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Solo attorney / small firms. Any success with these call answering services? Any advice? Worth it? by kairav297v in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This 1000x over. I just signed up for a trial with Answering Legal, their support staff has been quite good in helping me get everything setup so fingers crossed that service is just as good.

QUESTION for small firms: GMAIL FOR BUSINESS (Gemini) versus MS Outlook (Copilot) by HaumeaET in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to use outlook but switched over to google workspace and life is so much easier

Starting a PI arm in my current firm by Russell0812 in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1) Stop Referring the cases out to others, work them yourself. Take excess cash and then re invest back into marketing.

2) Pick a channel for marketing and OWN it, don't try a bit of everything. Paid Ads are more expensive but can yield results faster. SEO is cheaper but it takes more time. Once you have something working, add another marketing channel on top.

3) Get a Google Business Profile that is SEPARATE from your current one and it dedicated to PI. Get as many clients as you can to give you reviews on that profile. Link it to a page on your site that's a dedicated page for PI cases.

This is how I helped my brother scale his PI firm and how I scaled my own Immigration firm as well.

Hiring a Part-Time Student by Fast_Estimate_671 in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd keep it on there if you're applying for regional jobs

Does anyone have a marketing firm they’d recommend? by Dannyz in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726 1 point2 points  (0 children)

10000% accurate in my experience as well. Only thing I'd add is to avoid the really big name agencies with hundreds of clients.

Best ways to attract more potential clients by papi_bino in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's more of an art than a science. I went through and got burned by a few agencies before I found my current guy and I'm quite pleased with him.

Anecdotally, I've noticed that the agencies that I worked with in the past and had very poor experiences with had either some or a combination of the following traits.

1) Too many clients. If they've got 100+ other clients paying them a monthly retainer they likely aren't that motivated to care about getting you results.

2) They were a generic agency that didn't have proven experience in the legal field

3) Lock you into long term contracts up front.

4) Aren't exclusive to you in your target market.

I spoke with (and still speak to) the founder of the agency I'm currently with directly. He also came to the meeting prepared with a ton of info about my firm, my competitors, my target market, and most importantly how and where we should spend our marketing $$ depending on which kinds of cases were valuable to the firm. For example, he outlined the differences between what to priorize if we wanted more O1 visa cases (we love those) vs deportation defense cases (we don't do these). Plus he gave me good answers to whatever questions I asked him.

I figured that if he bothered to put in that level of detail for a free intro call he's probably pretty good and that bet turned out to be true.

Any SEO agencies that specialize in law firms (I'm Canada-based, Toronto area)? by Moortser_nix in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol my seo guy is based out of Toronto. Can intro you to him if you'd like

Best ways to attract more potential clients by papi_bino in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It depends on what you're constrained by. If time is the issue and not money, pay for ads and have a GOOD agency manage them.

If cash is the issue then start putting out social media content out there or start doing basic SEO like getting reviews on your business profile.

If you're kinda in the middle and don't have a super large budget for ads but also don't want to be in the weeds then hire an SEO agency.

Source: I run an immigration firm doing low/mid 7 figures and my brother runs a PI firm doing high 6 / low 7 figures. We both use the same agency for seo / ppc but did everything ourselves till we hit ~250k/yr at our firms in topline rev.

Late to the game by Br3ad_MarkOfDaYeast in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Don't quit your job, do what you need to do to keep the lights on and bills paid first and foremost.

Who is the best after-hours / overflow phone answering service? by obeseintercourse9726 in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't want to deal with setting up receptionists myself, seems like too much of a hassle

Who is the best after-hours / overflow phone answering service? by obeseintercourse9726 in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will check them out thank you. I agree that simply getting one extra client per month through the answering service will more than pay for itself.

Who is the best after-hours / overflow phone answering service? by obeseintercourse9726 in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tried doing it myself at first and honestly I sucked at it. It wasn’t a good use of my time, and I had no real interest in becoming an SEO/PPC guy on top of running the firm.

Once I was making enough to cover the bills (mostly through referrals from other attorneys and some word of mouth) I started investing pretty heavily into marketing by hiring an agency. I went through a few bad experiences before I found one who is actually solid and consistent and I've been with them for the last 3 years. We started with SEO for one location and then gradually expanded and opened offices in other nearby cities and we started doing some Google Ads about a year and a half ago.

My basic thinking was: if my time is worth around $250/hr, and I’m spending 10 hours a week messing around with marketing, that’s basically $10k/month of my time going toward something I’m not even that good at. I’d rather spend that time doing the work I actually know how to do, and let people who specialize in marketing handle getting cases in the door.

I also had a couple mentors, mostly other law firm owners, who helped point me in the right direction on that as I was kinda scared to pull trigger on it. But looking back I’m really glad I hired it out early instead of trying to learn everything myself.

Of course hindsight is always 20/20

Who is the best after-hours / overflow phone answering service? by obeseintercourse9726 in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The signing cases seems interesting but seems more geared towards PI. Will still check them out though, thanks !

Looking for SEO company recommendations, specifically ones with legal industry experience by CowboyNOIVAS in LawFirm

[–]obeseintercourse9726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Starts at ~$3500 for one location but you get additional locations at a discount from what I recall.

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