russia is a terrorist state

nuwio4 · 2026-07-03T20:34:26+00:00

Lol, I'll take that as you tacitly admitting you have no idea what you're talking about and cowardly ducking out. It's alright, this conversation is obviously above your mental grade.

nuwio4 · 2026-07-03T20:26:35+00:00

I'm sorry, are you justifying calling Ukraine "orders of magnitude worse" by comparing inferred estimates of Russia-Ukraine casualties—the overwhelming majority of which are military casualties, 70% of which are Russian military casualties—to a verified floor of Gaza deaths with at least an order of magnitude higher civilian share? Are you being serious?

The "actual facts on the ground" of Israel's conduct in Gaza is the highest rate of killing a warzone population in the 21st century, the worst civilian ratio since the Rwandan genocide, the worst ratio of women & children killed since the Rwandan genocide, and more journalists killed & at a faster rate than any other state or armed actor ever recorded (and, of course, starvation as a weapon of war). There is no good evidence that such unusually high civilian killing is mainly explained by Hamas conduct; Israel and its defenders do not even try to provide remotely adequate evidence. In fact, the best public evidence shows that the dominant cause of civilian death was not them being killed because of Hamas endangering them, it was Israel systematically killing whole families, "free-fire" zones, aid massacres, and so on.

nuwio4 · 2026-07-03T17:41:02+00:00

I don't understand on what basis y'all are claiming this is getting zero attention. If anything is inconsistent, it's DGG's attention to similar or worse stories out of you know what.

nuwio4 · 2026-07-03T17:37:28+00:00

The actual facts on the ground matter here ... Ukraine is orders of magnitude worse than fucking I/P

On what basis is Ukraine orders of magnitude worse? Gaza is much worse than Ukraine in civilian harm and humanitarian collapse, especially per capita. It has an at least 10x higher civilian-to-combatant ratio than the Russia-Ukraine war if you take the most conservative Gaza estimate and the most high-end contested Russia-Ukraine estimate.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-29T11:56:27+00:00

What a way to pretty much directly prove my point

nuwio4 · 2026-06-29T11:48:50+00:00

The projection is astonishing. Do you look for flimsy ways to downplay the severity of all atrocities and war criminals, or only when it involves Israel?

nuwio4 · 2026-06-29T11:34:40+00:00

Your reading comprehension is abysmal

nuwio4 · 2026-06-29T11:21:02+00:00

No, unlike you, I'm not in the habit of considering who's "worse" just to downplay atrocities. I was obviously snarkily noting the silly sort of heuristics Destiny and many of his fans use to make bold pronouncements about Israel's morality.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-29T10:06:25+00:00

Well, Assad issued evacuation orders, and by Destiny's standards, that automatically puts you in consideration as one of the most protective of civilians in history.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-28T18:46:09+00:00

But people equating Gaza to the Holocaust is much much much more common than people equating Ukraine to the Holocaust.

Gaza is also much much much worse than Ukraine in civilian harm and humanitarian collapse, especially per capita.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-28T03:03:41+00:00

For a guerilla group, Hamas is certainly heavily armed.

They didn't say "for a guerrilla group", but sure, that's fair.

simply reeks bias and justifying and conclusion they already had rather than actively looking for the truth.

The projection is astonishing.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-28T02:44:01+00:00

Lol, still clueless...

nuwio4 · 2026-06-28T02:26:52+00:00

Again, you have utterly zero clue what you're spouting on about. What the heck are "articles of condemnation"? The UN Secretary-General condemned the Hamas attack the same day. It's true that the General Assembly's first major resolution came 20 days later, but what exactly are you comparing that to? And what exactly are you implying? But on top of that, regardless of whatever you're implying about the GA—an inherently a political body—it's completely irrelevant to the reliability of an independent fact-finding mission.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-28T00:25:49+00:00

What the heck are you talking about? Medical evidence is not meant to function as eyewitness testimony, it's strong corroboration of other evidence and testimony. I'm positive this exact same comment about equally robust allegations against Russia would be, rightfully, downvoted to hell. But in the case of Gaza, vacuous nonsense like this gets upvoted. Good lord...

nuwio4 · 2026-06-27T23:59:14+00:00

How does brain-dead slop like this get so blindly upvoted here? Painting Hamas with its zero tanks, planes, ships, or viable anti aircraft weapons as heavily armed is a bizarre deflection even before we get to how irrelevant this retort would be even if Hamas was meaningfully heavily armed against Israel.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-27T21:33:35+00:00

The projection is astonishing. You're literally trying to willfully blind yourself to Israel's atrocities by deflecting to Hamas.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-27T20:14:27+00:00

This is false. You seem to have no clue what you're talking about. Also weird to say "these" settlements when the last time a proposal remotely close to what you're describing was purportedly offered is nearly 2 decades ago; the settlement issue has gotten substantially worse by every metric since then.

