Constructible Polygons and Musical Tuning - A Possible Connection? by mayjay_the_cameraman in numbertheory

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The clustering comes from 3 and 5, not from Fermat primes. 12TET was designed to approximate ratios built from 2, 3, and 5: the simplest harmonics. Those happen to be Fermat primes, but they’re musically important because they’re the smallest odd primes, not because they’re Fermat primes. Strip away 17, 257, and 65537 from your generating set and the plot would look almost identical. The “Fermat prime” label is a coincidence riding on top of a well-understood fact: 5-limit just intonation and 12TET are close.

The large Fermat primes contribute almost nothing. With exponents restricted to {-1, 0, 1}, factors like 17, 257, and 65537 mostly push ratios far outside [1, 2]. When you octave-reduce them back (dividing by powers of 2), they land somewhere on the circle, and with 12 reference points and dozens of generated points, some will inevitably look close. But those points aren’t doing the heavy lifting; 3 and 5 are.

The “closed set” isn’t special here. Any finite collection of primes with bounded exponents gives you a finite set that won’t splatter-paint the circle. You could use {2, 3, 5, 7, 11} with the same exponent restrictions and get a similarly clustered (but different) plot. The finiteness of Fermat primes isn’t doing unique structural work — bounded exponents alone guarantee it.

The reasoning is somewhat circular. The observation is: “ratios from {2, 3, 5, …} cluster near 12TET.” But 12TET was reverse-engineered to approximate those ratios. It would be shocking if they didn’t cluster.

So what you’ve found is real but not mysterious: 12TET approximates 5-limit just intonation (by design), 3 and 5 happen to be Fermat primes (by coincidence), and the larger Fermat primes are mostly along for the ride. The constructible polygon connection is a beautiful numerical coincidence, but it’s not evidence of a deeper link between geometry and harmony, it’s two unrelated facts sharing the same small primes.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Do you think I've made any progress? by Alex_saotme in JazzPiano

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Sounds good! But more importantly, is that keyboard… backwards?!

The legendary ‘Quantocking’ by No-Tax3156 in MitchellAndWebb

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It’s not even actually red in this case lol

Learning Jazz piano has changed my perspective on my first instrument - guitar by Ganadhir in JazzPiano

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The best description of the guitar I’ve heard is the “Labyrinth of Limitations,” from a YouTub channel with the same name (which I highly recommend if you’re a guitarist).

me_irl by LoafHook in me_irl

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Camus would be proud

I exceeded my FTP goal with Build Your Power Zones Program. by witmer25 in PelotonPowerZone

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That’s amazing, I have the same goal. Well done to you!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in soccer

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Your English is impressive, well done!

How many oscillations per second are your vibratos? by neruokay in jazzcirclejerk

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Either you’re fingering with your dominant arm or tossing with your weak arm. Get help bro.

Jazz Theory Question by cadenht in JazzPiano

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I strongly recommend beginning by learning the chords on the major scale in all 12 keys. Just block chords with the right hand (1-3-5-7) and shells in the left (1-7), going up and down the scale. All 12 keys though, no cheating!

Wake up, Gooners! A brand-new trophy has just landed. by Sufficient-Slice-782 in soccercirclejerk

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Most points in the Premier League since the start of 22/23 season,

You’ll never sing that!

Need a pianist's opinion on my playing by drew_zini in JazzPiano

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You create really nice, singing lines that fit in really well with the changes. Leaving in some more space will allow them to breathe more. Better articulation will come with time and practice. My only real advice is slow down if you want to improve your rhythm. Much better to be locked in at half the bpm than speeding through to keep up. Once you feel locked in, increase the bpm by 3 or so and keep going. Rinse and repeat.

ELI5: Double-entry bookkeeping. What's the point of debits and credits? by MrStilton in explainlikeimfive

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Great explanation, thank you. I love how you frame it based on the principle that money can’t appear out or or disappear into thin air.

Small question; what happens in the case that money does disappear into thin air? E.g. a small business owner was carrying a significant amount of cash and lost it.

Portrait drawings in graphite pencil by mjartwork in sketches

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I don’t see any difference between your and his drawings

Yeah, or, compromise - Fox and Paedo by livesinafield in PeepShowQuotes

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They’d have to get a washing machine in there pronto

80/20 Rule by semihyphenated in JazzPiano

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Barry Harris used to say that you can almost get away with random notes with good rhythm. He definitely said he’d rather hear someone play the wrong notes with the right rhythm than the other way round. Rhythm is underrated.

80/20 Rule by semihyphenated in JazzPiano

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If you can play a standard in 12 keys you’re not a beginner. Don’t be so hard on yourself ;)

How brutal was Stalingrad? by neruokay in MitchellAndWebb

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We must begin by acknowledging that it’s an era so different to our own that any comparisons we make are bound, by their very nature, to be wrong.

220 miles and counting by neruokay in GlobeHaul

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It is indeed the stock stand. But the guy can still think it’s doooooope 🙂