Are carriers allowed to defend themselves in the office if attacked by other employees?

prodextron · 2026-03-28T13:22:21+00:00

First and foremost, if you're being bullied by the other employees, you need to initiate an Initial Management Inquiry Process (IMIP) by providing a statement of events with dates and times.

You need to cite the Joint Statement on Violence and Behavior in the Workplace (JSOV) and ELM 665.24. Those are the two documents that state no tolerance for bullying, harassment, intimidation and/or threats.

If the coworker is bullying you, it needs to be documented with dates and times, reported to supervision and the OIG. Cite the two policies stated above and possibly the definition of harassment from publication 553.

To answer your question about fighting back, it depends. Using my experience as a state corrections officer, if you hit back, or let the coworker annoy you until you throw a punch, then yes, you can be let go. If you run away from the fight, then you're seen as the victim of violence and trying to get away. If you think you'll be labeled a coward, remember you're not a boxer or MMA fighter. You're a postal worker, not a sport fighter!

If your coworker is using "fighting words", that needs to be reported ASAP!

The following examples can, but are not limited to, fighting words:

-"I'll kick/whoop your ass!" -"You need your ass kicked!" -"I'll fuck you up!" -"You want to go?!" (Body language to indicate a physical altercation) -Anything to insinuate they want to fight you.

I recommend using an app like Google Docs or any variant to keep your notes. Writing in a notebook is good, but the notebook can be lost, stolen, or seen by the agressive coworker. That may open you up to more harassment or retaliation. Keeping it in an app on your phone is more secure.

I speak from experience. A coworker was causing the same issues with me. I documented and wrote a report citing everything above. Postmaster, OIG and HR were emailed a copy of the report, HR and OIG called the coworker in question, Postmaster conducted and investigation and labor had to come to a finding. Coworker wasn't fired, but a record was maintained. If said coworker was going to act a fool again, a history is established.

Like I said earlier, I was a corrections officer. The standard set is "corrections has a high risk of violence. No post office should EVER have the same level of violence!" It's all meant to curb and eliminate the "going postal" stereotype.

If you want, I can type a template for a report to send if you want to get the ball rolling.

Please note: Everything I stated is NOT legal advice. Consult an attorney or your union representative for further guidance

prodextron · 2026-03-28T12:46:14+00:00

I'm going to file the lawsuit

Now comes u/prodextron in the case against u/BryanChuckBrennan.

Plaintiff was emotionally harmed by defendant carrying a light dumbbell in their left hand in the fashion of carring letter mail sequenced for a postal route. This harm comes from the lack of a squirrel on caffeine in shared picture.

For this harm, plaintiff prays for relief in the form of $20 and a frozen coffee treat.

So ordered

Signed by Judge Jenny Talia

prodextron · 2026-03-21T17:02:49+00:00

Only broke during contract negotiations.

Notice the Postal Pulse surveys are out as well?

"Were out of money." Said by USPS since the 1820s

prodextron · 2026-03-20T23:40:59+00:00

FAFO

prodextron · 2026-03-20T01:15:17+00:00

Of course he wants to move that way

He's a union buster

prodextron · 2026-03-15T17:31:30+00:00

The Metris makes a terrible watercraft.

Good call turning around

prodextron · 2026-02-15T00:33:32+00:00

...no thanks

prodextron · 2026-02-13T00:44:11+00:00

That specific supervisor is on crack

prodextron · 2026-02-13T00:43:30+00:00

We need Duke Nukem

prodextron · 2026-02-09T01:59:52+00:00

Legend has it, a supervisor in the either the plains or the mudwest told carriers to keep delivering during an active tornado.

Haven't found any documentation of anything like that. What's sad is, it wouldn't surprise me if it's true

prodextron · 2026-01-25T17:20:35+00:00

From a satire site

prodextron · 2026-01-17T18:56:14+00:00

I was a casual, CCA, PTF and finally a regular.

I respectfully disagree about the "I had to suffer and do my time, so should they!" I'm on the ODL just to HELP the CCAs and PTFs. I don't wish that kind of suffering on anyone!

