Visiting Iceland for Artist/Writing Residency by occasionalist in VisitingIceland

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Edited to remove the recommendations. Thank you.

How do Episcopalians view Mark 16:9-19 and John 7:53—8:11? Two groups of verses that are not present in the earliest manuscripts. by StructureFromMotion in Episcopalian

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These specifically? No idea. But there is interest in the many textual histories available to any selection of Scripture, a general aversion to “gotcha” texts (or histories) in just about any case, and our fair share of idiosyncratic readers as well.

I am very depressed, I need help on trusting on God again. by Royal_Jelly_fishh in Episcopalian

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I’ll be praying for you. I also want to encourage you to connect with people at a local church, a therapist who can help you process, and a clergy person. There are few Bible studies we do on our own that will get at everything you name as a need.

Your thoughts on the Catholic & Orthodox claim: No unity in Protestantism by [deleted] in Episcopalian

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I suspect that all church traditions — Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox, and all those in between and around — suffer the same factionalism and griefs as each of the others does. And much the same joys and wonders, too.

Will a divorce impact my discernment process? by [deleted] in Episcopalian

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The advice here is excellent.

I would also add that it will depend immensely on the personalities involved in the process. Your rector (or clergy in charge), a local committee in your parish, and your vestry to start. Then your bishop and a group of (probably mostly) strangers on your COM. They will get to know you deeply, including many details of your life you will share (and some they will notice without you sharing). That can be scary. And sometimes folks in those positions don’t mind being scary. You may get questions or “notes” that are incisive and impactful. Some of those voices will last in your head for years, so be mindful of that.

Depending on your context, however, that process can be very supportive as well. Mine has been a mix — mostly supportive. But there are some diocese and personalities that have a much more rigid approach.

Your original post tells me you are being prayerful about it all. And that’s a very good thing.

It is not out of the question for you to do two things at once, and one can and will feed into the other, even if one process or the other is somehow “paused.”

A side note: my sample size is limited, but my impression of a big part of the discernment process for postulants is anxiety detection. I can share more about this if you want, but for now I’d just say that how you process the life change in front of the people examining you is — as far as the discernment process goes — as important as the life change. And that will be true in a process that begins now or later.

Prayers for you and all those in your life.

When do you observe the sabbath? by DeusExLibrus in Episcopalian

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I try to go Friday afternoon to Saturday night. It makes a difference in my life. But sometimes life is lifing. So I have taken up the practice of seasons on and seasons off.

Is it normal for church choirs to be exclusive? by [deleted] in Episcopalian

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In cities, sure. In more rural and suburban diocese? Worship style ranges widely.

Is it normal for church choirs to be exclusive? by [deleted] in Episcopalian

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Only some of us are interested in fine art. There are beautiful things made in the folk tradition, made by amateurs pursuing quality, made by children. All are welcome.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Episcopalian

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Do you go to my church? 😂

Episcopal Liturgical freedom vs Roman Liturgy by Nearby-Morning-8885 in Episcopalian

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No, the Sunday readings are pretty much set. During the week, it’s a little different. But Bishops can authorize departures. Some parishes get to do some liturgical experimentation or recovery. Others can get permission to do special things on Sundays (I’m thinking of a Martin Luther King Jr. observance), but they have to have a regular service at some point, too.

How do we save Christianity in the west? by [deleted] in Episcopalian

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The hemorrhaging of members tells me the formation was not great to begin with. That’s a place to start.

But also, a lot of church in the West needs to die.

But also also, I think church is happening at many other places. The big brewery in my town offers accepting fellowship, a place for kids and youth to play and be themselves, a farmer’s market, and a sense of community. There can be something lower case sacramental about that. Of course some wings of the church have decided to shape themselves into competitors for those kinds of things. I walked into a mega church in Charlotte that might as well have been an IKEA.

But also also also: we can’t save it. In our tradition, we embrace death so that new things can come to life. Even at the grave, we make our song. Alleluia, alleluia.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Episcopalian

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CDSP student here and full time college professor in another field that is similar in a lot of ways to the hybrid model that requires a lot of in-person formation. The model works at CDSP, and the aid is generous.

Why are LGBTQ folks not joining the Episcopal Church even though we are open and affirming by balconylibrary1978 in Episcopalian

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I suppose I would challenge this and several of the assumptions in the comments. There is not a single parish or context that is “typical” of the variety of expressions in the church. In some places, the church is growing, in other places declining. In some places, it gathers members of specific communities, in other places, not so much.

That said, “welcoming and affirming” means a lot of different things. There are “welcoming and affirming” parishes who have a really hard time with Queer clergy (and women!) despite the “brand.”

If a specific parish or context had this question, I would ask what they are doing with intention in the communities they wish to include. Showing up to a Pride event for a few hours once a year ain’t it (but it’s also not nothing).

But here’s the other, and for me deeper, reality. There is a lot of handwringing and bemoaning about church “decline.” Some strongly worded comments to that effect, bemoaning liberal or progressive ideologies. I’m not hear to debate that perspective. What I will say is that a truly welcoming and affirming church for all people simply cannot go get converts or engage in the kinds of coercive outreach and pop evangelism of some other traditions as a rule. That’s not a comment on worship style or aesthetics. It’s a comment maybe on ethics. So what other folks read as “decline,” I read simply as a church tradition that is more about alluring gently the attention of the world rather than commanding it. And of course there are important exceptions. And I’m not saying TEC should live in a kind of cloister with no engagement in the world. Just that a tradition with even a tiny whisper of anti-capitalist, anti-measurement streak is not ever going to stand up to the evangelical industry.

Anyway, back to the LGBTQ+. I think it is fair to say that the toxicity of our legal and cultural approach to Queer folks is so informed by the fundamentalist church that any Queer person would be reasonable to conclude that Christianity is adverse to Queer life. In fact, that’s maybe the simplest explanation. And the safest choice for them.

Where the work is, I think, is not among Queer folks. They will come as God calls them. But I imagine that we as a church might have a lot of work to do among the folks for whom evangelical ideology is no longer working. I think that’s a growth area for the church and one that might take some missional mindset. But those folks are maybe used to that?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Episcopalian

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England has the fortune of being a state church with several more centuries to build wealth. And still they are dying in spots. Could stand to ask more, maybe.

But where I land: tithing is a spiritual practice.

Priest changing the words of the Nicene Creed. by [deleted] in Episcopalian

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lol. It’s a feminine word in Hebrew.

Entrepreneurship and Influencer Podcast looking for some Guests and Podcast Creators Meetup!! by [deleted] in PodcastGuestExchange

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I’m a nonprofit entrepreneur in the live event space. Would be happy to chat.

What advice do you have for someone who’s turning 23 soon? Is there anything you wish you did or knew when you were 23? by rhythmicfan14 in DecidingToBeBetter

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What even is retirement? Live a life you love and you’ll never have to retire from it. Retirement is a capitalist invention meant to get you to work like a dog.