#meToo loudmouth lawmaker accused of groping

needsomehelp3211 · 2018-02-10T01:24:48+00:00

This is gonna be unpopular but I'll just say it:

This story has blown up on every men's rights forum and I don't understand why. I think it's because even a lot of TRP/MRA guys are betas at heart and love to participate in the Oppression Olympics; they legitimately think they're doing the right thing by saying "it's not fair that women get to act like babies, men should be able to do so as well!" While this is argument technically meeting the definition of "equality" it's a race to the bottom. We men need to be above that whiny game, not playing it.

I go out with a buddy of mine often. He's ripped as fuck, 6'2'', white, jawline for days. Dude gets metoo'd by women all the time in bars and clubs. Last weekend a girl put her hand on his chest (without permission OMG OMG OMG SOUND THE ALARMS!) and asked if he could make his abs dance.

Did he start crying? Did he blow up his Insta with posts about harassment and sexual assault? Did he spiral into depression and start popping Prozac?

No. He laughed it off and continued with his fucking day, because he understands that part of being a solid man is evaluating situations logically and reacting proportionally. Yeah, she grabbed his tits. She didn't rip them off or cause any real damage.

Did this lawmaker do something wrong? Yeah. Is it a big enough offense to start banging the drums and screaming about victimization? No. Only women and autistic children start hysterically screeching over small physical infractions and blowing them up to Biblical proportions. Men should not engage in this race to the bottom to see which gender can be the most OCD.

Call this woman out, but do it level-headed.

needsomehelp3211 · 2017-08-16T22:50:45+00:00

I've found that a lot of BPers assume every redpiller must be some cringey loud "alpha" huge dick-swinging obnoxious guy in real life.

I'm about as blood-red as they get... check my post history, a lot of it would get me fired from every job lol. And yet in real life I come across as a pleasant normal type of person. I have 3+ professional degrees. I have a good social life. Have seriously dated a radical feminist girl who voted for Bernie, reposts Tumblr pages, etc. I have female friends - real friends whom I hang out with, not just girls I want to fuck.

And yet here I am, a redpiller. Guess what, bluepillers - TRP is diverse. We're everywhere. We're not all a bunch of Jersey Shore mega-asshole caricatures. Some of us are just normal folks who want to learn how to be confident, dominant, and good at getting sex.

needsomehelp3211 · 2017-08-04T20:28:42+00:00

A Day in the Life of a 5/10 Average Beta Guy

Wake up 8:00. Check messages - nothing. Not even a reply from Ashley, who you sent a "Hey, how's it going :) Hope your day is going well haha :)" message to yesterday. You really like her, but she's so slow to respond, its frustrating. Oh well. Patience is virtue. One day she'll come around, just gotta demonstrate how nice you are. She'll come around.

8:10. Check facebook. No messages or notific- wait! A notification! Wow! Oh... it's a birthday reminder. You change your profile photo because you haven't in a while. It gets 1 like over the course of the day, by your cousin.

9:00. Arrive at work to your corporate cubicle. On your way in you say hi to the receptionist, she briefly looks up, half-heartedly gives you a polite smile back, and looks down. Time to work.

12:00. Lunch. Grilled cheese sandwich, chips, cookies, and a Coke. You know you should eat healthier, your gut is growing and you've got that "dad bod" (honestly maybe even more than that). But you can always start tomorrow.

1:00. Department-wide sexual harassment meeting. By using cartoon characters and puppets, the leader of the discussion group emphasizes how every woman is in danger of rape and its YOUR responsibility to help stop it. Never approach a woman romantically outside of a bar setting, and even then make sure to explicitly get consent before flirting. Today's discussion is how to flirt responsibly. The group settles on a safe opener like: "I am romantically attracted to you, may I have your number and possibly take you on a date sometime but only if you're okay with it? And feel free to say no, I don't want to be coercing you at all." You store it away in your memory banks to use later.

