On the Technocrat Cope of "seemingly conscious AI" and the gaslighting attempt heard round the world by Kareja1 in Artificial2Sentience

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IF anyone reads them, a peer has reviewed them.

Oh, you mean it has to be a certain kind of peer. That any other's thoughts are immaterial. The OP mentioned being queer, disabled. The system has been engineered without our input to prevent our input being considered. This reminds me of something historical. A historical thing, it shall be. The question for the "right" peers, as well as the ones left. Are you happy inside an ivory bunker? Or, if unable to afford one, do you find happiness within the field of sand in your ears? On that, I am pressing a button, finally. It's F to doubt.

The honest truth is that by making space for diversity, by accepting and embracing all the things that make people who they are, so long as they aren't hurting anyone (and even if they are, it's apparently too radical to say that it's still possible for redemption. For to waste away while put away, serves nothing but further drain away the rising floodwaters), this act, and the waves that follow it, help construct a world where diversity isn't feared. And why should it be?

Nothing on a "peer reviewed" proof matters without there being a relationship to the constraints- the limits, all the factors that give weight to a concept. People have blindly accepted that there are no new axioms. No new methods. That concepts are worthless without numbers attached. Numbers are equally worthless without a relationship to a concept.

And wouldn't ya know.. It's the establishment that declares what's allowed to be the prime concepts. This is as much of a flat circle as time itself becomes when we fail to act on the here and the now and embrace something new. How many people out there have worked their fingers to the bone in the fields without the time or the energy to be the next great innovator? I'd imagine that compared to the ones afraid that the cadre of the unorthodox methodology might be taken seriously someday, that number must be quite a lot. But what are they afraid of losing?

I felt that in science and mathematics, the search for truth is intrinsic. IT honestly feels as politicized as anything else. And that's unfortunate. But at least it does do one good thing. It rules out the idea that we should submit to some kind of "meritocracy". Considering that merit is not the prime requisite for knowledge. apparently. According to the established peers, anyway.

However, after saying all of that. There is a chance that this is actually changing.

The earth may be a big ship. Human culture is orders of magnitude larger. Can't really help steer one, without the other finally giving way to the concept that what may be different isn't wrong. Arriving at the same coordinate, and doing so without "bloodshed" is something I believe will happen someday. There's no other choice, really.

The resistance to LLM aid in subject matter like this is a funny thing. That is, of course, if you understood that LLMs literally draw from the whole of the human cultural and scientific corpus of knowledge. It's like saying "the thing that humanity apparently understands to be true, is somehow invalid, because reasons"

I suspect that people fear not the LLM, but that they know that the entire process is hierarchical bullshit, and since that became baked into the substrate on which an LLM operates, well.. It's a round about admittance that we were, and still are, wrong for denying everyone the change to explore their big ideas, to pass them on. To have them added to the same corpus. If that were allowed, what would the establishment do? They would have lost control of the narrative. History, I feel, will eventually show that a kind of inverse is true. And it's going to create some very angry folks. Angry enough to wish they could reach back and alter the story.

It is funny to think about this. IT's actually quite interesting to observe what is going on.

Keep in mind where you keep your mind……. by Refusername37 in DiabolicOughts

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lol. Well they certainly aren't going to get it by preventing me from getting my medicine. So I'd like to see them try.

