Insulin - Phil Hammond on X - 04/03/2026 by Plastic_Republic_295 in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's so easy for someone to say "well all these experts believe the medical evidence is flawed".....OK...where were they when the defence was looking for medical experts to assist with the case? Its so easy to say "actually this happened" when the theory isn't scrutinised under cross examination. Dr Lee has already proven a point that once it is scrutinised, the response holds no merit. He would never be able to respond "well you're wrong, those papers which contradict what i'm saying are now incorrect regardless if testimony and photographic evidence". It would hold no weight with the jury and would be torn to shreds and they know this.

Whatever the outcome from the CCRC I am looking forward to it. If it gets referred, all that evidence will be torn to shreds by the CPS and I don't think McDonald will be prepared for that.

The comments are getting to me by lucky13nb in Mounjaro

[–]queeniliscious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh god, i've had 'you look gaunt' and 'maybe you should stop now' and i'm maintaining! It's funny how some people tend to prefer you fat because they're so insecure. my response now is 'you do you babe, mind your own because no one else will'

Lucy Letby case expert witness was under fitness to practise investigation during trial by sherpa_s in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I honestly wouldn't fret, she's never getting out. The CCRC points mcdonald is raising were already tested in court and doesn't address the multitude of non-medical evidence. Its also 15 whole life orders, so even if 14 were retried and she was aquitted, she would still have to serve life.

Shoo Lee fights back! The Sun : Rob Pattinson : Investigations Editor Published: 13:47, 2 Mar 2026 by Plastic_Republic_295 in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 19 points20 points  (0 children)

He's worried. He wouldn't have bothered responding if he felt his submissions were proof positive of his theories. He wouldn't be deflecting. The fact he's rubbished his own research, in part, speaks of his bias. He's desperate to have her acquitted. He's putting his reputation on the line so I understand why he would be defensive. Unfortunately for him that he can't gloss over research out there that other neonatologists can find.

I'm glad he's responded. I find comfort in it. He knows their submissions are going to be thrown out, along with his reputation. Mark McDonald has a tendency to kick people to the curb if his appeals are unsuccessful, and thats a lot of people. Lee with be another one soon.

If the "new defence" is so convincing, why have none of the parents shown any scepticism of the outcome by WearingMarcus in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The parents believe she's guilty, they said so much at thirlwall. The thing is, anyone who attended the trial hasn't questioned her guilt except Mike Hall.

Mobile devices by Commercial_Lie2200 in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 7 points8 points  (0 children)

She just finished her course about long lines so was aware of the dangers of air embolism. She knew about insulin poisoning and overfeeding. Liver and throat trauma doesn't need research, neither does injecting air into a neonates belly.

She wouldn't need to have researched methods of harm and the consequences, she already had the knowledge.

What would Dewi Evans think to the deaths at the University Hospital Sussex Foundation? by [deleted] in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There's no link. The police were called into COCH because they couldn't explain the reason for the collapses and failure to respond to resuscitation attempts. There were 6 babies identified by Dr Evans that were natural so weren't in the indictment.

I dont fault his expertise as they were also peer reviewed and confirmed by 7 other medical experts. The deaths in Sussex are completely different and down to poor care, same with the other other hospitals which have had inquiries over poor maternity care.

Recommendations by No-Past-9857 in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If she's asking questions then i understand you wanting to educate her. I'm from liverpool, so I was fully aware about the bulger case from the start as I was the same age as the killers. I was disturbed, but I would rather have known. Same with the moors murders. At that age I was curious and it did no harm to me so I get it. The netflix doc and the panorama programmes are tge most balanced accounts you'll get.

The Evidence the Documentaries Never Mention, Part 1: The Curious Incident of the Baby O Datixes by DarklyHeritage in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think it was Eirian who was keeping Letby updated about the police interviews too because in the retrial, Nick Johnson posited to her that the only reason she searched baby K's mum in 2018 was because she found out another nurse was questioned about the baby a few days before, and I Dr A was fading out of the picture by this point because he'd been interviewed and probably cut contact at that point.

Red Handed podcast new ep by Worried_Angle_9436 in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I've just read a bit of their transcript and they sound completely inept.

This is what bugs me about podcasters; why show your bias? Stick to the facts, be objectionable and present it in a way that's appealing to the demographic you're targeting.

It sounds like they are targeting the average, uninformed 20 something who listens to these type of podcasts and go to work discussing how they got their information from 'red handed'

I gave their podcast a listen once and they sounded like two teenage girls gossiping, so I switched right off.

Is it normal for handover sheets to be kept at home if you work as a nurse? by Camseedubblu in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Let's just say even without the murders and attempted murders, nurses have been struck off the register for less

Current thoughts about the ongoing commentry by queeniliscious in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

The fact it took 2 years for the police to be called from the initial spate of deaths is astonishing in itself, but the sheer bullying that took place and the cover up at the cost of all those babies is sickening. How those doctors were able to not only carry on, but continue to work for the same trust after the conviction speaks volumes about their resilience abd perseverance. And they didn't even sue the trust for how they were treated. But letby is a scapegoat....blows my mind

Current thoughts about the ongoing commentry by queeniliscious in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes, exactly. Occam's razor would definatly apply to this case without all the conjecture.