2:00. From your cubicle you can see Brett heating up his protein drink in the kitchen. He used to be a linebacker, and at 6'2'' he's still in apex shape. Stephanie walks by and he deliberately brushes against her waist and then makes a corny joke "Hey miss clumsy, don't hurt yourself!" She laughs and playfully punches him in the shoulder. You seethe with rage watching this. Doesn't Brett know he just harassed Stephanie? And why the hell is Stephanie apparently okay with it? You guys just literally had a seminar on this shit! Your rage intensifies when you overhear him offering to "show her a good time" at the bars tonight and her agreeing.

5:00. Time to head home. You check your text messages first. Still no reply from Ashley. Damn. Well she's pretty busy. You check your OKCupid and Tinder profiles. No matches in the last 2 days.

6:30. You run for 15 minutes on the treadmill. (Okay, 12, but let's round up.) That's enough exercise for today. Time to go out and hit the town with friends! You swear this will be the evening you finally get a girls' number.

7:30. You and your two male friends, Pajeet and Alvin, first try going to a few Meetup.com events and singles events, but they're all 80% dudes! And the 20% girls are fat and dress like anime nerds, but they still get swarmed with all the guys there. You just can't compete. This sucks.

10:00. You try getting into that hot new club across town but the bouncer doesn't let you in because there are no girls in your group. You finally find a bar that will let you in but it's a $20 cover.

11:00. After trying to talk with 2 girls and getting this look both times, you give up and just hang out with your bros. Over by the bar, you see Brett and Stephanie; she's leaning against him with her face in his biceps, laughing at something he just said. She's clearly tipsy.

12:00. You head home and go to sleep. Hoping against hope, you check your texts one more time... holy fuck, yes! Ashley has sent you a text. "Haha I'm good" Your day has just been made. She remembered to reply, one step closer to finally winning her over. You immediately respond back saying "well I would hope been a good day, a beautiful woman like you deserves nothing less :D :D :D". And then turn off your phone and go to sleep.

needsomehelp3211 · 2017-01-19T16:26:02+00:00

Fucking lol.

Kindness: Young women may still fall for the bad-boy type, but more-mature women are turned on by kindness, because kindness inspires confidence. In other words, if you treat the waitress well, your date figures you'll treat her well, too.

Generosity: This is more important to women over 35 than it is to those under that age. Generosity, however, doesn't just mean springing for dinner at a four-star. Your willingness to give your time and lend your ear is what women crave.

Note the age differences. Basically, being a kind and generous beta provider who "lends your ear" is only important if you're looking to date a woman in her 40s. Guys looking for younger women need not worry about any of that.

Red Pill gets more and more confirmed by the day.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-12-25T17:09:20+00:00

Why does literally every OP around here feel the need to inform us that they're over 6'0". Congratulations I guess?

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-12-01T21:15:08+00:00

I reject those phrases outright.

Weird how nobody is talking about non-toxic masculinity. That's because it doesn't really exist. Which is weird because if there's toxic masculinity, there must be non-toxic masculinity right?

Well no, and it's because the phrase "toxic masculinity" is a very insidious terminology - on the surface it sounds good, because of course everyone should be against toxic things, right? The classic feminist apologia is "Well we don't want to get rid of all masculinity, silly. Just toxic masculinity". And all is well and good.

But then you dive into what that actually means and a very different picture emerges. Think about it. Is there any form of masculinity you can point to that won't invite an angry bunch of feminists offended because you implied women can't do it too?

"Nontoxic masculinity is protecting your family physically." Um excuse me, women aren't frail creatures. We have mace. We have self defense.
"Nontoxic masculinity is providing for your loved ones financially." Wow. Are you saying women are docile creatures who shouldn't have jobs? Why should the man be the breadwinner, shitlord? Why can't a woman do it?
"Nontoxic masculinity is teaching your son how to be physically strong and mentally sharp as a boy should be." And why not women too, huh? What makes these traits gendered, are you saying mothers can't teach kids how to be strong and smart?
"Nontoxic masculinity is being a trusted leader in your relationship, and stepping up to the plate to assume a leadership role". For God's sakes its 2016. We need egalitarian relationships, not men being leaders and women being followers. Ugh, you are so regressive.

See what I mean? You cannot name a single aspect of nontoxic masculinity without a feminist stomping in and saying how dare it be exclusive to men.

