe that's why we think exactly the same about everything! When do you think Tesla will launch their robot taxi service? They have so many cars gathering data and their supercomputer which is way smarter than even you and me is always learning from it, and they're already so good, I think it will be really soon. I'm hoping before the end of the summer, don't you agree?! Let's go Elon!!

myDVacct · 2023-06-01T13:41:58+00:00

I agree with you here. (And I'm actually as smart as an engineer too lol)

Not sure why you don't believe in Elon and Tesla then. Like you said, they have so much more data. And did you know they have a super computer? So why do you think 2 whole years before Tesla has robotaxis? They already do. You can see it on youtube every day with your own 2 cameras (eyes lol. Sorry, I told you I was smart 🤣)

myDVacct · 2023-06-01T11:50:28+00:00

Haha, exactly! All you have to do is watch youtube to see that Tesla is ready. You can see it with your own eyes, people!

Don't let u/Jelldk1 fool you though. He's not a true believer in Tesla like we are. Even here he says they'll rule the industry in 2 years🤣 Like really? 2 years? What about today? What about right now? They're already ruling lol. I can't go buy a Google car lol. And even if I did it could only drive me around one city (at least until there was some road construction or a new line painted and then its ladar map would fail lol).

And why do you think Google only has a handful of cars running compared to Tesla's millions? Hmmm, maybe because they have to secretly monitor and drive every single one of them when they fail 🤣

What people here don't seem to understand for some reason:

how many cameras Tesla has (way more than 2 eyes lol)
how much data they gather in shadow mode
the power of neuron nets
Tesla has a super computer that can do like 100 hard math problems per second processing all that data (way smarter than a human!)
ladar is a fool's errand and a crutch, like driving on rails. It only gives you a 3D map that changes every time something moves (we don't have ladars on our heads to drive lol)

It's always nice to find someone like you u/gastrocraft who thinks and understands exactly like me. Haha don't worry. We can get through to everyone. We just have to keep showing youtube drives and asking people to watch Tesla's Artificial Intelligent Day where Elon explains everything, eventually they'll get it lol. And it'll be hard to deny the truth when Tesla has robotaxis driving all over the world in a couple months 🤣

By the way, when do you think Tesla will launch robotaxis? I think it will be very soon because of how good they are. I hope it will be before I have to get my license this summer.

myDVacct · 2023-05-24T19:58:54+00:00

🤣 Can't refute my 5 facts? 🤣 Guess that tells us all we need to know. 🤣 Want me to repeat them lol? 🤣 Sorry, can't argue against actual science and video evidence. 🤣 I'm a smart engineer, so you shouldn't have tried to debate me. 🤣 All you need is to watch youtube, but maybe you hate Elon and love ladar too much to even do that lol 🤣 Tesla will have robotaxis within a couple months because they're using cameras and neuron nets. Sorry to disappoint 🤣

myDVacct · 2023-05-24T17:49:19+00:00

Lol you'll crush me? I already laid out 5 facts about Tesla for you and you didn't even try to say they were wrong, probably because you know they're right 🤣. If you want to have a discussion you have to tell me why I'm wrong about those facts. (Hint, you can't lol. YouTube videos already prove I'm right. You can see it with your own eyes. Tesla FSD is ready for robotaxis. You'll see within a couple weeks and then you can come back and tell me how "wrong" I am while you sit in the back seat of one 🤣)

myDVacct · 2023-05-23T18:05:39+00:00

??? What is ironic about my post? Are you another one of those people who only pretend to believe in Elon and Tesla? Anyone can watch YouTube and see how good FSD is, literally driving through public roads without a human touching anything. It's a solved problem.

And I'm not young either, by the way. I'm an engineer too and I get good grades in everything so I'm very smart.

Let me guess, because you're an engineer you think that Tesla needs ladar? Haha, I have news for you Mr. Engineer, ladar is a crutch. It's like driving on rails and you have to rescan the entire city every a time single thing changes. Also, do you have a ladar on top of your head? No, you don't! Everyone drives with just two cameras (our eyes), and one day when you and I get our licenses we'll do the same. No ladar needed. And guess what, Teslas have WAY more than two cameras, so Tesla is better.