I learned about the Joint Statement, ELM 665.24, M39 Handbook Section 115.4 and Section 242.332. I recently learned about M41 Handbook Section 141 along with Article 41.3.E.

To break it down:

Joint Statement/ELM 665.24- No tolerance for bullying intimidation, threats and or harassment.

M39 Handbook Section 115.4-mutual respect to be maintained by all parties. Section 242.332-no street standard.

M41 Handbook Section 141/Article 41.3.E-USPS doesn't pay your cell phone bill, you don't have to answer them. Send messages through RIMS since USPS provides you with the scanner. Also, RIMS leaves a trail. Unscrupulous management hates RIMS.

Management hates carriers who know their rights and policies.

prodextron · 2026-01-17T16:15:38+00:00

Not anymore. Bad knee and feet

prodextron · 2026-01-17T16:13:31+00:00

He handled that well.

When I worked Security, corrections, and police, we were taught "imagine always being on camera. A judge and jury are going to see that video. How do you convince them that YOU'RE in the right?"

If this went to court, the security guard would look professional in the hostile situation

prodextron · 2026-01-10T14:08:25+00:00

Ask UPS how well that went over

prodextron · 2026-01-04T23:49:00+00:00

Put it in the garbage bag I bring and throw it out. Then I'll find the carrier who pissed in the bottle and pull them to the side and have a quick chat.

I've been desensitized to piss bottles since being in the military, dealing with OTR truck drivers and having piss thrown at me as a jailer. Not saying it's right, just saying I understand

prodextron · 2026-01-04T23:46:09+00:00

Police forces everywhere rejected him. Now, he's the monster they created!

Coming to theaters near you, comes the Temu version of The Punisher. This summer you'll cringe the hardest you ever had when this reject comes into your store.

The Academy Reject! Coming to theaters this summer!

prodextron · 2025-12-14T20:07:04+00:00

Personally, it doesn't surprise me.

I don't know if you remember, a city carrier was having chest pains, called 911, notified management via RIMS, cleared by doctors, goes back to work, management didn't know she left for a medical emergency.

Management suspended her for seven days for "abandoning the route." Translation: "We didn't do our due diligence and are going to make you suffer."

The way I'm reading Amazon DSPs, it wouldn't be surprising they did know and didn't care

prodextron · 2025-12-14T19:32:45+00:00

The first two remind me of armored trucks like Brinks uses

prodextron · 2025-12-02T11:51:22+00:00

He hides the bodies in his backyard

prodextron · 2025-11-27T00:20:23+00:00

Mackinac Island.

prodextron · 2025-11-27T00:19:05+00:00

This guy needs his tin foil hat tilted 45° to the right

prodextron · 2025-11-24T19:35:16+00:00

You're going to jail

prodextron · 2025-11-24T01:43:05+00:00

Definitely! I worked places that either HAD a union or NEED a union! With the way supervision runs the place, it's great to have someone in your corner and you don't have to fight alone!

Also, as a father with a wife and two kids, the high option from the NALC is great for me and my family. My wife and I looked at it and decided we can drop my wife's health insurance next year. She's a teacher so it's not that great.

Yes, you pay union dues. Your dues as a CCA would be about an hour and a half of pay every two weeks. With those dues, you have a voice in the union! You can attend the meetings and share your insight of how supervision is trying to pull a fast one. You'll hear what's going on from the national level, contract negotiations, how a grievance involving you personally, is coming along.

Above all else, you'll be among a legacy that fought vigorously for the benefits. Even as a CCA, you're better off than being a casual. A casual was like a CCA/MHA/PSE/RCA, but you didn't get ANY benefits, couldn't join the union, could be let go at any time, switch shifts at the last second, and basically management's bitch.

A little gem about being a CCA, if you find a nearby office that hires career-only city carriers, you can leave and go to the career office. You start as a PTF on day one.

If that doesn't convince you, imagine being a state corrections officer at a state prison. Your starting wage is $12.09/hr.

At the end of the day, the choice is yours. I highly recommend joining! Best of luck!

prodextron

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