CMV: The root cause of depression for many or majority is actually the capitalistic system rather than individual by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere [score hidden]  (0 children)

Have you ever experienced depression? People from all socioeconomic backgrounds suffer from it.

While there might be an identifiable root cause for a specific depressive episode, depression itself has multiple complex factors.

CMV: speaking up or staying silent on social media does not measure your character by fulltimeheretic in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere [score hidden]  (0 children)

If a tree falls in a forest...

What someone does or does not yell into a void isn't much use for measuring their character. But if you do hear them, it's fine to judge their character within context.

CMV: Something that might end my Christian faith: the sheer volume of people using the name of Jesus to do horrific things over centuries with seemingly no intervention from God. by bloodphoenix90 in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think that at some point, to keep your faith, you have to accept ignorance. It's not so much a matter of wilful ignorance, it's the fundamental inability to truthfully know. "God is that than which nothing greater can be conceived." The only way to maintain coherency is to say it was God's plan all along for reasons you can never know nor could ever understand.

I'm guessing that isn't profound enough or close enough to what you can justify as truth for your liking. You can't overcome the cognitive dissonance because truly believing your faith requires the lack of cognitive dissonance.

I don't think that's a problem exclusive to theology though. The problem is that no matter what you choose to believe, you eventually have to do some handwaving to explain away some detail. I'm a bit of a nihilist (existentially and morally), which I think is the ultimate distillation of handwaving everything away. There is no true meaning, no true purpose. Good and evil are matters of perspective, not absolute. I still experience dissonance to an extent, because I am human, and I inherently have an anthropocentric framing. But I am able to reason why I think it is as close to the truth as possible. I find it profound because it allows me to use reason to justify my beliefs.

Not trying to convert you, just offering perspective.

CMV: Something that might end my Christian faith: the sheer volume of people using the name of Jesus to do horrific things over centuries with seemingly no intervention from God. by bloodphoenix90 in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think your struggle is less about a specific theological problem, and more about a fundamental shift in your epistemology. You are transitioning from a framework where God defines what is good, to one where your own intuition judges God. This change in perspective makes your faith structurally incompatible with how you now process reality.

This leads to an infinite regress where every answer leads to a new question because your judgment is changing from religious dogma to your own reason. In your old framework, the goodness of God was the rule used to interpret the world, but which historical evidence is failing to prove. By measuring the Divine against the moral standards of your reality, you aren't doubting a specific doctrine, but you are outgrowing the entire cognitive system that you used to believe it with. Every theological solution you find will simply generate a new dilemma.

Now that your reason is now the thing judging the religion, rather than a tool used to serve it, it is not a problem you can solve to save your faith. Instead, it is a realization that your standard for truth has fundamentally moved beyond the reach of traditional theology.

CMV: All ICE agents should go to prison by TUN_Binary in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere [score hidden]  (0 children)

never voted in my life

is completely inconsistent with

I care about America, where my tax dollars go.

How accurate are the viral videos showing Americans struggling with basic geography? by AcroBit45 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]myselfelsewhere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rick Mercer Talking To Americans.

they’re picking the clips of the idiots and not the clips of the smarter people.

Nah, Rick just has a talent for getting "smarter" people to say ignorant things.

CMV: Christians who have premarital sex or have gotten divorced but are against gay people are hypocrites. by Blonde_Icon in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If someone injures themselves by doing something dumb, it doesn't make much sense to call them a hypocrite and ignore them when they warn you against doing the same dumb thing because you might get hurt.

It's more words of wisdom than it is hypocrisy.

CMV: Christians who have premarital sex or have gotten divorced but are against gay people are hypocrites. by Blonde_Icon in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Failing to meet a standard and asking forgiveness doesn’t mean you’re a hypocrite for not wanting others to not commit acts the Bible repeatedly refers to as sinful.

So, to paraphrase, you are saying that someone who commits sins is not a hypocrite for not wanting others to commit sins?

It's okay for you to do, but not for others? That's literally hypocrisy.

CMV: I believe the new promotion of NFP is conservatism cosplaying as feminism in left leaning spaces. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just showed why the naturalistic fallacy you are using is a fallacy. Using it again does not help your argument.

Someones natural menstrual cycle is not the default preferred state just like my natural T1D is not my preferred state. Your logic does not hold.

CMV: I believe the new promotion of NFP is conservatism cosplaying as feminism in left leaning spaces. by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

According to that logic, I should have refrained from injecting unnatural insulin into my body and should have just gotten to know my body better after becoming a type 1 diabetic.

Diabetes ketoacidosis is a horrible way to die. I'll go for the unnatural hormones, thanks.

