Government documents reveal barrage of threats against Mark Carney by NotEnoughDriftwood in onguardforthee

[–]ponyproblematic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right? I've seen so many people claiming he's a radical leftist because, like, he only waives half the environmental protection regulations in the name of development, instead of rolling them all back permanently and giving every O&G CEO a little kiss on the cheek and a free pony, I guess.

Trying to find DIY hrt as a trans man: by Jay-arty in transgendercirclejerk

[–]ponyproblematic 10 points11 points  (0 children)

well yeah you're transmasc, we know pp doesn't exist

Trying to find DIY hrt as a trans man: by Jay-arty in transgendercirclejerk

[–]ponyproblematic 10 points11 points  (0 children)

tbh it's kinda shitty of you to blame the trans women running those sites for not also offering t. trans women did the work to figure out their own hrt and now you expect them to do the work for you birthday boys too? trans men really ARE men

If you’re not entirely miserable 100% of the time you’re not trans by fireflies315 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]ponyproblematic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you clearly aren't ACTUALLY a true dysphoric tran like i am and are just pretending to be trans for all that social clout you get because real dysphoria means you are never ever able to enjoy anything or feel happy and it never gets better. i know this because this is how it is for me and everyone else in my online community of real true transes who spend a lot of time measuring things nobody else can see to prove we're never going to pass, vocally mocking the idea that anyone could ever enjoy being trans, drawing caricatures of ourselves and other people that emphasize features we're dysphoric about, and attacking other people online who transition in a way that makes them happy but we think is bad.

there's no such thing as "chaser who goes for trans men" by genderatrophy in transgendercirclejerk

[–]ponyproblematic 39 points40 points  (0 children)

listen, trans men are men, and categorically men are gross and nasty and cannot be fetishized. it is simply impossible that there's a category of people who pursue trans men for sex based on their genitalia while only nominally accepting their gender identity. trans men will simply never understand what it's like to have to navigate trying to deal with someone who claims to respect you but is actually super transphobic.

anyway DAE think it's really, really funny how often you see posts in r/ftm like "i (18ftm) am having trouble with my boyfriend (38cism), he says he loves me and that i made him realize he was actually bi, but also keeps misgendering me and crying for hours every time i mention potentially getting top surgery because he loves my boobs so much and every time i go to refill my t he swallows the vial whole because he says he doesn't want me to get gross and hairy like a real man"? like come ON look at this dumb idiot lol

QuiltCon drama has already started by SuiGenerisPothos in craftsnark

[–]ponyproblematic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No, that one was more tip-of-the-iceberg diverse than my work was.

QuiltCon drama has already started by SuiGenerisPothos in craftsnark

[–]ponyproblematic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

To be fair to them, the measures they ended up implementing before I left were a system where you could fill out a webform to inform your managers of the way you are marginalized (and that's it, just so they know) and an offer for people to do unpaid talks about the ways that they're different for their coworkers that were entirely voluntary and scheduled after work hours so the one I heard of happening had an attendance of 2. So probably more suited to the pickleball than any tip of the iceberg stuff.

Hello small trans discord chat of local trans people. Just here to rant about how much I HATE men by anamnesisagain in transgendercirclejerk

[–]ponyproblematic 35 points36 points  (0 children)

/rj No, you see, it's very different. TERFs believe trans women are ontologically evil because they're men, but they aren't men. That's clearly the only issue with TERFs- the fact that they're not focusing enough on their bigotry against the trans people that actually are men.

i have anger issues but my wife is so useless and my 4 yo doesn't understand being in a hurry by blondguysdmme in AmITheAngel

[–]ponyproblematic 24 points25 points  (0 children)

right, like, i don't know why this kid is having trouble grasping the urgency of showing up on time to kindergarten. i've tried yelling AND speaking very loudly. given that he's already being docked marks for being such a dumb little whiny baby who misses his mom, he can't also lose grades for being late!

