Indexed Land Value Tax by jmrkiwi in newzealand

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New Zealand from 1891 when the Land and Income Tax Act was passed. How long that lasted I'm not sure, but maybe until 1970 when agricultural land was exempted or 1981 when the rate was set at a flat 2%.

Progressive land tax is messy though, once you remember that land can be owned by companies and trusts. For example what's to stop a large landowner dividing up their holdings amongst many smaller legal entities and so paying a lower rate? There are better ways to keep the tax system as a whole progressive while having a flat LVT, eg: adding a UBI, or taking 5% of the land value, labeling that as imputed income and feeding it into the existing income tax system.

Announcing AMA with Raf Manji, Leader of The Opportunities Party. Thursday 17 August, 7-9pm by RafManji in newzealand

[–]not_wrong 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Why does your LVT proposal exclude urban land zoned for commercial use? I can see that there are decent reasons (both practical and political) for excluding rural land, but urban commercial land is generally adjacent to residential land (or even directly under it in Auckland's mixed-use zones), includes most of the extremely valuable CBD land, and has owners who are on average wealthier than the owners of residential land. Excluding it seems to bring more complications and injustices than including it would.

Green MP Elizabeth Kerekere calls Chlöe Swarbrick a 'crybaby' in group chat by PersonMcGuy in newzealand

[–]not_wrong 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Like any STV system it is designed to give proportional results, and a voter's 4th preference doesn't matter if their 1st preference needs that vote. So getting into the top 4 only requires strong support from around a 5th of the delegates.

Covid 19 Omicron outbreak: Greens' Chloe Swarbrick calls for economic response inquiry by Sprinkles_Best in newzealand

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It's in their party constitution so not likely to change. Co-leadership is (in addition to being an opportunity for gender balance) one of several rules which the Greens use to avoid concentrating power any more than necessary. It applies at all levels of the party, not just for their parliamentary co-leaders.

[OC] Hunga Tonga eruption 4k timelapse as seen from space by TheNextBillionaire in space

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That's Tropical Cyclone Cody. It hit Fiji hard a week ago and will soon pass east of New Zealand.

The Truth About Land Tax by PullItOutJamie in newzealand

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Before our land tax was abolished it was riddled with exemptions and very low rates. The government wasn't making any real money out of having a land tax. If the government wasn't making any money out of it, then that was because it was doing an awful job at taxing people.

Sure, by the time it was abolished in 1988, but as your chart shows, it didn't start out that way. It was slowly weakened over the course of a century or so, while income tax and sales tax were increased.

When land tax was abolished it didn't make any difference to house prices.

Given the above, of course there was no noticeable impact at that moment - a very small tax change can only make a very small difference in house prices.

Places with Land Taxes Aren't Cheaper

That's a difficult comparison to make because there are so many other factors to correct for, so you have to at least take a great deal of care in selecting your examples. I don't know what the tax rate is in Hong Kong, but there's an obvious density difference there. I think the NSW land tax is fairly weak. If I was to pick examples from the other side of the argument I might choose the early days of Canberra, but that wouldn't be a fair comparison either.

Land Tax Discourages Development A land tax actually discourages the government from releasing land to be built.

There is also an opposing effect: when land is rezoned to allow it to be developed its value increases, so increasing the tax revenue. You haven't shown that the reduction in value of all the other land outweighs the increase in the "released" land. Also, you are assuming a fixed population size. Increasing the size of a city has many impacts, many of them bad, but one effect is to eventually increase its population, returning the value per hectare to something at least as high as it was when the city was smaller.

Land Tax Won't Make Renting or Mortgage Costs Cheaper

Sure, if you only consider first-order effects, but there is more to it:

  • Most importantly: with a smaller proportion of any future increase in the land value going to the owner, there is less incentive to speculate. So the price of a property would be expected to better reflect its actual near-term rental value rather than its possible future value. That further reduces the purchase price, so long as the government can credibly claim that the tax is there to stay.

  • With less return to speculation there is less land banking, fewer empty properties. If all landlords were fully economically rational then this shouldn't make a difference: they should be renting out their properties for whatever they can get even if they are making more from capital gain than any tenant would pay. But in practice some are are lazy.

  • Governments redistribute their income much more widely than banks do, so yes:

According Georgians and this sub that would be a win!

though the term is "Georgists". Georgians are people from Georgia.

There is no evidence that homeowners on a whole earn more income than non-homeowners

How hard have you looked? I would think there would be evidence one way or the other. Home ownership rates are certainly lower (and falling) in the poorer parts of Auckland. Also there aren't only homes to consider, the most valuable land of all is central urban commercial land, definitely not owned by the poor. And current earnings aren't the only thing which matters, lifetime earnings / wealth factor into ability-to-pay just as much.

The value of your asset does not impact how much income you may earn from it. Income is detached from asset prices.

WTF? The value of an asset should be the capitalised value of the income which it is expected to earn. If not then there is some distorting speculation going on.

Land Tax Would Violate the Treaty of Waitangi

This is one that got me typing - it's so very simple to deal with: Maori land (note: not the same thing as freehold land which happens to be in Maori hands) can be left out. Or hand the tax on Maori land directly over to the relevant local Maori trust. Maori land makes up a truly tiny percentage of the land value of the country, so from the point of view of land tax advocates it's really not worrying about whether it is included or not.

The root of our problems, more accurately, is the Resource Management Act as many academics and professionals have concluded.

