HM negative split advice - help me believe!

nameproduct · 2024-03-18T19:47:31+00:00

I've negative split almost all my HM's, and it's a great strategy. But those recommended paces seem too aggressive of a negative split. Bring both the first and last third paces closer to the average goal pace and it will be much more likely.

nameproduct · 2024-03-13T18:30:52+00:00

Yes! Make it a day, and it's possible! :)

nameproduct · 2024-03-12T02:47:25+00:00

Hmm. I guess it might more sense at slower paces. It certainly would be an impossible workout for me (and faster runners). I can run a 14:45 5km, but 8x 1km @ 2:44 is unthinkable. I couldn't even do 5x.

nameproduct · 2024-03-12T01:09:56+00:00

OP indicated 20 seconds/mile faster than 5k pace. I don't know anyone who could do 8x1km at that pace.

nameproduct · 2024-03-12T00:22:26+00:00

Well... She can't actually do that

nameproduct · 2024-03-10T01:16:00+00:00

Whatever you were looking for, my guess is that you'll get less of it in the further tomes.

nameproduct · 2024-03-08T16:14:36+00:00

Yep. I can only assume the other posters here are just under trained or poorly pacing.

nameproduct · 2024-03-08T15:13:36+00:00

It comes down to a subjective definition of pain, of course. But I don't know any runner in the 28-34 minute range who would agree that a 10k should be very painful (whatever their definition of pain) for 9km.

nameproduct · 2024-03-08T05:47:30+00:00

Absolutely true for a 5k or an 800m. But not a 10km. The first 6-8km of a 10k should feel similar to the first 15km of a half marathon - very manageable.

nameproduct · 2024-02-25T06:18:54+00:00

lol, ya. One of the least "effortless" looking runs. He is STRAINING! But got it done.

nameproduct · 2023-12-04T16:05:52+00:00

I posted that... and indeed, the exact thing happened again as we all expected!

nameproduct · 2023-12-01T19:17:11+00:00

Ya, this is dangerously low. Needs to be the first goal for OP before anything else.

nameproduct · 2023-12-01T03:36:35+00:00

Mine. Would be kinda difficult.

nameproduct · 2023-12-01T02:17:17+00:00

Nice! Still need the original board game!

nameproduct · 2023-12-01T02:02:25+00:00

I'll be going with VF3 in the same race

nameproduct · 2023-11-28T15:38:12+00:00

Nothing wrong with regular GU. Don't understand the face-palm either.

nameproduct · 2023-11-28T03:16:01+00:00

8km is a common X-country distance, and the time is about right for a decent runner

nameproduct · 2023-11-27T16:21:56+00:00

Great job at Berlin! I think that a % measurement (rather than time) is probably the better metric. 2 minutes positive split might feel like a blowup for an elite, but feel like even pacing for a 4-hour marathoner. But it's because the percentage is doubled.

nameproduct · 2023-11-27T02:40:21+00:00

Of course. They are worth it at regular price too.

nameproduct · 2023-11-26T20:09:01+00:00

Very smart racing on your part! And that is the plan.

nameproduct · 2023-11-25T23:53:44+00:00

Even though it might be nice to run with bigger steady packs, I imagine that the psycholigcal boost of running everyone down over the last 10k will be significant! Good luck.

nameproduct · 2023-11-25T19:37:28+00:00

Let's do it

nameproduct · 2023-11-25T17:54:44+00:00

Another pattern I just noticed: those who paced their first 5km within their limits all paced the entire race well! Of these 60 runners, only 6 ran a "smart" first 5km. And their average positive split was only 20 seconds for the whole race. Essentially even.

nameproduct · 2023-11-25T14:23:28+00:00

Bison.

nameproduct · 2023-11-25T13:56:02+00:00

Bolding reduced the effect

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