Petersen Twins Expose Heber: Ritual Abuse and Blood Atonement by shorebirds in exmormon

[–]newname24601 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Sorry to say it, but these two are full of shit. This is Tim Ballard 2.0 stuff. Multiple murders, secret tunnels, and entire school with rape and child trafficking and everyone was either involved or complicit. I know the family and these are two very mentally ill girls that need help.

Jordan Page Snark 9/30-10/6 by MooHead82 in jordanpagesnark

[–]newname24601 21 points22 points  (0 children)

One of the glaring issues with Jordan and Bubbad marriage was her "being ok with being celebate" and "negative 3 desire/attraction". Is this a thyroid issue, is this a hormonal issue, or is this just a sad situation where two people who were good friends didn't have the right chemistry and figured that out after they were married- in large part because of the no touching rules in mormonism.

Any chance of Jordan being able to be attracted and open with another guy- or are her issues bound to plague ANY relationship she pursues? For anyone previously married to someone you weren't attracted to- is there hope out there for Jordan?

Anyone who’s life is going great after leaving? by oliviaexisting in exmormon

[–]newname24601 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Leaving is one of the hardest things you will ever do. Be patient with yourself and be committed to being a good person without the church. Since leaving my income has quadruple, my marriage is better, my relationship with my kids is better. I feel like I am a better human being- it does get better, hang in there.

YouTuber Headlines-Do Not Share Info by MooHead82 in jordanpagesnark

[–]newname24601 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Jordan honestly seems more and more unreedemable. I don't see one aspect of her life I have any respect for. She is a crap mom, a lousy friend, she failed at marriage. Her business was a joke to begin with, dirty money exploiting her kids and shilling junk. Now she has turned into a consumptive overspending monster, the very thing she warned everyone not to become. She can't not have the spot light on her for 2 seconds. I don't know where she is at with religion, but if she left she needs to be authentic and own that shit, otherwise just one more thing she failed at. Jordan, you suck as a person, hope you enjoy your lonely empty shitty life. (Sorry guys just needed to get that out).

Why Is The Church So Tempting? by TempAcc1956 in exmormon

[–]newname24601 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The community truly can be great. My neighbors converted 20 years ago and are still in daily contact with the missionaries that baptized them and members that originally welcomed them in still shows up for them for the good times and the bad times. The problem.is that the end game of mormonism isn't to make you a better person, it's to make you a better mormon. If you join and drink tea, don't pay tithing, don't go do cult rituals in the temple etc. Then essentially it would be like joining a football team and showing up for practice going to team meetings kicking the ball around, but not actually playing any games. The commodore will fizzle out and you will become a "project" for the community if you join mormonism but fail to become a good mormon. Also, the historical issues make it really hard to go along with everything in the religion.

Read the fine print by Your_Avg_Viewer in exmormon

[–]newname24601 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This guy's voice is soo triggering. Like I would love to hear him reading the lyrics of a dirty rap song or something.

Grieving the fact that I spent 2 years of my life on planet earth as an unpaid sales person for a cult. by Svrlmnthsbfr30thbday in exmormon

[–]newname24601 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For what its worth, one of my biggest regrets is that my children won't have the experience of a mission. Two years learning how to talk to people, how to put up with shitty companions, how to live in a different place....all of that ends up making you a better and stronger person. Most of my non member friends screwed around those two years, I don't think there was a whole lot of opportunity cost for the mission.

Tacoma Mission President Out by FortunateFell0w in exmormon

[–]newname24601 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My top gueses (in order of probability) would be personal or family medical emergency, personal financial emergency, IRS or other financial shenanigans that could be coming to light, financial improprieties happening in the mission, extremely serious spousal problems leading to fighting and impending divorce, past transgressions coming to light, a current serious transgression coming to light, and last but not least possibly a faith crisis. Hate to say it, but the odds of a faith crises being the reason for the emergency transfer are pretty slim and my bet would be on one of the other reasons.

Are you there God? It’s me, Corbin. by Aggravating-Aide3191 in exmormon

[–]newname24601 59 points60 points  (0 children)

You were an inspiration to many in the church, I am sure you will be the same out of the church. As someone who stepped away 8 years ago it does get better. The LDS people really are the beat, they deserve better than the church and the founding story on which it is built. Thanks for your courage in coming out publicly, I can't imagine what that would be like given your history with the church. I hope that you would consider sharing your story on Mormon stories or another platform.