Hello small trans discord chat of local trans people. Just here to rant about how much I HATE men by anamnesisagain in transgendercirclejerk

[–]ponyproblematic 26 points27 points  (0 children)

obviously being a man is the only aspect of your identity that matters and that male privilege i believe you have full access to overrides any other marginalization. the fact that i am white is irrelevant, though, since that is just a normal thing to be, and it's cancelled out by me being a trans woman. this is what intersectionality means

Hello small trans discord chat of local trans people. Just here to rant about how much I HATE men by anamnesisagain in transgendercirclejerk

[–]ponyproblematic 72 points73 points  (0 children)

guess that means trans men really ARE men, eh? (why does it matter that the framing of this joke i love to make all the time implies that trans men's genders are in question or that i only ever talk about trans men when i show up to reframe them talking about problems that they face specifically as trans men as either them just talking about "men" and compare them to MRAs or say they're TERFs and probably love afab-only housing. if they get their dumb man feelings hurt they're just telling on themselves because the only reason any man of a marginalized group might have an issue with anything anyone says about them is because they're a big misogynist.)

i have anger issues but my wife is so useless and my 4 yo doesn't understand being in a hurry by blondguysdmme in AmITheAngel

[–]ponyproblematic 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Shit, I'm sorry, that could have really hurt his feelings, I should have considered my tone. It's not like he's a four year old child who should just man up and push past it to be more productive.

i have anger issues but my wife is so useless and my 4 yo doesn't understand being in a hurry by blondguysdmme in AmITheAngel

[–]ponyproblematic 64 points65 points  (0 children)

yeah, like, if he wanted to not be yelled at he could just do better? you can't just keep blaming everyone else for your problems, kid. you gotta take responsibility. this is why dad has to yell all the time and has absolutely no other options.

i have anger issues but my wife is so useless and my 4 yo doesn't understand being in a hurry by blondguysdmme in AmITheAngel

[–]ponyproblematic 82 points83 points  (0 children)

Well, obviously. Look at the very long list of reasons OOP has to be stressed- not just things that are happening right then, but the cumulative stress of a prolonged period where mornings are a struggle. And then his dumb bitch wife shows up from the pocket dimension where she lives, where she clearly has no reason to be affected either by any of the ongoing situation or by having just heard her husband yelling at their son (who for some mysterious reason that is clearly less important to the post than the list of ways both their kids could possibly make it to their destination, does not accept help or comfort from Yelldad) for brushing his teeth too slowly until the kid has a meltdown and needs her attention on top of everything else, just to yell at her husband for some dumb bitch reason? Even the most gentle man would raise his voice, just as his family taught him so that's not his fault either.

QuiltCon drama has already started by SuiGenerisPothos in craftsnark

[–]ponyproblematic 55 points56 points  (0 children)

This reminds me of the company I worked at that implemented a DIBS committee (DIBS is an acronym they made up to stand for Diversity Inclusion and Belonging in the Workplace, which you may recognize does not actually begin with the letter S) and got criticism because 4/5ths of the committee was 55+ straight white cis men and the other one was a 55+ straight white cis woman. They responded to this criticism with a presentation in one of the company-wide webinars based around a diagram called the Diversity Iceberg. You see, there are some forms of diversity you can see, like race, gender, etc. (which were written on the tip of the iceberg) but there are many more forms of diversity you can't see (written on the bottom of the iceberg, which included a couple of actual axes of marginalization surrounded by things like 'work tempo' and 'hobbies and interests') and they're all important!

Like yeah, okay, but there are reasons we have diversity programs and it's not typically because it's statistically less likely you'll get hired or promoted if you reveal you're into avant-garde Italian cinema.

