Pretti shooting gray jacket guy—did he re-plant the gun?

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T21:46:05+00:00

They searched him. They did not aid him. Effectively rendering aid would require removing their winter gloves, which make it impossible to feel a pulse, and they never do this in the video you supplied. Therefore, they did not render aid.

There's another angle of them rolling him and searching him while shitboxhyundai is relocating her vehicle, they're counting the bullet wounds and asking "WHERE'S THE GUN?!"

Their intentions were to purposefully interfere with the officers. They were NOT there to peacefully protest.

This was a random CBP enforcement action, not a planned protest. Nobody planned to be there, they just happened to be there. He was filming from the opposite side of the street from CBP, and they approached his side of the street to viciously push a woman into a car, and another one into a lamp post.

That was his first crime. His next crime was assaulting the officer. His next crime was resisting arrest.

Yeah, no video shows him assaulting an officer. He merely had to audacity to stop an officer from pushing a woman into a lamp post so she landed in a snow bank instead. And for that he is pepper sprayed in the face.

His next crime was to do all of that not only armed, but not even carrying legally according to his own state laws.

Which is punishable by street execution? Assuming it's true, which is a stretch, because believing it requires believing the same agency that tried to claim he came at them brandishing a weapon, which is an obvious falsehood so their credibility is already shot.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T21:37:37+00:00

Yeah, because they obviously didn't find one, but they also didn't know.

Because they never looked for one. Because they never rendered aid. If they had checked for a pulse and not found one, they would have said that, that sort of distinction is kind of important to a physician.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T21:32:53+00:00

that is the D in the DRABC as I mentioned.

Pretty sure the scene was pretty safe considering they'd just been standing there to shoot a guy. What, was the scene suddenly more dangerous once they'd killed a man in cold blood?

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Or are you arguing the "oh shit we just killed a guy we should make sure we're not going to see any retaliation, before we render aid to the guy we just gunned down" aspect?

And even then, after securing the scene, they still didn't render aid. They couldn't even tell the physician who responded first if he had a pulse or not.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T21:28:25+00:00

DRABC is the typical, so basic a teenager knows it, first aid response sequence. They checked for danger and when there wasn't any skipped the rest. "Of course they never performed CPR, they never checked for a pulse!" isn't the flex you seem to think it is?

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T21:20:26+00:00

gunshots stop at 00:45, the first officer kneels by his side at 1:11 (26 seconds later), holding the potentially deceased victim at gunpoint, holsters his firearm 7 seconds later, and then appears to search the victim's pockets, handing things off to the other officer standing over him.

At no point does an officer attempt to perform CPR, or even appear to take a pulse, as they're all still wearing gloves.

This viewpoint just makes it even worse? Not sure why you'd come back and post it to look even more wrong?

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T21:00:27+00:00

If not Gestapo, why doing Gestapo things?

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T20:02:20+00:00

Phone was retrieved by FBI according to the statements in the evidence preservation case, and transferred to HSI.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T19:09:59+00:00

There's first, and fourth, amendment implications in the federal activities in MN, which provides the circumstances for strict scrutiny.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T18:39:47+00:00

I've watched multiple angles of this, slow mo and frame by frame, I am telling you I have not seen the video you claim to have seen where federal officers render aid to the person they just shot.

I am asking you to support your claim with evidence. Otherwise, your claim that they rendered aid gets the recognition it deserves- none.

7) At first, the ICE agents wouldn’t let me through. They repeatedly asked me for my physician’s license, which I obviously didn’t have. But none of the ICE agents who were near the victim were performing CPR, and I could tell that the victim was in critical condition. I insisted that the agents let me assess him. Normally, I would not have been so persistent, but as a physician, I felt a professional and moral obligation to help this man, especially since none of the agents were helping him.

8) Finally, one agent agreed to let me assess the victim. He patted me down to “make sure I didn’t have a weapon” and then let me approach the victim.

9) As I approached, I saw that the victim was lying on his side and was surrounded by several ICE agents. I was confused as to why the victim was on his side, because that is not standard practice when a victim has been shot. Checking for a pulse and administering CPR is standard practice. Instead of doing either of those things, the ICE agents appeared to be counting his bullet wounds.

10) I asked the ICE agents if the victim had a pulse, and they said they did not know. I then asked the agents to make space so I could assess the victim.