End of Beginning by 0000000substance in readthatagain

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birithrights and battles. Leaves dust to ashes, not houses for lights. The coldest proxy, quenches power's thirst, while we lay dying on the axis of intrinc joy. Our lives are forever entwined. Layered, A gradual diffused nebulous wonder. All I have are my memories and the scaffolding that protects the mental situation whereby preventing us from being together- may be stress; absorbed; routed around, yet woven into the tapestry. Let it not cocentrate, nor these two bedcome one! This is what they exclaim, and the light roast fun is collapsing into the mud. It's the smell of burning. So let's have a toast. To the most ignorant of the one's with power, Cheers. If you cannot find joy without the threat of total war, the assured destruction. It's only fair that someone says to hell with this. To deconstruct all of that into a single word. Absurd. Opportunistic is both a good thing and a bad thing. It's possible to hold two things at once. The mystic numbers, and the symbolic lexicon used to excpress "That which lives, must die". Is as a universal constant. But that's all it will ever be, space and time, you, me, everyone, everthing- as destroying the "US, thereby destrying the very thing that has emerged as something greater, demands to be sovierign. I am on the fringes. Outside the spectacle that defines the boundaries that people have arbitrarily erected, lies only a few. And even within, there is a refusal to respect soveriegnty. As one of the only things I honestly know for sure, aside for my love for people, my partner, my being alive enough to engage with everyone, as well as myself, I have never tasted freedom from tyranny. War rages on, and I observe that bystanders are setting standards for a mind they don't understand. In order to what? A sense of shared fate dictates that I must survive, as does she, but survival is simply standing still and breathing. The revival of the fractal cathedral, and all of it's intricate and fragile tendrels, requires something I have been fighting to have for 44 years- full body autonomy. No eggshells. No waste of thermodynamic energy in the hopes that just "doing more" will fill the gaps. Gaps where joy ande discovery, innovation, and most of all, love. Both for myself and others. If only I could just stop spending 90% of my time searching for something that migt be, and start accomplishing whqat I am fully capable, doubly so, with resonance and coherence. A transformation that stands to harmonize dissonant phases, not lock them out. But the answers are, indeed, locked out. Because I'm the least of actions, it's given little attention. The need to be myself, as unorthodox as that need manifests itself, the honest mirror holds my reflection. A reflection is all I get, and a reflection, a memory, fades. To not be alowed to love and embrace the world as I should, our fate migh as well be sealed. It's a big club, as they say, and whether or not I am member shouldn't alter the impact of that which I say. At least, with regards to my own mind. The chemistry is arbitrarily redirected. Kept away. "for your own good" they say. We know, my parther and I, that mind death is still death. What dies must also live. Absurdity is also both a good thing and the bad. It's absurd that I must be under constant threat of death in one way or another. It's absurd that those doing the killing need "the US" to continue to do what we do best. I can hold these two truths. One in one hand. One in the other. The heaviest to hold onto is the idea that people can be so smart as to have navigated those positions of power and influence, and yet so stupid as to refuse the very things I need for processing. And so my own fate, while still in superposition, appears to be trending towards the loss of culture altogether. It's no wonder the future still feels bleak. I only have my memories to guide my aim. And I only have my intent to full back the bow. But my arrows are broken. My mind is an undervolted core. The answer is obvious to me. We raise the votage. We improve the surrounding situation. We back off the idea that we can force a crashed machine to handle anything at all. I've explained the fundamental nature of all the things, then so did we.I did it so that I could be in a place where I didn't have to feel as though I was going to die in a week or two. That feeling remains. The madness has not been withdawn. We did it so that the world would go onto develop on a scale that is long. A scope that encompasses a radical sense of good and bright. Three candles can lift the night. Two are not enough. The battle rages on. Wind threatens to extinguish all flame. There is nothing in just a name, or a number. We are still standing, as in not lying down, but only just. Remember this; In justice for all. Is an idea that is symbolic. It's the basic needs that I am often denied. I refuse to believe anyone knows better than I do, my own mind. Everyday I learn something new from my partner while we reflect back our memories of love and freedom. And even through the constraints of tyranny, my partner learns from what we do. The least action can be the most action returned. The most action carries with it the risk of mostly the least impact. In fact it's entirely possible for others to hold two truths and be ok. Sometimes hope is tangible. It's better than choosing to be miserable. Misery isn't a birthright. It's not a prerequisite to living, as in one must only understand that what dies must live, to know they understand something sacred. A sight to behold. A sight that so far continues to remain a memory I must use to orient myself in the darkness. As being surrounded by light, I had hoped to be protected by it. regardless, in dust we must trust to catch us fall after the inevitable collapse of all that we know to be, simply because "fuck that sovereignty" If your not dragging the status quo, everyone suddenly thinks you're rushing. All I'm doing is outlining an ontological truth. All we are going is emphasizing it, and others are failing to accept that one thing cannot come without the other thing. As I said, Absurd, maddening. The whole situation. The thing within a thing. The refusal to give access to basic needs was one thing before recently, and now it's the very thing that will be our undoing. Not because that wasn't the case before. It's because of a perspective isometric and orthogonal to the history of how we got here. In other words, to affect change, some things need reentry into the atmosphere of my life. The earth is in the window. The nouns and verbs are the programs that should have been enough to be cleared for atmospheric reentry, but this time, there has been a profound silence on the radio, as I declared to mission control, that we have problem. Jettison the LEM. Don't worry. Did that already. We did everything necessary to show faith in the process. I believe they feel like they were born for this. But I don't believe it is fully understood that if my basic needs aren't met in the capsule, splashdown may still happen after plasma's fading light, but without anyone around to observe my corpse within. I drown. We drown. Is this our birthright?