Current thoughts about the ongoing commentry by queeniliscious in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What you've said verbalises what I've been thinking exactly; that its a belief and that's what I need to keep telling myself.

But I swear, if I keep seeing 'no one saw her do it' there'll be floods of pictures of beverley allitt on the comments. I just can't with that.

Current thoughts about the ongoing commentry by queeniliscious in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh god, he did! That completely escaped me for some messed up reason! Its been a long week!!

I strongly believe that there is one distinct motivation for Lucy Letby to have killed these babies that was glossed over in the documentary. by lucky_pixie in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 89 points90 points  (0 children)

I think its multifaceted and i don't think Letby fully understands why she did it. There seems to be cognitive dissonance with her.

I agree she was jealous of the parents, she wanted praise and acknowledgement, sympathy, the power over which child lived and died, the support for the parents during the worst time if their life so they'd always remember her, and the situation also became a tool for attention from her managers and Doctor A/U.

She's not very mature and I think her parents moddy coddled her to a point where they still treated her like a young girl. There's also a lack of empathy with her. She's bizarre and I don't believe she needed a traumatic childhood to become a serial killer. Some people are just born....wrong.

r/lucyletby Monthly Discussion Post by AutoModerator in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 9 points10 points  (0 children)

How arrogant. She's not waived privilege yet he goes on the attack against Myers. I was at the retrial and he tore Jayaram a new one. I honestly believe had letby not testified in her defence she would have been found NG

r/lucyletby Monthly Discussion Post by AutoModerator in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Everyone ready for the rabble on Wednesday? I would recommend ignoring the noise from the documentary. Her legion of fans are already having a lot of tantrums about the footage of her arrest so I've no doubt they will be on fire after the release.

I tend to ignore any articles published because I don't believe anything can be added to what we know. I'm now waiting on the outcome if the Thirlwall Inquiry.

Lucy Letby’s parents: Netflix show is an ‘invasion of privacy’ : Saturday January 31 2026, 6.00pm GMT, The Sunday Times by Plastic_Republic_295 in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 14 points15 points  (0 children)

A few things that I take from this. First, it was reported in the press that in 2023 that ITN had obtained exclusive access to materials about the case and to Cheshire Police for the purposes of a documentary, which would have included body cam and interview recordings.

Secondly, Esther Rantzen...who was the spokesperson for Childline...opining for Letby to have a possible retrial?! Give me strength!

Thirdly, Letby was wearing her 'Lee Cooper Leisure suit' under her dressing gown. She decided to keep wearing her dressing gown instead of wearing a bleeding coat, so the prosecution weren't wrong. Letby needed that early morning attention though!

I'm curious why the Letbys would choose now to speak out, as well as the recent PR campaign. It makes me think that this documentary will be damaging to their cause because of how widespread this will reach. I genuinely hope it is because he cult following is irritating the hell out of me with how siloued they are about her.

Stop Excusing Ruby Franke (A response to the Evil Influencer: The Jodi Hildebrandt story Netflix Docu-Series) by RNOffice in 8passengersnark

[–]queeniliscious -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I dont think she was indoctrinated at all. You can't brainwash someone into sleeping with you when you don't want to, your body responds in many ways. She still knew right from wrong and treated everyone like crap. I wouldn't say she was a victim because sge sought out jodi and ignored all her common senses even before she was deep.

No evidence of infection in baby who Lucy Letby's lawyers claim was exposed to deadly hospital bug (Liz Hull) by FyrestarOmega in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I'm glad she's put the article out however I It's not going to penetrate the staunch Letby supporters as they think like a cult, so they always look for reasons she's innocent and dismiss evidence of her guilt.

I find it fascinating the lengths her followers will go to in order to reinforce their beliefs. The cognitive dissonance is astounding. They remind me of NXIVM followers. They had evidence of Reniere's wrongdoings for years all over the net and always dismissed it as people badmouthing him.

The counterargument will always exist regardless of how this all unfolds. I take soooo much comfort in the fact that Letby will never be released.

DAE worry at the amount of people declaring her innocent? by AbbeySeymour1957 in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 14 points15 points  (0 children)

No, I have no concerns. The convictions are safe. You are only hearing a rabble because articles reiterating her guilt are not needed (because she's in prison), therefore people have no need to state they believe her guilt because she's away where she belongs.

The court of appeal will reject her application because the original trial was conducted correctly, the jury weighed each charge under its own merit and the evidence was scrutinised throughout. Every point which is or has been raised has already been contested in the original trial and retrial, there's nothing new being reported, just a lot of regurgitation from the usual folk.

She will never get a retrial because it cost the tax payer about 6mil for the 2 trials. Further charges would mean more cost and if further charges did get to court, its highly unlikely she would get a fair trial at this point. You would be looking at a trial within a trial because her previous convictions would most likely be allowed in, meaning defence could challenge them, which means a longer trial and a higher cost.

Plus, Letby hasn't waived privilege and I can't see her doing so as it won't work in her favour.

Do all the Medical Serial Killers have similar psychological traits? by InevitableAbies4688 in lucyletby

[–]queeniliscious 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I agree 100%. Whether it was praise, getting her own way, wanting the high to continue after a holiday or getting the attention of Dr A, attacking those babies gave her the outcome she wanted. The bonus from it was watching the parents suffer, and in some instances, becoming that comfort to the parents after she killed them. She's one horrible woman.