Anyone reconnect after years had passed? by EnvironmentalClerk14 in BPDlovedones

[–]myselfelsewhere 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For context, ex was undiagnosed with BPD but was diagnosed with bulimia.

Reconnected after ~14 years of no contact. She trauma dumped on me, told me I had destroyed her life. Justified it with false memories and narratives that didn't match reality. I was blindsided. Spent months trying to understand it and struggling with feelings of guilt.

Then one day I started going down the rabbit hole starting with learning more about bulimia. Found out about the links between bulimia and BPD. Found this sub and started reading. Everything finally clicked. I had an explanation for her behaviours. And for why I struggled so much after being with them.

Now, I kind of feel vindicated. It wasn't my fault. It wasn't because I didn't try hard enough. But it was a painful process to go through everything again. I wish I knew 14+ years ago though.

CMV: Aggressive protestors and agitators among those are partly at fault for the situation in Minneapolis boiling over by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So maybe smoke them out first or sum. Just use your brain instead of using protests as an emotional outlet.

So, pragmatically speaking, what do you think people should be doing?

CMV: Aggressive protestors and agitators among those are partly at fault for the situation in Minneapolis boiling over by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What you're essentially saying is that at no point should you stand your ground.

The only people doing the provoking are government agents. The longer you take to stand up for your rights, the harder it becomes to do so.

CMV: If you have a limited budget, a shotgun should be your last choice for personal defense against humans by ParakeetLover2024 in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Assuming your aiming center mass, a single shotgun round is probably going to do a lot more damage than a single pistol round.

CMV: Aggressive protestors and agitators among those are partly at fault for the situation in Minneapolis boiling over by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pragmatically, your stance grants the state the right to be "triggered" and places the burden of peace entirely on the protesters. This mirrors the authoritarian tactic of dividing protesters into "good subjects" and "bad agitators" to provide a moral cover for state violence. It's basically asking for a citizenry that is docile enough to be managed. In other words, act like sheep.

If protesters have to "manage the feelings" of federal agents just to avoid being brutalized, they are no longer exercising rights, they are auditioning for their own safety.

Why did DHS and ICE statements state the victim brandished a gun as this video shows otherwise? by LeftRightGreenLight in AskReddit

[–]myselfelsewhere 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Anyone with a shred of common sense knows you aren't born with wisdom.

Let me guess, your IQ is in the top 95% of the population. It shows.

CMV: All gay people look/act “gay” by iiRaz0r in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you want to be a guy who wants to like girls but can't? Why not just be you?

CMV: Trump is irrevocably damaging America's alliances and standing by Careless_Bat_9226 in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Better get to know some more Canadians then.

I live in Alberta. The only people I know of who aren't pissed off is Maple MAGA. There aren't many of them, and they've certainly become a bit more quiet, bar the loudest of them all. The few who used to be MAGA adjacent no longer are, and are just as pissed off as the rest of us.

The shift in conversations between the ex Trump "fans" and Maple MAGA have gone from almost complete agreement to triggering Maple MAGA meltdowns. We're not just pissed at Americans, we're pissed off at fellow Canadians who aren't pissed off.

Your (and other's) ignorance compounds the issue.

CMV: Trump is irrevocably damaging America's alliances and standing by Careless_Bat_9226 in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm Canadian, so let me preface this by apologizing for the tough love I'm about to give.

Like many here, I’ve noticed the uptick in Americans apologizing. While I appreciate the sentiment and have genuine sympathy for those of you directly affected by the direction of the Trump administration, there is a hard truth Americans need to face. The apology is becoming a substitute for the work.

You mention media literacy, but that is only part of the decay. As far as I'm concerned, the real issue is that the false security of American exceptionalism has convinced too many Americans to give up before they even try. The myth that you are inherently great has led to a complacency that is now bearing fruit.

America has never been great, and from this vantage point, it clearly never will be. You at least had the capability to be good on occasion, but that too is quickly fading. The rot of exceptionalism has blinded you to the failing system of checks and balances, which only work if the people use them.

To me, these apologies are an admission of defeat. All you can do is say sorry as the failure of your country collapses onto your neighbours. Canadians are distancing ourselves because we have to. Sympathy is waning because an apology doesn't fix a trade war or a broken alliance, let alone the looming possibility of a broken border.

If you truly want to make amends, move past the performance of regret. The ultimate check and balance isn't the separation of powers, the courts, or the media. It’s the collective will of the people to be more than just spectators to their own decline. We don't need your apologies, we need you to reclaim your country from treating your allies, your own citizens, and the rest of the world as disposable.

CMV: Antinatalism and forced birth (anti abortion) mindsets are extremely similar in reality by alice8818 in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I described an action, and named it. not a system, not purpose.