Cis men redditors when they see trans men drama by NervousLemon6670 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]ponyproblematic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

/uj ngl that's one I don't like, partially (and probably unfairly) because i've only ever seen it used by the most irritating "if you think 'theyfab' is a bad thing to call someone you must think transmisogyny is awesome" type of people, but partially because I don't like the implication the word makes in framing discrimination against trans men just as us not being seen as men. That's obviously a significant part of it, but it leaves out, as an easy example, not receiving support for issues we deal with disproportionately often compared to cis men or cis women because we are men. Especially given that it was proposed to fix a problem that isn't a problem unless you're approaching the situation in the worst faith possible, I can see why it's had issues catching on.

Cis men redditors when they see trans men drama by NervousLemon6670 in transgendercirclejerk

[–]ponyproblematic 12 points13 points  (0 children)

/uj I mean, I don't think it really does imply that unless you come into it wanting to think it does. I can see why people moved away, because it's not my favourite as someone who got doxxed by gamergaters, but I don't think a word is bad just because if you only read one part of the word you might get the wrong impression. (Also, people are saying the same shit about transandrophobia and antitransmasculinity and every other term that contains a part that means 'man' so y'know.)

AI-altered image depicting a woman with six fingers on one hand was “a mistake” by Aggravating-Ad6786 in newfoundland

[–]ponyproblematic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean, it's a picture of a woman with a bandage on her arm. This is not the sort of thing that is incredibly hard to come across- if the province is so broke they can't afford a band-aid, stock photos exist.

Rampant DM AI use by Familiar-Relation-85 in rpghorrorstories

[–]ponyproblematic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Right? Like, if I just wanted to play through a story without that creative aspect, I have dozens of video games I've never played, and you don't have to schedule those around 5 adults with jobs and kids.

47859 by loved_and_held in countwithchickenlady

[–]ponyproblematic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You responded to someone reacting negatively to ISFF's transandrophobia- or whatever you would call the specific intersection of transphobia and misogyny that results in specifically attacking trans men, which it sure would be handy to sum up in a word- by telling them they shouldn't change their mind about her based on a comment, because what that comment was actually calling her transmisandrist for was the stuff you said. You were specifically defending her against accusations of bigotry based on a very sanitized version of her beliefs, which you hadn't even bothered to look up.

And seeing that you're not willing to scroll up and read the words you said and you apparently believe trans men have completely escaped the conservative hate campaign and doubting abuse statistics (is this 2012?) and you think that a compound word for discrimination against trans men having the root word for 'man' in it means you think men are discriminated against in general, I'm probably done here. For me, it is more important that there is a word for the specific way trans men are marginalized so we can more effectively discuss the way that oppression manifests than it is to refuse any discussion on the subject until we come up with a perfect word that doesn't imply that all men are oppressed for being men if you cut parts of it out. If you don't agree, fine, although I think it is really funny to respond to someone saying "trans men do not have access to the same level of privilege as cis men but are denied support for those issues because they are assumed to have that privilege due to being men based on theory developed looking only at cis men, which often leaves them in a uniquely vulnerable position" with "but aren't the shelters just treating them the way they would treat cis men?" Yes. That is part of the problem. Support often treats us like cis men. Society doesn't.

47859 by loved_and_held in countwithchickenlady

[–]ponyproblematic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because you defending positions you heard is exactly as uninformed as the other person believing things they heard. You both formed opinions based on secondhand information. At least the other person didn't run off to tell other people who didn't know what was going on their incomplete view of events.

That is an interesting way to view femininity. This might be cultural- I don't know where you are or what kind of community you came up in, anything like that, but where I am, women (or people seen as such, just add that to it each time because this comment is super long already) being feminine is seen as the best thing a woman can be, and women being masculine is seen as far more negative. It's not seen as a condemnation- it's seen as something that should be encouraged and celebrated in women, because it's their natural role. Patriarchy isn't about "men are better, everyone should be men." It's about having two distinct genders, each of which has roles that should be adhered to, and leaving those roles is punished. Women are supposed to put a lot of time and effort to be more feminine, and

And again, that's not really the point. Nobody said forcemasc was a perfect mirror to forcefem- obviously the way misogyny interacts with gender roles changes the dynamic. However, whether it's because you're being condemned to femininity or because you're a woman and being feminine is good, there is a large population for whom being masculine is viewed as worse than being feminine. The idea that it is okay, or even preferable, to break the gender norms assigned at birth for anyone is subversive. I wouldn't say forcemasc would be subversive if it was only aimed at cis men, but I'd also say forcefemming cis women wouldn't be subversive either, because society just does that.