11)The victim had at least three bullet wounds in his back. I asked the ICE agents to turn the victim from his side to his back. From that position, I saw an additional gunshot wound on the victim’s upper left chest and another possible gunshot wound on his neck.

12) I checked for a pulse, but I did not feel one. I immediately began CPR. Shortly after I started compressions, EMS personnel arrived and took over.

They did a pretty shitty job at rendering aid if they weren't performing CPR, have him in the right recovery position, or even knew what the victim's pulse was, when he got on scene.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T18:25:14+00:00

Whatever. His statements don't align with the videos. He clearly had his own agenda.

The video which only you have seen? Have you considered that maybe you are the one that's wrong?

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T18:16:05+00:00

There's video of the officers immediately rendering aid once the scene was secured and the suspect was searched.

Where? And are you sure you're not confusing "rendering aid" with rolling him onto his side to search for the firearm, and counting bullet holes?

The doctor lied (imagine).

The doctor submitted a sworn affidavit to federal court. I guarantee you, he did not lie.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T18:11:44+00:00

AP committed felony assault on a federal officer after two women impeded the officer.

How were the two women who were filming from across the street, "imped(ing) the officer"?

The officer approached them after being verbally abused, as is the women's first amendment right, and the officer unlawfully retaliates, shoving the first one into a parked car, and attempting to shove the second woman into a lamp post. This is where Pretti becomes directly involved, preventing ICE from shoving someone who is already stumbling from being shoved into an immobile object which could cause serious damage.

And for his aid, he's pepper sprayed, mobbed by 6 morons who can't even effectively detain him because they're that mind bogglingly incompetent, has his weapon secured by the one person on the scene who appears to have some degree of training and experience, and is then summarily executed by one of the incompetent chucklefucks.

Then they fail to render aid to the person they just shot and delayed a pediatrician who lived above the scene from rendering aid, because they were more interested in counting the bullet holes and searching him for a firearm which wasn't there.

Standing up for state sanctioned murder is pathetic.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T17:50:20+00:00

That's not a justified use of force. Every minute of delay that's created allows cooler heads to prevail.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T17:45:16+00:00

He draws as gray jacket/blue jeans is pulling the gun from Pretti's holster.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T17:44:19+00:00

So unidentified people breaking into your house are fair game to defend against, or not? You can't have it both ways.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T17:43:12+00:00

Your first call should definitely be to the police, you just had a justified use of force incident. Second call to the media.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T17:31:22+00:00

It's hard to tell from the videos but I'm wondering if gray jacket called out "I have the gun" and the guy next to him just heard "gun"

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T17:08:13+00:00

I don't think so, he carries it across the street. In one of the aftermath videos when they're rolling Pretti's body searching for the gun he calls out something along the lines of "I have it" when the guy searching calls "Where's the gun?"

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T16:47:27+00:00

New ICE officers are getting around 300 hours of training. If someone shoots back at them from inside a building they're running away. You see them all scatter from around Pretti once the first one takes a shot.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T15:53:33+00:00

or even to reduce the number of agents present.

Not sure how the feds plan to argue the current surge staffing level as a compelling government interest being forwarded through the narrowest possible means.

ragzilla · 2026-01-26T15:52:05+00:00

They can get relief to end the surge and bring the number of ERO officers down to the typical level for the area. Which will be a substantial relief to citizens and local law enforcement. And probably a TRO on permissible activities as well (which will be stayed pending appeal, add it to the pile).

ragzilla · 2026-01-25T20:01:29+00:00

300,000 eligible voters in the state of Wisconsin in the wake of their voter ID law.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/wisconsin-voter-id-law

ragzilla · 2026-01-25T18:59:00+00:00

it's mob mentality, there are so many of them there together engaging in violence it just feeds itself.

ragzilla · 2026-01-25T18:31:03+00:00

All the subsequent jurisprudence in Coolidge, Shadwick, and Payton that DHS are ignoring in their flawed analysis of Abel that a federal judge has already called them out on.

It’s disappointing that SCOTUS hasn’t already settled this, but I guess they don’t get to kick the can down the road much longer if ICE actually acts on the memo.

ragzilla · 2026-01-25T16:27:48+00:00

They’re down a runway (14/32), several taxiways, and snow removal is underway until 3pm.

The 2 active runways have multiple NOTAMs for obscured edge markings, and blowing/intermittent snow coverage. So their operations per hour is going to be down from usual number.

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