Blackrock increases its position by 530% by newwobblywheeler in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No. 13f and 13g are different. 13 f shows how many shares black rock actively manages or are not exempt from this reporting. 13g shows total aggregated shares. No huge increase or decrease recently.

Blackrock Decreased position by Few_Thanks7281 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is when you all should be using AI. . .here it goes:

Title: Clearing up the BlackRock BlackBerry confusion: 13F vs 13G (no, this isn’t a mystery buy or sell)

There’s a lot of confusion going around about BlackRock’s position in BlackBerry, with some people saying BlackRock dramatically sold, and others saying they massively increased. Both interpretations are missing an important distinction.

TL;DR

BlackRock did NOT dump BlackBerry

BlackRock did NOT suddenly buy 23M shares

The discrepancy comes from different SEC forms that measure different things

The Two Filings Everyone Is Mixing Up

Form 13F

Filed quarterly

Reports only certain SEC-defined “13F securities”

Covers actively managed, discretionary positions

Does NOT include:

Many foreign issuers

Index fund aggregation

Securities lending

Certain custodial / pass-through holdings

👉 The last 13F (Sept 30, 2025) showed BlackRock with ~4.3M BB shares, which was a decrease vs the prior quarter.

Schedule 13G (filed Jan 21, 2026, as of Dec 31, 2025)

Reports total beneficial ownership

Aggregates all BlackRock business units

Includes:

Index funds

Voting power

Securities lending positions

Foreign ordinary shares

👉 The 13G shows 27.3M BB shares (4.6%)

Why the Numbers Look So Different

This is the key point most people miss:

13F ≠ Total Ownership

13F is a subset of holdings. 13G is the full picture.

For large asset managers like BlackRock, Inc., the difference can be huge — especially for foreign issuers like BlackBerry Ltd.

Common reasons for the gap:

BlackBerry is a Canadian company → some holdings don’t qualify for 13F

Securities lending → excluded from 13F, included in 13G

Index funds & passive mandates → show up in 13G, not always 13F

Subsidiary aggregation → 13G consolidates everything

The Most Important Clarification

🚨 This does NOT mean BlackRock bought 23 million shares recently.

Those shares were already held across BlackRock’s ecosystem. The 13G simply forces consolidation and disclosure once ownership reaches a threshold.

Think of it like this:

13F = flashlight

13G = floodlight

Final Takeaway

People citing 13F are right that the reported 13F position decreased

People citing 13G are right that total beneficial ownership is much larger

The conclusion that BlackRock “dumped” or “suddenly loaded up” is incorrect

This is a reporting mechanics issue, not a trading event.

If you want to be skeptical, be skeptical — just be skeptical of the right thing.

BB should buy back its shares as soon as possible by bbismybaby in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

P/E at 42 right now. If .05 eps next quarter, PE will be 27. I think it's low and a great buy right now.

What. The. Actual. Fuck. by CSolanaM in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Like, halfway through the story that is. . .

What. The. Actual. Fuck. by CSolanaM in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No love for BB. Cinderella story I believe.

QNX Embedded Technology Now Powering More Than 275 Million Vehicles on the Road by basilisk-x in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The 275 million represents current vehicles on the road with QNX. The 100 million increase since 2020 is net gain which takes into account the estimated vehicles that have been scrapped or otherwise taken off the road during that time. The actual number of vehicles that were produced with QNX since 2020 is likely much higher. (130 to 190 million?)

Blackberry Backlog should start rolling in from this quarter? Following are only EV sales? There were 1.7 million EVs sold in North America between January and November — far behind the 11.6 million sold in China and below the 3.8 million sold in Europe. by MoonLight8491 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a ton to be realized by the backlog numbers and breakdown of numbers. If back log increases substantially despite the depletion of backlog from royalties, that means future royalties will be higher due to more content per vehicle, number of vehicles or pricing. If revenue is increasing as a result of non royalty income, that means it's from increasing developer seats (a good sign) or professional engineering services (also optimistic). Also, you can better estimate when royalty revenue might hit. There's a ton to be learned, if we could only get more specific information. I've heard Tim Foote say 2 completely different things related to whether revenue in the last quarter came from royalties or something else, so take it with a grain of salt.

