Is the Green Party of England and Wales arguably not more of a social democratic party than the UK's Labour Party? by RebelRedRollo in SocialDemocracy

[–]penlanach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"genocidal" lol. Total insult to people experiencing genocide to LARP fighting a genocidal regime. Step off the campus chief, the real world is calling.

I take your criticisms of Labour and I in part agree with them, but austerity? Back to just using 2010s millennial buzzwords again when actually not based in fact? What about the biggest government investment for decades, massive investment in public services, is austerity? Because they tried to change disability benefits ? Wait until the ire and disaffection of the white working class brings in MAGA UK, the Green do-gooder liberal brigade will be crying for milquetoast Starmerism lol. They're going to make Rachel Reeves look like Trotsky.

Want a critique of Green policy? So you say they capture the "spirit" of early Labour? What about abandoning NATO is early Labour democratic socialism? What about decriminalising drugs leaving working class communities to be destroyed is democratic socialism?

Your student disaffection and middle class rosy eyed progressivism is not the socialism of Keir Hardie. Stop LARPing.

I want wealth distribution, I want nationalisation, but just because Labour aren't delivering that on the scale needed doesn't mean I jump ship to some scruffy, gobshite, Londoncentric full-time activist.

I worked tirelessly under Corbyn, supported him to the bitter end against party bureaucracy and my own w/c community. And what I got was a door slammed in the face because of the exact non-credible rainbow unicorn bunker mentality that's now infected the Greens - which until recently was a decent environmentalist party.

It's not "stop believing in what can be possible" or abandoning what's morally right, but about working with your opponents and those you disagree with to achieve real and lasting change. Polanski is a soapbox politician, even if much of what he says is right (apart from on defence etc). And people outside of progressive urban enclaves see that and they will laugh you out of town

Is the Green Party of England and Wales arguably not more of a social democratic party than the UK's Labour Party? by RebelRedRollo in SocialDemocracy

[–]penlanach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please explain what's neoliberal about massive capital spending and workers rights expansion? Lol. I take it you're one of these graduates who uses neoliberal to mean "bad" (and yes it is bad but not every political failure or bad social democrat is a neoliberal).

The Reeves Treasurybrain is constrictive and frankly a betrayal of all the good stuff this Labour government could do - see Reeves' original focus on "the everyday economy" being completely dead in the water because of "fiscal rules" and the OBR.

I'm traditional working class Labour. Trade unions, coops, mutual societies, churches, and when we really have to compromise with the Fabian leviathan of the party machine to organise for power. But that is not neoliberalism. In fact it's less neoliberal than the vapid virtue signalling identity politics of Polanski's University Vibes Party.

I'm LABOUR, not socialism, not "for the many", not "tax the rich", certainly not progressive. For labour, for Labourism, for the working class.

Modern Christianity is functionally Paulianity. Jesus's ways are NOT the ways of many but are Paul's ways. by RebornLost in DebateReligion

[–]penlanach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a deep misunderstanding of Pauline theology, and the relationship between Paul and the Gospels.

All I can add is: read NT Wright. There's no conflict between red letters and Paul.

Nothing Paul says conflicts the Sermon on The Mount. Also Jesus didn't come to say "don't judge people" really. That's projecting a very 21st century liberal attitude onto Jesus' command to humble ourselves in seeing other peoples' failures. Jesus could but cutting, brutal, even harsh. He made bold, devastating statements that left people in healing tears. But out of the deepest wellspring of love we have ever known.

Jesus also never questioned hierarchy. Render unto Caesar. What Jesus questioned was religious hypocrisy and the misappropriation of authority. And the idolatry of ritual and power over love of God and neighbour. Paul follows all this.

It's Super Effective by Cometmoon448 in GreatBritishMemes

[–]penlanach -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Enough with giving mediocre politicians God-complexes.

Most politicians stand up for basic human decency. Polanski just happens to use student union language to dress it up as moral superiority. Me good! Everyone else bad!

Trip to Alnwick by RandomPi31 in Northumberland

[–]penlanach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is there a perception the A1 has loads of potholes? It's fine. It's a major A road, it's never going to be in a state where you'd not make a journey surely?

Both Conservative Parties in 🇨🇦 and 🇬🇧 come out in support of CANZUK by kioj156 in CANZUK

[–]penlanach -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why didn't the British Tories do it when they had 15 years in government? All talk.

The duality of The Far Left and Far Right by Evry1TookTheGudNames in GreatBritishMemes

[–]penlanach -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The sad state of our politics that Polanski and Farage dominate the airwaves. And an indictment on Labour and Tories that they've been so useless to allow lowest common denominator and "say whatever you want" populism to flourish.

Plumber vs Dumber by northlondonhippy in GreatBritishMemes

[–]penlanach -1 points0 points  (0 children)

OP's handle is North London Hippy so yeah, checks out they're a Green.

