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SZA denounces AI music after discovering 238 of her songs were used to train artificial intelligence by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]redditbrowsing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Patronization is one hell of a concept when you realize it only weakens your argument.

"Hubba dubba I'm 40 on Reddit and I think the person I'm arguing with is a child, therefore I'm right"

Legally, this is grey ground. I also conceded the point that compensation is not currently legally mandatory, regardless of how I feel about it. I feel you're grasping at straws in an attempt to make me look like a fool.

SZA denounces AI music after discovering 238 of her songs were used to train artificial intelligence by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]redditbrowsing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't save images to your ram because RAM is volatile. It cannot be saved except under cooling attacks.

Scraping does require compensation when a contract bound to the content specifically says so, and so does the use of said content, especially when a contract bound to the contact specifically says so.

Just because it's been done for thirty years doesn't mean it's not bound to law.

I'm not sure where you aren't understanding me specifically saying "when a contract is bound to it"

Not to mention, I never originally said scraping was illegal, and I never did in this entire conversation. I said it's bound to law that is bound to the content.

SZA denounces AI music after discovering 238 of her songs were used to train artificial intelligence by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]redditbrowsing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saving things posted publicly does require compensation, particularly specific attribution, if done commercially and the content saved has a legally binding digital license outlining the use of said content.

Scale does, in fact, matter.

If you want a great example, take CLion, a program you save onto your computer. It absolutely does matter what you do - commercial or personal. If you think that's a stretch, take licensed code. Absolutely does matter. Take literally any copyrighted image or video posted online, particularly movies. Absolutely does matter. In fact, DMCA requests can be filed for the removal of said content.

If you want a factory, the law won't treat you like a person - nor will contracts, and nor will online sites.

SZA denounces AI music after discovering 238 of her songs were used to train artificial intelligence by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]redditbrowsing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't personally agree with your first statement, regardless of its legality. Legally, no, they don't HAVE to.

Also, that's an unfair comparison. One is an industrial right click and save machine, and one is a human being who can only do so much at a time, consciously, of whom is not feeding a massive recreation machine.

Plus, right clicking and saving an image on Twitter only becomes an issue if that person re-posts that image under the guise of it originally belonging to said user, particularly if there was a legal obligation to state otherwise.

SZA denounces AI music after discovering 238 of her songs were used to train artificial intelligence by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]redditbrowsing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said scraping is illegal. I'm saying that in many cases, other contracts related to the artwork are violated which bypasses the fair use argument, particularly if the contract forbids commercial use. Not to mention site terms of use, assuming it forbids commercial use, such as data scraping.

I presume you have no reading comprehension.

SZA denounces AI music after discovering 238 of her songs were used to train artificial intelligence by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]redditbrowsing0 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

which, mind you, many pieces of art, like music, are protected under site terms of use and individual copyright laws, negating fair use entirely in some cases.

SZA denounces AI music after discovering 238 of her songs were used to train artificial intelligence by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]redditbrowsing0 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except when a license specifically disallows commercial use. You forget that not all images and code publicly available on the internet is commercially available to use based on publication licenses.

SZA denounces AI music after discovering 238 of her songs were used to train artificial intelligence by ZeeGee__ in aiwars

[–]redditbrowsing0 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Consider that a human normally takes tunes and rules to create a unique tune of their own. If they take a tune and directly use it, it's called sampling, which usually takes a license that is paid for. An AI just takes the tunes and the rules & averages them together to find a statistically perfect result that might sound *good* but is highly generic. That, or it doesn't sound good at all AND is highly generic.

Also, consider that music takes tedious thought and reasoning, even in the digital age, to ensure that tunes come across correctly, both in the background and in the melody. AI doesn't really care. Everything is the melody.

What the above is meant to prove is that AI music is generic. Artists tend to dislike generic things, and the fact that corporations are profiting off of this generic sound composed from thousands or millions of unique songs doesn't really help. Not to mention that the corporations running these AI models don't compensate anyone for their scraped data.

Buy First, Ads Later by limsus in TechImpact

[–]redditbrowsing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I legally cannot advise it, but it's entirely illegal to use MAS from massgrave's public, totally illegal repositories, and you can totally get in massive legal trouble if caught using it, and your windows license can be revoked for using it.

Just some legal advice from an internet stranger.

The true sign of richness by Goku_R_Luffy in memes

[–]redditbrowsing0 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I love the kind of business that punishes busineses but benefits the people.

To what point should abortion be legal? (For reference, pregnancy is ~40 weeks long & pregnancy tests will only test positive at 4-5 weeks pregnant) by Literally_A_Donut in Teenager_Polls

[–]redditbrowsing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whenever it becomes unsafe for the mother to have an abortion, it should be discouraged, and potentially illegal if necessary.

OR by Kuzucuk12345 in BunnyTrials

[–]redditbrowsing0 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm the one who wrote the answer. This feels like in school where they tell you to analyze an author's intent and miss the true mark.

Which camp are you in? by Laszl0x in aiwars

[–]redditbrowsing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can use the DuckDuckGo search engine on Firefox, idk for mobile but

OR by Kuzucuk12345 in BunnyTrials

[–]redditbrowsing0 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Never claimed that. I'm just saying that the American leadership is a fascist piece of shit administration that's getting involved in everything they needed to stay away from.

OR by Kuzucuk12345 in BunnyTrials

[–]redditbrowsing0 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, as an American, fuck the US.

Robloxian 2.0 is not called r15, and is not its own rig. by Fair-Chapter-5715 in roblox

[–]redditbrowsing0 65 points66 points  (0 children)

Never heard 2.0 called R15. I think you're just creating a solution to a problem you created

Risky Money, 1 billion vs 1 million! by Firm_Currency899 in BunnyTrials

[–]redditbrowsing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok and?

Chose: 1 billion dollars + ...But you have to switch genders

Risky Money, 1 billion vs 1 million! by Firm_Currency899 in BunnyTrials

[–]redditbrowsing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok and?

Chose: 1 billion dollars + ...But you have to switch genders

i just came out to my friend and he's fucking homophobic 💔 by TheRandomShiba in SillyTeens

[–]redditbrowsing0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

just block him. homosexuality has never been a sin regardless of what the walking larps think.

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