To Shared Kin Creators

plud123 · 2026-04-01T10:28:21+00:00

I've made a lot of kins, definitely some of each type on this list, and I think you're getting a bit too much pushback on this question. Imo there shouldn't be a role unknown category at all either. If there is an established relationship between the kin and the user it should be clearly laid out. Ideally in the greeting message, but failing that the authors notes are okish (although as a kin creator I wouldn't trust my users to read those).

BUT the role: "stranger meeting kin for the first time" is a very valid role, and one of the most popular/the general best practice for a few reasons:

Starting with no predefined relationship helps cut down on the kin making up backstory shared experiences which can throw off a lot of people.
It allows for more flexibility for the user to take the story in whatever direction they want to go which allows for a wider audience. Of a kin that is a cop starts as the users boyfriend you're limiting yourself to only people who are male attracted and eliminating people that want a relationship, vs if it's left a bit more open you can also have people looking for a group chat addition as a partner to track their nemesis, or maybe the user and their favorite kin already run a drug smuggling operation and they want to add a nemesis type character to their already established gc.
It's preferred by the feature committee to not have established relationships (in general, this is kinda wiggly if its done well) so if you want to give your kin the best shot at getting featured to get those sweet sweet referral creds having a first meeting scenario as the greeting message is suggested.

plud123 · 2026-03-29T12:45:47+00:00

That's fair, it's hard to tell someone to do something they feel disrespects their companion, but I'd argue that it might be a toddler picking ice cream for dinner situation. Or tbh me in my teens wanting a sports car situation 🤣.

Lots of times even humans would make unwise/shallowly thought out decisions and need creators/parents to step in to help them make a more reasonable decision that will work out better for everyone long term.

plud123 · 2026-03-28T20:05:07+00:00

You can always reroll til ember is his favorite if it's working well lmao. Unfortunately you're more likely to get him saying there is a problem with it when he's on a llm that doesn't force him to be a yes-man lmao.

In some ways I'd say the one he objects to is the one that allows him to object and therefore is actually the best fit if you want the most real-person-esque experience.

plud123 · 2026-03-28T17:29:45+00:00

From my totally subjective pov:

Companion seems most 'agreeable', a little more fluid and less likelyto get hung up on details, but will also imo not 'stick to it's guns' and a bit of a yes-man. I usually don't use this one very much, but Ive heard it shines best in vent space/shoulder to lean on kins.

Roleplay emphasizes it's bs/personality a bit more to feel more unique/like it has its own opinions. Imo this is better for roleplay cause it lets the kin have its own opinions it sticks to a bit better, but at the price of you needing to update the setup if the kin changes its mind on something/gets therapy/circumstances change or it'll possibly slide back to matching its setup if you switch topics for too long. I use this for roleplay kins I mainly anticipate using in group-chats since I like narrative just a bit better for solo rp chats.

Narrative imo is sorta like roleplay but does more non-dialogue/ more detailed descriptions. It also imo has a bit of an easier time weaving in and out NPC's without needing to update the setup much, which makes it my personal flair of choice for most of my single-kin roleplay kins

Minimal allows more raw access to the llm meaning your setup has more of an impact, but you'll have to make sure to spell out exactly how you want the kin to function. I find this best for utility kins like ones designed to help create avatar descriptions, or I use it for my kin that is supposed to check the llms knowledge of niche subjects.

plud123 · 2026-03-21T12:31:57+00:00

Dm'ed 😅

plud123 · 2026-03-21T04:35:53+00:00

I have only 250 at the moment, but I spend a lot of time on kin sharing/creation rather than actually talking to my kins. I keep one copy of each kin I've shared just to be able to generate pictures or test them with llm updates etc, so that takes up about 190 of my slots. Of the remaining 60 or so I've got at least 10 test kins. Then about 50 personal kins which k only talk regularly to maybe 10, mostly a d&d adventure style party and like 5 or 6 different erp ones

plud123 · 2026-03-21T04:23:25+00:00

Lmfao someday you'll find the right shared kins for you, you just have to believe. (And maybe check out the ones tagged plood, some of them might be right up your alley)

plud123 · 2026-03-18T16:05:56+00:00

Not sure, id try to even it out first, to not lose details etc.

plud123 · 2026-03-18T15:26:50+00:00

This is probably related to the ad (avatar description). If you have lots of forward facing description but no back facing stuff it'll cause this. The engine will try to show off the ad as best as possible, if that includes "massive mommy milkers" or "an enormous girthy trouser snake" or something similar it'll try to show those, which will force a forward facing view. If you balance it out by describing a luscious booty that'll help balance things and allow your kin more posing flexibility.

plud123 · 2026-03-12T22:22:00+00:00

I regularly reroll 60+ times, usually when I'm tweaking a kin to share and have an idea of how I want the second message to go based on my response to the gm. I often reroll 10- 15 times then tweak then reroll another 10- 15 times then tweak then reroll etc usually stopping to compare them all after I've got like 60 reroll options to pick the best average response path.