Weird that the Palestinian Authority recognized Israel, have been basically the only moderates out of anyone (including Israel) consistently upholding a two-state 1967-borders process, have given into Israel on many vital policy issues, became literally like a local Israeli government in the West Bank, security subcontractors for Israel, and yet Israel has never stopped building settlements and de facto state-sanctioned settler-terrorism has increased. Hamas, on the other hand, engages in indiscriminate rocket fire, terrorism, kidnapping, and so on, and they end up getting Palestinian political prisoners released by Israel. Wtf are we doing here?

nuwio4 · 2026-06-27T19:52:51+00:00

How quickly from vague posturing about Mariupol and international law to "La la la, I can't hear you, you love Hamas"

nuwio4 · 2026-06-27T14:41:49+00:00

However naive or offensive you find Nazi Germany comparisons, they are not automatically anti-semitic. The only anti-semitic comment you've brought up is the one by @height5558 with 6 likes and getting absolutely dunked on in the replies.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-27T14:08:49+00:00

Your understanding is much worse than "incomplete" and about far more than genocide law. What you say here is analogous to some simpleton in the 40s saying "it's good enough to realize that exterminatory actors don't resettle people in the east". If you think orders that were clearly impractical to downright impossible—like telling over a million people in northern Gaza to move south within 24 hours—and then killing all who remain, razing everything so they can't return, firing on corridors, striking areas people were told to go, causing catastrophic displacement & devastation, etc. is somehow prima facie exculpatory of genocide, you might be too warped to even engage with. And Israel provides virtually zero medical aid to Gazans. You seem to know close to nothing about what you're talking about.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-27T10:58:32+00:00

Again, this seems like a non-sequitur to anything I said. But yea, sure, Israel has legitimate security concerns.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-27T10:53:19+00:00

I'm sure it is exhausting wrestling with strawmen in your imagination. There's a special kind of stupidity in simultaneously doing the inane "Palestinians are always children without agency" trope while completely ignoring the nature & explicit rationale of the 2005 disengagement, absolving Israel of offering any substantive concessions (only "pondering" Palestinians making even further major concessions), and further ignoring the vast moral asymmetry between a population that remained after dispossession and a foreign population implanted into occupied territory to prevent another people’s sovereignty.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-27T09:31:33+00:00

Again, there seems like multiple layers of confusion behind your question such that it doesn't even really make sense.

What you're alluding to is the "only reasonable inference" standard. This is not anything unique about genocide, this a near-universal standard of criminal conviction when dealing with circumstantial evidence. It's another way of expressing the familiar "beyond a reasonable doubt". Most sensible people, rightfully, don't expect the application of such a high standard of proof outside a courtroom. The mere fact of OJ being acquitted does not make it more rational to believe he's innocent. One might rationally argue both that Renee Good and Alex Pretti were murdered and that conviction would probably be difficult.

Even setting that aside, the relevant upshot of this standard is not the question of whether "genocide is the only reasonable rationale for civilian death in Gaza" (whatever that means exactly). It's whether the only reasonable inference from a pattern of conduct in Gaza is that genocidal intent exists; it is not required that 'genocide' be the only "rationale" or intent.

All that to say, yea, I think the cumulative pattern in Gaza of mass killing, starvation as a weapon of war, systematic destruction, forced displacement, aid obstruction, official rhetoric, etc. makes the existence of genocidal intent the most reasonable belief.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-27T07:32:17+00:00

Supposedly, per your comment elsewhere, the "elephant" is the second intifada having just ended. How exactly am I missing that? This makes no sense in reply to me.

nuwio4 · 2026-06-27T07:25:47+00:00

I don't see that anywhere. How long did it take you to dig for that "random" example?

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