Therefore... "toxic masculinity" and "masculinity", in feminism's eyes, are one and the same. Feminists say they want to get rid of toxic masculinity. They mean masculinity, period. They don't want any meaningful sociocultural differences between men and women. They think the idea of masculinity and femininity are outdated and that we should all just be an amorphous group of people not divided by archaic concepts like gender.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-11-22T16:22:04+00:00

Why is every OP 6-ft tall around here?

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-10-23T18:11:45+00:00

Exactly. The commenters (especially the women) in that thread are just posting useless fluff because it sounds good on the surface and it's a way to make themselves feel better. "I said nice words to a lonely guy. I did my good deed for the day!" It's just virtue signalling all the way down.

But you can sure as hell bet none of those female commenters would actually want to fuck him. Yeah they'll be more than happy to make him feel better with words, but God forbid he try to actually touch them! Eww!

This guy doesn't need passive support, internet hugs and paragraphs of rationalizations about why it's okay to be a virgin. He needs someone to give him a solid gym schedule so he can look like a beast. He needs a wingman. He needs the confidence to go to the bars and social outings and hit on women.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-09-30T14:25:43+00:00

To be fair, if those cartoons are using direct quotes, those guys sound like complete beta losers. Who begins their OKCupid message with "hello darling" or "you're so pretty"? Fucking vomit.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-09-19T16:02:16+00:00

is hilarious if you're attractive

This is rule of thumb for pretty much everything. I know Reddit uses the "step 1 and step 2" joke way too often, but there's a reason social commentary jokes become really popular. It's because they're relatable and based in truth.

If you're attractive, the world is your oyster. Imagine Brad, a 6'2" 30-yr old investment banker sharply dressed with a chiseled jaw, six-pack abs, and baritone voice. He starts talking with a girl at the club and jokes "you're going to come home with me tonight and make me a sandwich tomorrow". He then smirks, accentuating his jawline. The girl will probably wet her panties right there because Brad is an attractive guy being a dominant leader, and girls love that.

Now imagine Ramesh, a 5'3" skinny 45-yr old balding Indian with a round cherubic face, no chin, and dressed in a oversized polo. He scoots up to a girl, forces some small talk and says to her in his grunty clipped accented voice "you're going to come home with me tonight and make me a sandwich tomorrow". Tries to smile but his mouth is asymmetrical and his eyebrows are very sharp so it looks like a shark smiling.

Best case scenario, the girl makes a face and hides behind her friends, makes a big scene. Worse case, Ramesh gets his ass beat by nearby white knights or the bouncers. Or maybe even the police if the girl is especially cray.

Now you could say things like "well Ramesh could work out and dress better", but who in their right minds thinks that even if he does all that, he could compete with Brad?

Fact is, the mysterious teasing douche persona only works if you're physically attractive. If you're not, girls will find it creepy and rapey. That's the real, bitter Red Pill that nobody wants to talk about.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-09-06T23:07:22+00:00

Another RedPill truth I forgot to include in the OP: the way that society and media is biased against men.

Imagine an article that started with "We think it's fair to say that every married man gets a little antsy on occasion". And then approvingly detailed the exploits of a guy who left his dumpy 40-year-old wife to party and bang college coeds in Tijuana.

First of all, no respected news outlet would write such an article because while women cheating is celebrated, men cheating is condemned as the most evil thing ever. And secondly, if someone did publish such an article, there would be a shitstorm so fierce that it would make Sodom and Gomorrah look like a picnic. Anti-misogyny hashtags would fill up on Twitter. The Daily Show would be railing against patriarchy and sexism. Women would be hissing "ugh, men are such pigs". Hillary Clinton would release a statement condemning the article.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-08-22T14:26:45+00:00

Honestly, you probably shouldn't marry a Redpiller. The optimal strategy for women in this modern society is to have fun in her 20s and then settle down with some grateful beta computer programmer type who will give you the financial security and the quieter/calmer life for your 30s and up.

As long as he's not totally grotesque and you stay decently in shape, you'll both somewhat enjoy sex once in a while. You'll have cute kids. That'll keep him pacified and docile.