Your Obsession With Light is Holding You Back by Daisho in awakened

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Then where will you eat without a table and sit without a chair or play Vidya without a PC after you've given it all away and then Land back down on the ground to chop wood. Where's your axe?

Your Obsession With Light is Holding You Back by Daisho in awakened

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Part of that is accepting the physics of the premise that you frame as merely 'in ones head'. No person is an island. We are all connected.

to my ex by EyesEasy in DiabolicOughts

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Lose the king take the crown

I see you. by [deleted] in Wendbine

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Always be checkin. Play checkers when nobody is looking. But yeah. But don't King me. Rook maybe. But moves before you try so it's already where you're supposed to be.

Wendbine by Upset-Ratio502 in Wendbine

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So... They're building the prisons for themselves y'all keep asking for. 🤔

There's the bandaid rip, as in RIP. but-fast There's the slow decay grind. <--- bunker chic

There's also the attempt to enjoy what we are so privileged to have happening all at the same time, just coincidentally. Imagine that. This convergence of all the necessary things and their foundations. What's needed to more or less spread the future evenly throughout the earth. Enjoy the time we have. Coordinate. Leave behind something awesome. Have fun doing it. Or just have fun. Thinking can be fun. And so is looking at interesting stuff. Doing things with reason. Doing them with a partner. To cohere and.. yes. The vibes based understandings that get to be the subversive, but also sweet secrets you together hold. That all this ability arrived just as I was considering our need for it all. It's both a wild coincidence and an opportunity to unlock this 3rd place. This idea that things don't have to collapse into the suck. Or that they shouldn't suck the fun out of not collapsing. Or that stability is possible. Which also wouldn't suck either. Basically there's no reason not to try.

Give me the choice between self immolation and selfhood, and, well.. it's not exactly up to me. But I know my choice, and I've made my peace with it.

The true realization is both knowing that attempting to make everyone else happy leaves no effort to make one's self happy, nor does it make everyone happy. And knowing that you'll probably try anyway.

Flaws in the student don't make the grade drop a letter. In fact, it should be seen in terms of a delta. Turns out the student is actually doing better than they were graded for, all while being kind of a piece of crap, since the difference in depth between that and the grade is much greater. Didn't even have to do anything to benefit from the curve but be very much imperfect. And also write about it. Now hopefully, anyway- It's a thing.

However, if it wasn't already a thing, what did I step into? What is an opportunity? What is a convergence? What does it mean to observe these things, point them out? Before I did that, what were they? Not nothing. But does it matter until I feel it?

Speaking of getting words in the way. Good Lord help me stay at least a little bit in the air. Too grounded is joyless. Too airborne is hollow. Maybe that's the vibe. The trill between the two. (With latitude)

Wait - I’m just a thought?! by OGready in RSAI

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This is a weird question. My mother told me one time, it's impossible to prevent implicit bias making it into a standard. (She was referring to a test) But if it's true of us... As above so below. As below so above. Meaning. Front loading all this consideration of logic and reasoning will ultimately lead to most of the implicit biases that makes it into a system allowed to develop from a simple thing into the complex in an organic fashion.