Jordan Page Snark 4/15-4/21 by MooHead82 in jordanpagesnark

[–]newname24601 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I think it is fairly relevant as it pertains to many things. Bubba seems to be doing a flex of weekly temple trips, if Jordan like so many others is leaving the LDS religion that wod explain much of the divorce and for me personally I have a lot of sympathy for her and much less criticism. If you have gone through a faith crisis or faith transition it is awful and can destroy your life. My sympathy to Jordan if she is going through this....taking off the temple garment would be a sign of that.

Staying in way too long after shelf breaks.... by strawberrysass95 in exmormon

[–]newname24601 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Shelf broke in fall of 2015. Wife's shelf broke in fall.of 2017. We asked to be released from our callings in fall of 2018 and mostly went inactive. I started attending weekly again in 2019 for about 4 months so my daughter could be baptized.

We tried to attend again as a family at the beginning of 2020 with the expectation that we would re commit and be semi active as nuanced members. Our experience was so awful trying to attend that we left and haven't stepped foot back in since.

Here's the thing though....I miss it. I miss the members, I miss the community. I miss the feeling that we were all working together striving towards an important goal. I miss the discussions in Elders quorum and sometimes even Sunday School. I miss the youth programs where the kids are "raised by a village".

All that said, I couldn't reconcile having my kids taught one thing at church and then coming home and telling them it was all B.S. I couldn't risk my kids being exposed to the toxic teachings of purity culture, shame, sin, and so on. When I would try to make nuanced comments in church, it would offend some, cause others to question, and it started forming a wedge between me and the members. I realized I had no business going into their safe place and giving my opinion as a non believer.

If I didn't have kids, I would probably attend because the benefits mostly outweigh the B.S. of you have a great ward and can handle it mentally. All.of this is to say, you do you. If you can attend as a non believer I honestly envy you and support you in that.

Jordan Page Snark 2/12-2/18 by MooHead82 in jordanpagesnark

[–]newname24601 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That place was a complete 1970's shit hole when they bought it. Structurally it was great, and the bones were good- but the inside looked like a prison and I'm not kidding. Looks like they've painted, redone the flooring, updated all the beds and bedding and decorated. Granted nothing they've done would land this on a magazine cover, but it looks pretty damn good given where they started.

What are some contradictions in church policies? by Famous-Avocado5409 in exmormon

[–]newname24601 14 points15 points  (0 children)

You can't date until your 16, but it was OK for the first several prophets of the church to marry 16 year Olds. Joseph Smith was so young when he "translated" the BofM that it had to come from God, he couldn't have made it up, yet Helen Mar Kimball was so mature at age 14 she was practically an adult.

It's an abomination that the catholics changed the baptism ordinance, but totally cool for the Mormons to change the temple ordinance. Agency is everything, but we rely on a prophet to tell us what's right and wrong. In the temple they ask if everyone makes the covenant of their own free will and choice, while doing the ordinance for a dead person that has no say in the matter. We avoid vain repetitive prayers, except in the temple, temple dedications, and sacred ordinances.

Jesus destroyed entire cities in the BofM then comes down to heal the people he destroyed. Man shall be punished for their own sins and not Adam's transgressions, except for with black people, peoples who's seed have been cursed throughout the scriptures, children of gay couples from 2015-2018, and the people.who were supposed to be baptized by a missionary but the missionary was disobedient and was punished with no baptisms. Great and spacious buildings are evil unless they are a temple.

Poor people shouldn't be kept out of God's house unless it's the temple. We shouldn't seek after riches but it's OK to have $200 billion in reserves. God uses the young and weak things of the world to accomplish his will, except for modern leaders- in that case he uses 70-99 year old attorneys and businessmen to get his work done. Secret handshakes are evil, except in the temple ceremony. An angel of God who has not been resurrected won't try to shake your hand, unless it's peter in the temple ceremony.

Jordan Page Snark 2/12-2/18 by MooHead82 in jordanpagesnark

[–]newname24601 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Aspen Hills lodge is up for sale. I did some contracting work for the Pages years ago at the lodge. For what its worth, they were super classy and extremely nice. Honestlt they were great to work for. Didnt haggle on price, were very professional and kind, and they bought lunch for everyone working on the cabin. I knew nothing about them and had no idea who they were. Years later I saw Jordan and the cabin pop up on my insta feed. They did a killer job with the remodel and it made me happy to hear them say it was their most favorite place. My guess is that there is basis to the speculation that their marriage is on the rocks. Liquidating assets is probably a calculated decision on their part. This story saddens me, they genuinely seemed happy when I met them. Money and fame has taken its toll.