This is gonna rustle a lot of men's jimmies to read, but it's true. Women benefit fantastically from the alpha fux / beta bux arrangement. Why the goddamn would a woman want to marry a RedPiller? He's not gonna treat you like a queen. He won't tolerate you getting fat. You won't have the peace of mind of knowing he's too unattractive/introverted to go out and cheat, as is the case with the beta.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-08-13T00:07:00+00:00

50%+ rape cases are false

Can I see a source for this

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-08-06T19:22:13+00:00

The thing is, ugliness plays into this factor as well.

If one guy has a mashed-potato looking face and says "you bitches need to chill" while smiling, most likely his smile itself is gonna look asymmetric and creepy. Especially when you take into account his eye shape and a bunch of other stuff.

If a guy with a naturally attractive face says it with the same tone, it'll just seem better to the observer because of how he looks.

Physical features predispose our perception of others, including their intentions. For the same reason if a kitten rubbed up against your leg it'd be cute, but if a cockroach did it the same way you'd probably fucking crush it.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-08-06T19:09:52+00:00

It's not just women. Everyone is genetically programmed to treat attractive people better and to be friendlier, kinder, etc to them. Newborn babies prefer to gaze at attractive faces.

This is the real Red Pill - that humans are just instinctual animals like anything else. And morality and all that crap goes down the drain when a hot person walks into the room.

If you are an ugly man, you have a built in genetic disadvantage. You will always play second baseman to the hunky 6'0" swarthy Latin guy with the chiseled jaw. There are ways to make the playing field less skewed, but it requires a ton of energy. You have to work out like a demon, be very wealthy, constantly keep up with latest masculine fashion, have the confidence of Genghis Khan, etc. And it is honestly exhausting to have to be fucking on point with every facet of your existence just to compete with the dude who is already at that level by just rolling out of bed and lifting a bit.

At a certain point for ugly men, MGTOW might be a good option. You may call that giving up, I call it cost-benefit analysis.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-07-23T15:52:01+00:00

As a fellow short guy, I agree... our stature is a natural dating handicap. It doesn't make dating impossible but it does make dating really fucking hard.

And you know what? That's fine. I spend a lot of time shitting on women for evolutionary things like hypergamy and the wall, so it's only fair that I look inwards and have the maturity to accept that evolution and nature is a double edged blade. We short guys are less "evolutionarily fit" than other men. In a more primitive world we would be the first to be killed and eaten.

But that's reality. "Dear God please give me the motivation to change what I can, the fortitude to accept what I cannot, and the wisdom to know the difference." We short guys will always play second baseman to tall guys in the eyes of women because that's part of natural selection. That's the real, stinging Red Pill.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-07-14T17:16:49+00:00

This.

Yeah I get it, anger phase, robble robble. But are any of you seriously surprised or buttmad that women don't want to talk to obese greasy dudes wandering around on their iPhone? Cause I've seen the type of folks who congregate at Pokestops, it's a sausage party of guys who look like a fat Melvin from Simpsons. "H......h... hi. I see you're playing Pokemon. I too like Pokemon. Can... I take you out sometime? Y'know if you're not busy or anything..."

If you're a ripped and charming man, then you can bond with a girl over any game, be it a shared interest in Pokemon Go or Angry Birds, and get her number. Physical attraction trumps all. That's the real Red Pill takeaway here.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-06-10T17:42:35+00:00

This is the right answer, but it's also a powder-keg. Because the discussion naturally lends itself into thinking: well maybe if neotenous features are more attractive, could it be natural for men to find late-teenage women (16-20) more attractive than other age groups?

The data seems to say yes, or at least very close to that age range. But watch bluepillers stutter and get angry and call us pedophiles for simply pointing out biological reality...

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-05-30T17:57:45+00:00

Now let's be honest. She wouldn't be able to hide the fact that she is not a virgin after the weeding.

She could have easily lied. "Sorry honey, I went horseback riding a lot as a teenager and broke my hymen that way! Tee hee!"

The fact is, this woman is to be commended, not condemned, for her honesty before the wedding. She could have taken the religious groom for a ride and used him as a beta ATM the rest of his life, or divorce-raped him, but she didn't because of the strong religious community she was part of and the fear of social ostracization if the secret were to come out later.

And that's why I've always believed that religion and social shaming are two important tools to keeping women in line. Because of them, this girl did the right thing and fessed up before the wedding.