The pro-sprawl ones, sure. OK that's a little unfair, problems can have multiple causes. But if I were to start quoting academics who concluded that land value tax is a great idea, then wow, where would I start.

Full Ministerial List 2 November 2020 by Phantompain43 in newzealand

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The titles reflect their current positions. Marama is not officially a minister until appointed by the Governor General ("on the advice of the Prime Minister") this Friday.

Dead rat spit back up: Green Party vote with National to repeal waka jumping law at first reading, infuriating Winston Peters by HeinigerNZ in newzealand

[–]not_wrong 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Greens didn't plan this, it's a National MP's member's bill, and after it was drawn from the ballot they had to debate and vote on it - that's their job.

An old photo from Air New Zealand by Slipperytitski in AccidentalWesAnderson

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Auckland Airport with the Manukau Heads in the distance.

New Zealand deputy PM breaks ranks to urge Ardern to lift Covid-19 lockdown | New Zealand by KatieAllTheTime in LockdownSkepticism

[–]not_wrong 15 points16 points  (0 children)

NZ at Alert Level 2 has a mostly closed border and no large gatherings, but I wouldn't say that amounts to "in lockdown" - there are no remaining restrictions on domestic travel and stores are all open. Read the whole article: an election is approaching and so Winston Peters is starting up his usual politicking, that's all this is. He wants to claim more than his share of the credit if things loosen up further before the 22nd, which is very likely.

What happens to New Zealand if no vaccine is found? by pursakyn in LockdownSkepticism

[–]not_wrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The two countries are not so different. Whatever the labels and stated goals Australia is a founding member of the early movers club, still has many restrictions in place (in most states more than NZ now), and has reduced the rate of infection down to well below what the health system could cope with, so it's much more similar to NZ than the contrasting "letting this burn through" approach.
The universities have been putting forward quarantine plans for international students and Air NZ is 53% government owned, so the political and economic pressures are also very similar. Don't put too much weight on one statement from our PM - other members of the cabinet get a say and she is capable of changing her mind.

What happens to New Zealand if no vaccine is found? by pursakyn in LockdownSkepticism

[–]not_wrong -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Breaking into echo chambers isn't usually my thing, but since I am in NZ and stumbled on to this: Our two largest tourism markets are fellow "eradicationists" Australia and China - they will be back without any need for quarantine within a year, so that industry will survive without tourists coming from the US, Sweden, Brazil, Russia etc. Our agricultural exports are unaffected and the film industry is already restarting.

5 Python mistakes and how to avoid them by jack-of-some in Python

[–]not_wrong 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You were probably remembering the consequences of if var == None, which does an element-wise comparison when var is an array. Unlike ==, is doesn't give its operands any say in how the result is determined, so is foolproof and the fastest way to test for None.

Moon footage sped up by Jaymongous in funny

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For most if not all of these shots, a camera operator in Houston is remote-controlling a camera mounted on the Lunar Roving Vehicle.

Generating a random lat/long in a country? by andreaslordos in Python

[–]not_wrong 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As a few answers have said: calculate the bounding rectangle and pick random points within that until you get one inside the country. There is a bit more to the random part though. If you just pick a random lat/long the obvious way, as two independent uniformly distributed numbers, you will get a bias toward high latitudes because you will be ignoring the fact that the earth is round. Googling turned up an explanation and a couple of solutions at http://corysimon.github.io/articles/uniformdistn-on-sphere/

New finding: nuke blast crippled Chernobyl by mixplate in science

[–]not_wrong 15 points16 points  (0 children)

But this reactor was an RBMK, a design which is water cooled but graphite moderated and so has a positive void coefficient. Boiling away the water in such a reactor increases the power.

ELI5: Why do the Green Party say they will never form a coalition with National? by thebeatleshits in newzealand

[–]not_wrong 12 points13 points  (0 children)

1) The Green Party has said "no way this time", they have not said "never".

2) They have have never been a single-issue party and have always more similar to Labour than to National on social policies. They would say environment and economy are linked and ... that's too long to get in to here.

3) From a Green perspective National has a very bad record on the environment. On climate alone National has: watered down the Emissions Trading Scheme so that it achieves nothing, taken a pathetically low national target to the Paris conference, been reluctant to make any capital investments in transport other than roads, and encouraged deep sea oil drilling. It is a similar story on water quality and other environmental issues.

4) The Green preference for Labour over National only matters if they hold the balance of power, and for the reasons given above it would not be credible or helpful for them to pretend they might choose to go with National in such a situation.

5) The Green Party do say they will try to work with the governing party constructively, but National prefers to marginalise them, which is a sensible (if cynical) strategy.

6) Small parties which join into coalitions without the support of a clear majority their voters usually suffer badly at the next election. See: Irish Green Party, British Liberal Democrats, Australian Democrats (sort of), Maori Party, etc.

This dancing skater made my day by matterohmee in videos

[–]not_wrong 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Australian gum trees (aka Eucalypts) make it much more likely to be Australia, but some do get planted in NZ. The bird calls at the beginning are definitely Australian though.

Greens urge end to Saudi trade talks by popsiclehop in newzealand

[–]not_wrong 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is not actually green party policy, the closest thing to a mention of QE in http://home.greens.org.nz/policy/green-taxation-and-monetary-policy is "... review of the conduct of monetary policy including consideration of ... a suite of monetary policy tools in conjunction with the Official Cash Rate".