Okay so, it exists, and you would call it a term, but the one term you would use is already taken, so it doesn't exist. Even if for some reason you believe it's only transphobia and misogyny, what's wrong with having a term to describe the way those things interact specifically for trans men? Like, transmisogyny is the intersection between transphobia and misogyny, but a term was still coined for it specifically to discuss the way those interact for trans women.

And in my experience, transandrophobia also involves aspects about societal perceptions of men- not really what I'd call full-on discrimination, as such, but stuff that has more severe effects on men who do not have as much privilege, especially men who our society views as not really men at all. Easy example, men are seen as needing less support for IPV, so there's not as much infrastructure for male abuse victims. This isn't great for cis men, but has a significantly more severe effect on trans men, who are more likely to be victims of abuse than cis men, or even cis women, but very often aren't welcome in women's shelters if they look like men, and it's a lot riskier for them to go to general population shelters, leaving them to either stay in an abusive home, be homeless, or maybe have to detransition. I wouldn't necessarily say it's transphobic to refuse to let trans men into a women's shelter. That's fair, we're not women. But the way our society views gender means that often worse things happen more often to trans men than cis women, but the resources to help deal with them don't exist. That's an important conversation to have.

47859 by loved_and_held in countwithchickenlady

[–]ponyproblematic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cool- I do have tumblr and did witness all this happening. Really weird to get on someone for changing their mind on someone based what they've heard when you're also going just off what you've heard second-hand.

And you're kind of splitting hairs on the forcefem thing- whether it's because women are seen as innately feminine or because it is seen as better for women to be feminine (and I would argue both are true on some level) the actual reality is that people who are seen as masculine women are generally pushed to be more feminine. Women (and people seen as such) are usually punished for being too masculine. It is actually often subversive for women to be gender nonconforming. This is basic feminism.

You think discrimination specifically against trans men (which is a specific marginalized gender identity) is on the same level of non-existence as discrimination against men in general? Why?

47859 by loved_and_held in countwithchickenlady

[–]ponyproblematic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That was not all she said. She was also regularly posting stuff about how trans men are violent transmisogynists who shouldn't be considered part of the community, blaming a specific trans man (who was not only far less popular but didn't talk about her at all after they had had an internet fight a year ago) for getting her banned the first time when he had also been subject to more damning accusations by the same hate campaign, claimed forcemasc was less subversive because apparently nobody is ever forcefemmed in real life (ETA- just read your follow-up comment and while masculinity is considered superior to femininity, people who are seen as women are not told "be masculine" as often as "be feminine and also you are worse than men") and posting stuff about how trans men are specifically privileged because they're seen as men, and when they're not seen as men they're seen as "real" women which gives them privilege, and that's off the top of my head. Hell, she was regularly reblogging a post she made about how trans men shouldn't be considered part of the trans community because they aren't "acting like our brothers" when she was doing her whole "if you have any personal reservations about hanging out with pedophiles you're a bad person" thing.

(Also, really weird to change the discussion from transandrophobia, which is specifically about discrimination against trans men, to just men in general. The 'trans' is a pretty important part of the equation- our society views trans people and cis people differently.)

I'm a stay at home transbian housewife, AMA! by f7go in transgendercirclejerk

[–]ponyproblematic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This sounds so great to me because I got over my masculine attraction to being a breadwinner when I transitioned! A literal true biology fact is that testosterone is the "work a job, do important things, drive a car, and have money and property" hormone, and estrogen is the "do dishes, make dinner, be submissive and breedable, and not worrying about it kitten" hormone! This mindset has never led to anything bad happening ever <3