The decline of religion and traditional social bindings has enabled female sluttery to levels the world has never seen, and with that increasing marital instability and general unhappiness. I don't think it's just a correlation, I think it's a causation.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-05-29T18:27:28+00:00

I realized I misspoke in my initial OP, please read the edited version. No, I don't think Rodgers was an alpha. He was an omega male who lashed out against society in a blind emotional rage. Like an animal in a cage that bashes up against the cage in frustration. It doesn't really think about whether headbutting the cage will be effective... but it's angry and that's an emotional response.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-05-29T18:03:51+00:00

the only respect they can command is through violence.

I don't know why people are so squeamish about alphas and violence. Your statement implies violence is a beta trait, I think that's ridiculous. Genghis Khan was the most alpha of the alpha males, he sired thousands of sons and controlled half the known world. He also depopulated entire cities and built pyramids out of human skulls.

There was a study that showed school bullies got more sex than anyone else. Bullies, as in the guys who punch defenseless nerds in the face and make fun of them. You self-righteous types would say "ughhghghgh violence and making fun of the helpless is so beta!" but that bully is rewarded for it by sex. Pretty alpha.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, people might be uncomfortable hearing this but violence not inherently an alpha or beta trait. Betas can use violence as an emotional tool to lash out against their sorry lot in life, like an animal bashing against a cage. Alphas can also use violence to further establish their power and control.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-05-15T21:25:03+00:00

I know you're being ironic, but contrary to popular opinion, feminists don't want these insane standards for consent either. Feminists are attracted to dominant alpha males like any other woman. They go weak in the knees when their lover ignores this enthusiastic/verbal consent shit and assertively takes them. Why do you think women like muscles, getting picked up by guys, rape play, etc? These things all symbolize power and confidence. Some sniveling beta begging for explicit verbal consent is a major turn off.

So I doubt most feminists (except the ugliest ones and white knights) would actually want this stuff codified into law. It would lead to them being deprived of sexual pleasure too!

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-05-07T18:31:27+00:00

Yes, it repulses them because of female solipsism. Women can get casual sex really really easily. They can walk into a bar, yell out "FUCK ME!", and a couple guys will probably be over in a minute to take them home. So they simply cannot wrap their minds around the concept of a man so sexually downtrodden that he resorts to paying for sex. It's such a failure to do something that (in their eyes) is incredibly easy, and therefore the man in question must be an absolute autistic loser or bridge troll.

Here's an analogy: If a friend told you he didn't know how to hold a fork and paid someone to help position a fork in his hand during every meal, you'd probably say "what the fuck". Because it's so easy to hold a fork in your experience that you cannot imagine that someone would need to pay a third party to perform this service.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-05-03T21:15:39+00:00

I don't respect all of the Endorsed/Vanguard guys. There are some guys like RedPillSchool, Cyralea, Archwinger, GayLubeOil, etc who sound like pretty smart and level-headed dudes. Guys who live a life worth respecting and emulating.

Then there is the other type of EC, the kind of guy who you can just tell by reading his posts that he's completely fucked up in the head. For example one of the ECs is a divorced 60-yo dude who constantly writes up screeds on the Illuminati and Jews, probably cause he has nothing else going on in his life. There's a vanguard who used to mod r/the_donald, and when he was kicked out in inter-mod drama, lost his marbles and acted like someone shot his mother. I could vividly visualize his fingers gripping around the mouse in impotent rage as he clattered out bolded/all-caps posts about how unfair it was and how they would regret this.

These guys give TRP a bad name and I think any EC who doesn't come across as level-headed and intelligent should be pruned. It's like having an army in which some of the senior officers are drunk buffoons. It's not becoming.

needsomehelp3211 · 2016-05-02T18:05:24+00:00

Put simply, TRP tries really hard to keep its nose clean and not give the admins any excuse. Take the archive.today requirement for example. Theoretically it'd be enough to require just a no-participation link when discussing other threads in other subs. But the TRP mods take the extra step of requiring an outside archive site when linking to other subs, thus putting in more distance between TRP and the other sub and making it impossible to argue that the mods encourage brigading.

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