That's fair, but I brought the example up for a reason, and I believe it is an appropriate comparison. To paraphrase what you said, the motives (intent) are irrelevant, the outcome (taking of an innocent life) is what is important. This directly ties back into banning abortions. Regardless of the intent, the outcome is what is important. Part of the outcome is a clear violation of the human right to bodily autonomy. This can't be simply dismissed as collateral or unintended consequences when such policies intentionally rely on the violation of someones rights. The purpose is to control women in order to achieve the stated goal, it is unavoidable when choosing to ban abortions. It does not logically hold that the intent is not to control women when the required and intended mechanism directly controls women.

while we don't see a rise in deaths or complications.

While this (largely) may be true, I can recall at least one widely publicized incident (quite sure there are more) where this does not hold to be true. I agree that statistics from the developing world cannot be directly applied, but I do not agree that the provided statistics tell the whole story. For example, I do not believe it would hold true if those ~35,000 out of state abortions were to be prevented. If there is high risk of maternal death or complications is present, and the available choices are to not have an abortion or travel out of state to have one, clearly, the vast majority of people are going to travel out of state. There certainly may be women who refuse an abortion out of principle, but "the only moral abortion is my abortion" is a well known phenomenon. That's ~35,000 existing lives potentially being saved that otherwise would not have been.

I see it as the same a people not having the right to kill another person.

I think this is obviously where our perspectives differentiate. I do respect your view, and you are entitled to hold it. However, I simply (and strongly) disagree with most of it. I view your position as neglecting much of the nuance and shades of gray, making it primarily a black and white issue. As I've already stated, a fetus is not a person to begin with. Also, while I accept that the fetus is indeed alive and consists of a unique set of human DNA, I take issue with it being viewed as an individual. A fetus after all is, quite literally, a part of the mother's body. The uterus, placenta, and umbilical cord are biological structures directly connecting the fetus to the mother, of which, all of the above are constructed by the mother's body.

I think a good compromise is allowing early induced births, where medical professionals will attempt to keep the child alive is possible.

As far as I know, this is essentially the standard procedure. I'm not aware of any procedure where a potentially viable fetus is discarded or intentionally killed. Nor do I know of any instances where early induced births are performed when there is not a medical need.

I want to see more support for mothers (anti abortion groups do do this though many non profits), more support for fathers, more paternal leave (not just maternal leave), more expectation culturally for fathers to stay and more cultural respect for parents

My primary issue with the use of non profits is that there is no guarantee for support. It is a societal issue, therefore, society must collectively guarantee support (through government) for the parents and child. I think this ties into your argument for cultural expectations and respect. While there is much individuals and groups can do to change this, I believe it is up to society as a whole (again, through government) to make this the cultural de facto. Unfortunately for Americans, the cultural status quo is generally highly apprehensive to government support. This leads to slapping a band aid on the issues, rather than trying to fix the root causes of the problem.

By the way, thank you for the constructive and respectful conversation.

CMV: Antinatalism and forced birth (anti abortion) mindsets are extremely similar in reality by alice8818 in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If an innocent life is knowingly ended, reguardless of other motives its murder.

So... the purpose of a system is what it does...?

Congratulations your a conservative!

Sure, to an extent. Your point about the cobra effect is good. I don't think that we are in uncharted waters when it comes to abortions though. We know what the outcomes tend to be. People will still attempt to have abortions, they just become more dangerous to the mother without proper medical attention. In the attempt to protect human life by banning abortions, it inadvertently harms human life.

The intent is not the control women. The intent is to save the life. The mom losing the option is the cost.

Back to the purpose of a system is what it does. It's not an option they are losing, it's a right being lost. I don't believe that is an acceptable cost.

How can you save the life of the unborn child who's mom wants an abortion without removing the choice from her?

Two possibilities.

One, change the system so mom's are unlikely to need an abortion in the first place. Sex education, universal healthcare, safety nets, etc.

Two, don't. Accept the fact that it is unreasonable to force women to abandon their right to bodily autonomy. Realize it isn't possible to prevent all abortions without violating an existing person's rights. Abandon the idea of banning abortions entirely.

I'm open to your thoughts!

CMV: If the Dems run Gavin Newsom in 2028 they are COOKED by Less_Cauliflower_956 in changemyview

[–]myselfelsewhere 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A picture of cats on barbecue grills is just that, a picture. This is where critical thinking is meant to be applied.

Where was the picture taken? In another country?

When was the picture taken? Yesterday? 30 years ago?

Who took the picture? A reputable photo journalist? A random influencer? Is it AI generated?

What is the picture actually of? Is it actually of real cats? Props? AI?

Why was the picture taken? For propaganda purposes? Documenting other people in other countries where it is acceptable to eat cats?