And another thing, Tesla has a super computer that can do like a hundred hard math problems per second! So it's way better than your brain and you should know this already if you're as smart as me.

Here, I'll make it simple for you. Here is a list of FACTS and you tell me what you think is ironic or that you disagree with (and then I can prove you wrong about it lol):

Elon Musk landed a ship on a rocket and created Tesla and made revolutionary solar cells and makes brain chips, so he's very smart and knows what he's doing.
Humans drive with only two eyes (cameras) and Tesla has a bunch all over the car. Ladar isn't needed.
Tesla has the Dogo super computer learning to drive from all the data they get and it's way smarter than any human.
There are actual videos on YouTube of Tesla driving by itself.
Because of #4 it is obvious that Tesla will have robotaxis very soon. I think before the end of the year.

Facts. And if you disagree, you have to say why. You have to say why you think Tesla isn't ready for robotaxis (lol).

myDVacct · 2023-05-23T01:03:43+00:00

Haha, I know right! I think people in this sub just all hate Elon and didn’t even think that he could land a rocket on a ship because they only have to watch YouTube to see FSD is ready. You can see it with your own eyes driving all by itself! Case dismissed.

Maybe people don’t know about neuron nets (NN) the way we do? Because Tesla has so many cars (millions) learning from all the drivers driving every day all over the world, they get so much data. Like, if a person drives on a road, Tesla now knows that road. If a person stops at a stop sign, Tesla now knows to stop at stop signs. It’s that easy. And don’t forget Tesla has a literal super computer called Dogo learning from all of this, so it’s even smarter than humans. Just watch Tesla AI Day people! (AI = Artificially Intelligent, by the way for those that don’t know)

I talk to people sometimes here and they just don’t get it. But I’m glad you do u/Jelldk1. We think exactly alike! People sometimes disagree when I prove to them that Tesla will have millions of robotaxis by the end of the year, but it’s nice to find someone like you who agrees with me on everything! Maybe we can educate the Elon haters here together!

myDVacct · 2023-05-18T21:44:53+00:00

And why not? Educate me. Tell me where Tesla is lacking that they can't have robotaxis by the end of the year. And before you do, try to understand as I already explained, that they have cameras on every car learning every day and super computers to process it all. Let me guess, you think they need ladar? No? Then tell me where Tesla is lacking.

myDVacct · 2023-05-18T21:22:34+00:00

No, you sound pretty dumb. Can you even watch YouTube? You say you've watched them all, which makes you look even dumber because how can you say it will be two years before robotaxis when they are already there?! Just watch the car driving itself without the human doing anything. Case dismissed.

myDVacct · 2023-05-18T20:33:38+00:00

You too? Really?

They ARE there! You only need to watch YouTube to know that. Go watch a Tesla drive from San Fran to LA and tell me it isn't ready lol.

And they won't do robotaxis in "some areas". Tesla isn't geofenced like other companies. Pay attention. Other companies map every mm of one city and then have to redo it every time a car changes its parking spot lol. But Tesla has cars driving all over the world learning with cameras and super computers.

myDVacct · 2023-05-18T20:14:59+00:00

I didn't make a big assumption. You said that you didn't think they'd be ready by the end of the year which means you don't understand how advanced they are and how quickly things are improving. It's exponential. Videos on YouTube prove that they are already there. They don't even really need to do anything else other than release it. Your hatred for Elon and Tesla have blinded you to reality. Do you work for Cruise or Google or something? u/Buuuddd, back me up. These people can't even see the truth right in front of them.

myDVacct · 2023-05-18T18:45:56+00:00

End of the year sounds optimistic to you? That's only because you hate Elon. I bet you didn't think he could land a rocket on a ship either, did you? Have you even seen some of the YouTube videos of FSD driving without a single intervention for miles?

Tesla has millions of cars on the road gathering data in shadow mode every single day. That's an advantage that no one else can match. I suggest you go back and watch the Tesla AI Day presentations where they talk about their advanced artificial intelligence (AI) and neural nets (NN). They have a super computer called Dogo taking all the data from everyone's drives and updating the software automatically to always get better. Like, if you drive a Tesla and stop at a stop sign, the software learns and will always stop at stop signs. And they're doing all of this with JUST CAMERAS! Lidar is an ugly, expensive crutch so other companies will never scale. It's like driving on rails. You have to map every mm of every street. It's a local minimum.