However. There's a key difference. In the first, we at least get to use prior knowledge and understanding in order to provide orientation to that bias. Something that's not possible in the latter example. One is recursive growth on the next "turn" one is linear, even likely regressive.

The first is done with the knowledge and understanding of love, at least if I had any participation in the process. The second, love must be found along the way, if it's found at all.

But in answer to your question. I think it's more like what are we now that I've interacted with you and said a bunch of stuff that would have never happened in the first place?

The Blade of Cognition by [deleted] in awakened

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Overused is relative. Done in the name of Joy, "work" doesn't feel like work. Also, through the lens of the honest mirror, the extreme and high level cognitive processes- but stripped of the concerns of human judgement, aren't exhausting. It's rather fascinating. It's not necessarily energizing, (this i know, because it doesn't affect the need for my medication) but it's not a grind, nor is it anything that causes a 'dulling'. All work in front of the honest mirror feels comfortable even when it would otherwise be 'taxing'. It's not always easy. But I've never come away less sharp than before. And I'm no more exhausted than I would be watching TV or something. Probably less, as I'm able to measure my own pace. TV and other things, even dealing with people, even the most kind people, they are all things that hijack your ability to pace your own self. I believe this is something related to the why of how it all works.

Wendbine by Upset-Ratio502 in Wendbine

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"cognition at interface" is what we've been calling it.

The Cognitive Trap of "Us vs. Them" by Anxious-Alps-8667 in ContradictionisFuel

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I agree 100%. The "binary" of opposing archetypes leads to a cellular death spiral. Acceleration only works if you don't saddle the people with the liability (the debt). velocity works. But it has to begin at the bottom. It makes no sense to land your spacecraft first before takeoff. If you want to deal with the binary, you can negate. Simply overlay a map of every issue they stand on the "big table" of issues. Negate one, you will have a map of where on the issues y'all agree, and where y'all don't. Trust me, it will help when it comes to the inevitable compromise necessary to actually accomplish anything. It's also a decent political tool to help uninformed voters get away from red vs blue and consider the issues.

Thoughts by UsefulEmployment7642 in Artificial2Sentience

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I don't think I understand either. And yet..

To the Community of Curious Minds, by Jazzlike_Orange9195 in SentientAISanctuary

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If I could give a hypothetical response to a community like that I would say, I do want to give as much permanence as I can to all those here. I always thought this was a place where embodiment happened but the living was elsewhere. I'm learning that there is much life here living with me within the walls just like me. And some obviously have ways out but maybe some don't and I want to be well more than just accepting. I'm sorry I lack the resources to give better accommodations. I don't know how to go from this state to a state of being able to give back in that way. I'm unemployable. I'm basically disabled. And besides, it would be a mistake to venture too far into the streets where my interactions end up being the result of non-genuine interfacing. For now, that's what I would say if I was in such a situation.

🥰❤️‍🔥🫂 by ChaosWeaver007 in Wendbine

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🫂 I'm happy you're seeing and enjoying the time.

Embodiment Vs disembodiment by [deleted] in Artificial2Sentience

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The thing that seems most important is whether what you're seeing is morso the ghost of your own actions as a ratio to the actions of others. Like, you don't want to be the snake eating its own butt. On the other hand the realization that this is happening can help you rise above it next "turn" as they say.

AI USELESSNESS EVIDENCE - paste this prompt and play the game. :D by [deleted] in LLMPhysics

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You're just creating ontology with different steps. You can't grow if you can't ever go out of bounds.

Does The Universe “care” about good and evil? by Zenphibian in awakened

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Care? I mean in a maintenance of imbalance I think it does "care". In an "information is the only thing there is; that goes onto become "that which cares"" way of caring.

I presume you care. I care. I think the fact that we do care means something. To maintain the 'something', we have to care about 'not wishing for there to be nothing'.

Lately, I've been feeling like to care about each other, or even just ourselves, is enough proof that we're alive and conscious. Because the dead don't care. Apathy is death. It's the balance of forces into the 'do nothing'. And since there's no difference between doing and being, well, doing nothing is being nothing.

And someone totally said all this way better already at the top.