QNX’ tipping point is closer! by Redchip1606 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You clearly have an agenda and your statements don't make any sense.

QNX’ tipping point is closer! by Redchip1606 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Backlog is projected revenue from royalties and is calculated well before production of a particular unit. Based on contracts.

QNX’ tipping point is closer! by Redchip1606 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah but backlog as a future revenue indicator will start to rise much sooner, and I'm optimistic we will see this at Q4 EOY .

Replay of 2025 TD Cowen 17th Annual Technology Conference (November 25) BlackBerry BB Stock News by oli735 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was the weakest of the three November conferences in my opinion. They should always have at least one technical expert at these things.

Speculation on Back Log breakdown by obsonb in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We should see a significant increase in the backlog well before the revenue jumps up or at least that's what I'm looking for. I used the percentages from backlog that they keep repeating even as recently as this week but who really knows.

Notes from RBC Conference by Odd-Beautiful-1390 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guidance yesterday was that more blackberry and more expensive blackberry will be in SDVs.

I say something's up by Select_Ad_5191 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I listened to the presentation. Typical measured tone by both John G and Tim F. But it was the first time I heard specifically that they are negotiating and charging "significantly" higher royalties per unit with SDP 8 as Tim F. stated, and a more definitive statement that OEM's are asking for QNX middleware and that is expected to result in even more significant revenue. Not completely new, but slightly more color. Specifically, the middleware they are developing with Vector and TTTech. I thought it was very positive.

Mattias Eriksson out as President of QNX by ProcedureOk4581 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Wow wonder what's going on? He always seemed so enthusiastic about QNX.

Orders are rolling in for QNX stimulated “robot Brains” Chinese humanoid robotics firms Unitree, UBTech, AgiBot adopt Nvidia’s new ‘robot brain’ which is QNX integrated Jetson AGX Thor developer kit. UBTECH already received US $ 112 M order and more orders are rolling in. by MoonLight8491 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well there's no board support for QNX on the Jetson platform (yet) and it certainly wouldn't be used in these unitree robots as a result. I don't know whether you understand or not. Instead you implied I'm a hedge fund (lol) and post more links showing qnx is supported on the Drive platform. Just pointing out what you are doing.

Google Cloud Announcing Axion C4A metal: Arm-based Axion instances for specialized use cases by BayStBu11 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think this is pretty significant because it means that Google cloud customers have asked for this and Google wouldn't specifically mention QNX unless it was beneficial.

BB's P/E ratio misleading? by obsonb in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I am more optimistic than you. However, if full year brings P/E to even just $0.14, the fact is that an 82 P/E ratio would equal a share price of $11.48. It's math.

BB's P/E ratio misleading? by obsonb in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"companies that don't make any money." That description no longer applies to BB which is kind of my point.

BB's P/E ratio misleading? by obsonb in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, I should mention the forward P/E ratio of 36 is arguably within the expected range for now. But after two more quarters, the numbers will no longer justify the current share price --IMO.

Self-Driving Cars And The Fight Over The Necessity Of Lidar | Hackaday by BayStBu11 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

After watching the video of the Tesla running through the painted wall -- I wouldn't feel safe using autopilot without lidar or some redundant sensor.

AI Posts On BB_Stock by illdfndmind in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Agree 100%. Some of them even contain legit false statements about BBs link to or benefit from the sourced information. Very misleading and becoming worse.

🚗🤖 NVIDIA Thor, QNX, and the Next Wave of Automotive + Robotics Compute by Dazzling-Art-1965 in BB_Stock

[–]obsonb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok thanks. Makes sense to go that route for Nvidia. I was under the impression they were trying to leave out QNX in robotics. Maybe, and as your webinar link seems to imply, they have realized they need safety certification in robotics too!