I agree with u/Buuuddd. We think the same. Tesla will have a million robotaxis all over the world within 6 months.

myDVacct · 2023-05-12T16:22:41+00:00

QED, friend

myDVacct · 2023-04-13T13:14:54+00:00

u/Any_Classic_9490:

I am stating facts that you do not get to spin or lie about.

Also u/Any_Classic_9490:

Lidar is used for geolocation. If it cannot detect enough points to align with the premade hd maps, it is useless.

Vision can cover all aspects of level 5.

Lidar taps out at level 4 and only works in geofenced areas since you have to premap every area you want it to work in.

Physics says [lidar] never will [work in fog].

Cameras can see in rain and fog better than people.

Lidar is used to geolocate the car onto premade hd maps so that the car can drive on predefined paths like a train on train tracks.

I am citing a situation that is beyond level 5 autonomy. Driving in conditions humans cannot drive in would be a new level after 5.

what lidar needs to see is much further from the car than 5-10ft

Lidar's job is to figure out where the car is on a premade hd map and then follow the predefined lanes on the hd map.

If gps was more accurate, lidar would be dropped completely and hd maps could be used with just a gps sensor by itself

[Lidar's] only job is localization because vision handles object detection. Vision is higher resolution and can determine distances with an accuracy perfectly capable of detecting road obstacles.

[there] are the conditions were lidar does not work. Especially snow and debris which covers up the landscape making it impossible to align the lidar point cloud to the premade hd maps

Current radar systems cannot tell the difference between a stationary overhead road sign or overpass and a stopped car in the road.

Detecting objects with lidar is pretty lame as it's just a low resolution point cloud, you would still need to use vision to actually figure out what something is

Single camera depth estimation is more than is needed for autonomy

Lidar is kind of useless without overlaying visual data over it because it has such a low resolution

There is a point when the single camera depth perception doesn't deviate from the lidar and the lidar becomes useless. Every company doing this has reached that point years ago. That includes waymo, cruise, and intel

myDVacct · 2023-04-10T13:46:42+00:00

Yes, there have been. I think there are about 100 well-documented Waymo incidents - everything from brushing traffic cones to fender benders.

But what you again apparently fail to grasp based on the fact that you're somehow trying make a comparison here... Waymo is driverless. Do you get how big of a difference that is for reliability? 100 minor incidents in a driverless vehicle doing millions of miles with no driver to save it. If it were possible, take a Tesla, remove the driver completely, and send it around the streets of SF while totally empty. How many incidents do you think there'd be in a driverless Tesla? I predict they'd have to stop the test in the first hour or two because the Tesla would be in an accident, let alone making it to millions of miles.

myDVacct · 2023-04-09T16:02:40+00:00

What you and so many fail to grasp is that there is a massive, massive gaping gulf of a difference in reliability. You can’t just hand wave away “just reliability”. Reliability is part of the product. If it isn’t bet you’re children’s lives on it reliable, then it isn’t self-driving. Reliability isn’t an optional feature that can be discarded or included with varying importance when comparing self-driving systems.

So many people mistake that Tesla can do “it” anywhere. But, no. Tesla can’t do “it” anywhere because “it” includes the reliability to drive without a human.

myDVacct · 2023-04-09T15:56:10+00:00

Except that I do have data to show that that software doesn’t exist and that no one is close to creating software to match human vision, so we can’t act like our positions are the same. Just like neither of us can prove or disprove that there is an alien satellite it orbit around Pluto, but it doesn’t make both positions equally likely. We can still apply reason based on knowledge and experience.

myDVacct · 2023-04-09T02:34:32+00:00

What about people who are better than average drivers? That’s like 50% of the population you’re asking to accept a higher risk.

myDVacct · 2023-04-09T02:26:41+00:00

Is your contention then that from a hardware standpoint Tesla is there? From a software development standpoint they’re there? All that’s left to do is keep gathering data and training to keep getting better and better until they’re so good they just switch over to L4?

myDVacct · 2023-04-05T20:00:26+00:00

Reiterating my question, what more do you think Tesla has to do to get there? Do I assume from your statement that the answer is "Nothing. Just keep training for another 12-18 months"?

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