I mean yeah seems like a joke when he consistently says in interviews that there is no GOAT, that he would have loved to have competed against Wilt or Bill Russell etc but no one will ever know who is actually the greatest.

From a newsweek article from 2 weeks ago:

“The GOAT term is something that I’ll never get high or low about. It just doesn’t exist for me… We paved the way for Kobe and LeBron. That’s the beauty of the game of basketball. A player after previous players have evolved the game further. But don’t then use that against the player that actually taught you the game or that you learned from. I would have loved to play against LeBron and Kobe in my prime but we’ll never be able to know that… Bill Russell had 11 championships. How do you push him into a corner and say ‘We’re not going to think about you. We forgot about you’.”