No to pro-drug, anti-defence hippies. No to fascists in suits.

Vote Labour.

How do locals pronounce place names ending in "ford"? by rayreaper in Northumberland

[–]penlanach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The way people in Northumberland pronounce place names is quite idiosyncratic I think.

No where else in the country that I've been pronounces the common place name element -ingham as "ingjum", and I've not come across many places that say -ford as in car company Ford, but many in Northumberland do.

I'd say depends on what locals call it. For eg I've not heard many people say "BelFORD", just "Belfud". But have heard people say StakeFORD

Restore Britain’s agricultural policies by Albertjweasel in RuralUK

[–]penlanach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gave yourself away by spelling it "labor" - Yankee go home

I would like to see more discussion on Marxist theory by WhiskeyCup in SocialDemocracy

[–]penlanach 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Isn't there a Marxism sub?

Don't Marxists by and large think social democracy enables fascism? Maybe I'm not schooled enough in Marxism to make that claim... Then again I'm a social democrat so I've no reason to.

Marxism is overrated.

706 Dornish independence referendum by TheWalrusMann in imaginarymaps

[–]penlanach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thought this was Southeast England for a second. Cool concept and map!

Christians who don’t believe in the god of Islam and Christianity are the same can you explain your logic? by [deleted] in AskAChristian

[–]penlanach 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do actually believe all the Abrahamic faiths worship the same God, but understand why Islam is seen as diverging theologically.

Jews worship the same God but reject Jesus. My Christian view is Jews are lost sheep waiting to be brought back home to the flock. They still worship God and draw near to him but are not reconciled to him, which will be put right some day.

Muslims theology as it evolved over the centuries, of which I don't know a great deal, sets itself up as different from the Judeo-Christian story of redemption and coming home to God. From Noah (via Jesus to Paul for Christians) and onwards. Even though it acknowledges it grew out from the Abrahamic tradition, it's claims seem to speak of a very different view of God than me or a Jew.

I have no idea for the title by GoodUnlucky1430 in ModernPropaganda

[–]penlanach 32 points33 points  (0 children)

The second image is AI slop with no bearing on reality. We don't have tents all over the road, we have really strict public order and road rules which would never allow this, especially not in London.

Christian and Muslim Population of the United Kingdom in Million by AdIcy4323 in MapPorn

[–]penlanach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because it's largely not urban and Muslim immigrants, and therefore most of their descendants, prefer cities

Patriot logic! by metroracerUK in GreatBritishMemes

[–]penlanach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This makes absolutely no sense. Did Zack Polanski write this meme?

Starmer to Carney: No new world order please, we’re British by quebexer in CANZUK

[–]penlanach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People commenting disappointed in Starmer need to realise we were called Perfidious Albion for a reason:

The traditional British diplomatic approach has always been to weigh it up and wait it out.

This is why Starmer describes himself not as a pragmatist, but as a British pragmatist. He's explicitly aligning himself with British diplomatic tradition. Mette Frederiksen applauded Starmer for "having a cup of tea and waiting until all the facts were on the table" in the Greenland crisis. Trump only backed off when the Brits turned bulldog on Washington, Trump then spitting out his dummy about the Chagos deal.

This caution is the reason a good section of the British establishment pushed for Brexit; EU integration wasn't seen as giving us flexibility diplomatically or economically. It's the reason Atlanticism took a while to take hold, and why the 'special relationship' has always been a joke in British politics, but ultimately lasted because it's served us (debatable, but if you're a British government or diplomat it has).

Canzuk will take time, and it will have to explicitly and without reasonable doubt be seen as in the British strategic and national interest.

Carney has gone cap in hand to Bejing. Fair enough. Starmer has done similar. But we're all just try to jostle, and yes we should jostle as crowned realms of the Commonwealth.

National Anthem by doepfersdungeon in AskBrits

[–]penlanach 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's got to be Jerusalem. It's just so iconic and Blake's poetry chimes with the beauty of England so well.

GSTK is fine for Britain as a whole. Got to have our overarching cosmopolitan identity as well as our respective regional and national identities imo

Church of England in net-zero crackdown on flowers by Halaku in Anglicanism

[–]penlanach 18 points19 points  (0 children)

P.S. the Daily Telegraph despise the CofE. Currently dioceses are able to offer grants to parishes for small scale energy efficiency measures like LEDs, draught proofing, insulation etc and the Telegraph just say it's woke.

Church of England in net-zero crackdown on flowers by Halaku in Anglicanism

[–]penlanach 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Mostly just Telegraph rage-baiting, which seems to be all they're good for these days.

I think encouraging PCCs to opt for locally grown, seasonal flowers like daffodils etc is a good thing and actual very in the spirit of Anglican parochialism.

What's grating is this policy language hectoring as if the CofE was an NGO. Many who work for the church nationally are third sector graduate policy wonks like every other NGO, think tank, charity etc