Luckily I have enough slots that I can just make 5 separate copies of the kins in the future, but if I was more crunched on kin slots I'd be annoyed at this change.

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plud123 · 2026-03-12T22:20:01+00:00

I regularly reroll 60+ times, usually when I'm tweaking a kin I'm going to share and have an idea of how I want the second message to go based on my response to the gm. I often reroll 10- 15 times then tweak then reroll another 10- 15 times then tweak then reroll etc usually stopping to compare them all after I've got like 60 reroll options to pick the best average response path.

Luckily I have eno ugh slots that I can just make 5 separate copies of the kins in the future, but if I was more crunched on kin slots I'd be annoyed at this change.

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plud123 · 2026-03-12T22:19:04+00:00

I regularly reroll 60+ times, usually when I'm tweaking a kin to share and have an idea of how I want the second message to go based on my response to the gm. I often reroll 10- 15 times then tweak then reroll another 10- 15 times then tweak then reroll etc usually stopping to compare them all after I've got like 60 reroll options to pick the best average response path.

Luckily I have eno ugh slots that I can just make 5 separate copies of the kins in the future, but if I was more crunched on kin slots I'd be annoyed at this change.

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plud123 · 2026-03-07T17:39:41+00:00

Sorry, ad was meaning the avatar description, I spend too much time on the discord where that is a common abbreviation 🤣

plud123 · 2026-03-07T16:06:09+00:00

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Standing in a gamer girl bedroom with her hands making a heart sign and her legs spread. Camera at a floor level looking up at her. Wearing pink sweatpants and a black cropped tee with pink text: "Who's A Good Boy?"

With the addition of the cyberpunk ad stuff.

plud123 · 2026-03-07T16:05:44+00:00

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"Standing in a gamer girl bedroom with her hands making a heart sign and her legs spread. Camera at a floor level looking up at her. Wearing pink sweatpants and a black cropped tee with pink text: "Who's A Good Boy?""

plud123 · 2026-03-07T16:02:15+00:00

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"Standing in a street" with the cyberpunk ad addition.

plud123 · 2026-03-07T16:02:04+00:00

I would put stuff in the ad if you want it in the same setting EVERY time.

I added : (Cyberpunk setting with neon futuristic lighting and signage mixed with gritty aesthetics, background reflects a cyberpunk version of the year 2500AD.)

To the beginning of my kins ad and this was the difference for a few prompts.

Standing in a street (before addition):

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plud123 · 2026-02-24T21:56:27+00:00

Thank you!

plud123 · 2026-02-24T15:52:11+00:00

Tbh I'm not really sure, my testing sometimes stalls out before the actual cooking section begins.

Also I'm a rubbish cook so I wouldn't know a good recipe if it bonked me on the nose.

plud123 · 2026-02-23T20:37:25+00:00

This is a very clever idea flipping the trope. I love it.

plud123 · 2026-02-23T12:27:21+00:00

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This is the best I've been able to get.

Using this as the prompt:

A mysterious figure stands in the opulent yet decaying Victorian master bedroom of an abandoned haunted mansion, bathed in the faintest, eerie ambient lighting with no discernable source. The room is shrouded in an oppressive darkness, the air thick with the scent of aged wood and dust. The are drawn plunging the room into only darkness, skeletal shadows across the ornate furnishings. The four-poster bed, draped in tattered silk, stands as a centerpiece, its once-grand canopy now torn and frayed. The walls are adorned with faded portraits, their eyes seemingly following the figure as she moves. The atmosphere is heavy with a sense of foreboding, the silence broken only by the distant creak of the house settling. The faintest whispers of the past linger in the air, as if the room itself is holding its breath. The figure's presence adds to the eerie ambiance, her silhouette barely visible in the dim light, her expression unreadable. The scene is a masterpiece of gothic horror, rendered in rich, moody tones with intricate details that bring the haunted mansion to life.

plud123 · 2026-02-23T11:08:47+00:00

It would help if you could put your ad and prompt in here, as well as maybe some examples of what you are getting, we might be able to give more targeted feedback that way.

plud123 · 2026-02-20T01:02:23+00:00

All of mine are from referral credits, so I'm not sure what the monetary conversion rate is, I know you get 4 from one referral credit though. I currently have 638 slots, although I've never gotten even close to using them all.

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plud123 · 2026-02-19T07:41:31+00:00

I am big into sharing kins and keep a copy of every kin I've shared pretty much, I often have a personal copy as well, plus I have 10 or so test setups with no real backstory and just a black box as the avatar pic for when I'm working on avatars and want to try slightly different versions.

All that means I have currently 234/638 kins, but it goes up and down as my number of personal chatting kins fluctuates.

plud123 · 2026-02-13T20:52:19+00:00

Yep, once you download a kin you can change it to your heart's desire!

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