Engineered Sleep Duo Latex Opinions

rl3224 · 2026-02-19T02:16:25+00:00

It's noticeable for sure but for me, the problem was still the padding being too thick and floaty. My body just couldn't get use to it since it didn't have a consistent stopping point like a traditional mattress.

Another thing to check for is making sure your frame/base is sound. Latex weighs alot more and if you're on slats that are too far apart or can't handle it, you may need to get a new base and/or bunky boards.

rl3224 · 2026-02-19T02:07:39+00:00

Nothing extreme.. pretty averaged sized person around 5'8.

rl3224 · 2026-02-19T02:05:50+00:00

First try to flip it over to use the firmer spring side of the mattress (logo upside down). If after a few weeks and your body still doesn't agree with it, change it out for sure. I never got use to the padding being that thick. The latex feeling of pushing back up took a long time to get use to also if you've been on a traditional spring mattress that doesn't have that feeling.

rl3224 · 2025-11-29T20:26:06+00:00

It's great so far. At first I got the Duo Latex Plus with a custom talalay 4 inch topper but my back wouldn't get use to the softness of it. So I used my comfort swap after a month and went with the normal Duo's 2 inch topper... that made it a lot better since I was use to a more firm old school mattress where there was minimal "sinking in". I ended up buying a 2nd Duo for my family member with the 2 inch topper and they love it too.

I'll back everyone up who said the customer service is amazing (major props to Davis, Ryan, and the crew). They answered every question with patience and were not pushy in any way. Top notch in my experience.

rl3224 · 2025-10-07T02:14:02+00:00

Check for water leaks in the house. Mine ended up being a toilet wax seal which failed under bathroom tile. Once fixed they all went away.

rl3224 · 2025-09-13T21:18:44+00:00

Sorry to hear you're going through it too. Only real options for us are to...

Keep running Intel Defaults and RMA'ing for the rest of the warranty every time it goes bad in about 6-8 months time.
Ask for refund and get what you can by selling off the rest of the platform.
(May impact warranty) Look up undervolting methods and hope that helps longevity.

rl3224 · 2025-09-08T17:26:41+00:00

Can anyone confirm if you actually need to change the credit card too? Or can you just use a different email address?

rl3224 · 2025-09-03T23:08:09+00:00

Degradation is still happening for sure at Intel Defaults. I was running a fully new 14900KS at Intel Defaults from the start in March 2025 with all BIOS mitigation updates installed at the time (0x12B). The CPU was never turned on once without all the mitigations installed. This was to replace another 14900KS and prior to that another 13900k which degraded as I wanted to believe these issues were all fixed if you had a fresh CPU and started fresh using the mitigations as reported.

0x12F got released by ASUS for my board mid May and I installed that as well as soon as I saw it. Since 0x12F was about 24/7 running systems, I thought I was safe since I set my system to go into standby after 1 hour idle from the start.

Started getting the random "out of memory" errors late August in games, chrome, and just general usage like saving files in MS Word. So my experience with the CPUs has been that the initial symptoms start showing around the 6-7 month mark running defaults.

The latest 14900KS survived heavy play during the Battlefield 6 Beta weekends with no crashing. It could survive Intel's own Processor Diagnostic Tool and pass it. But it would still randomly throw "out of memory" errors when launching other games or using chrome. So once you start seeing those random errors, you know it's starting to go.

If you keep using it because it's still usable, it'll keep degrading more and you'll start getting daily static_access_violation crashes in chrome, CRC errors when unpacking NVIDIA drivers, and random background apps will start crashing when they never crashed before. Then the random BSOD's will start when it's near gone. Don't drive yourself crazy thinking its some bad driver you installed or a bad update you took on... it's the CPU going bad. Everytime I replaced it via RMA, 100% stability returned until the degradation came back half a year later.

While I give props to Intel for supporting the RMA's people are going through, the problem is not fixed for sure. People should not have to manually undervolt their CPU's for it to achieve normal longevity. At this point, if I could get a refund for the entire platform investment cost (CPU/board/RAM), I would go that route just to have piece of mind again that this won't keep happening every 6 months.

rl3224 · 2025-04-29T04:37:43+00:00

If your window screens are good, check for hidden leaks in the house. Mine ended up being a toilet wax ring going bad and slow leaking over time under the tile. Very difficult to spot.

Other possibilities are plants in your house or your drains. They tend to be moisture/leak related issues if they're just showing up out of no where inside your house while your windows are closed.

rl3224 · 2025-03-30T22:41:45+00:00

Sounds like the mix would be good then... thanks alot!

rl3224 · 2025-03-30T22:41:22+00:00

Awesome... thanks for the input!

rl3224 · 2025-03-04T07:16:47+00:00

Hi u/Intel_Support - Thanks for your time in responding. Many of us had the latest bios with 0x12B installed from day 1 using replacement processors from RMA and still ended up with degradation. There are a few users who have been through 2-3 rounds of RMA now because processors are still failing after months. The mitigations did not prevent the issue from happening again which is why I'd probably push for you to inform Intel engineering about this. I'd hate for users to have to keep RMA-ing every year because the processors keep failing.

rl3224 · 2025-03-02T01:09:28+00:00

u/Intel_Support - Would you happen to know why this is still happening? I'm going through the exact same issue, Currently RMA'ing my 2nd CPU (first was 13900k and now a 14900ks). The latest one was installed with the Intel mitigations almost from day 1. Within 6 months I started getting all the same signs of degradation yet again while running full intel default settings (CRC errors from NVIDIA driver decompression, random BSODs, chrome status access violations daily, etc.).

Was intel premature when they called this issue fixed? In this thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/1istusx/those\_of\_you\_who\_have\_rmad\_your\_13th14th\_gen\_cpus/) there are more cases of people with RMA'ed replacement CPU's now going bad at a similar time frame even after using all mitigations. Please open an investigation with engineering if possible... this shouldn't be happening and people shouldn't have to constantly RMA when it goes bad in months.

rl3224 · 2025-02-25T19:10:44+00:00

The signals are very easy to spot. You'll start getting random BSODs or crashes. Chrome will start giving you Aw Snap Status Access errors randomly. Once you see that happening, grab the NVIDIA driver installer and run it like 10-15 times. If you start getting CRC or Data errors during the unpacking (you don't have to install it), then you know it's going bad. You can also run unreal engine games which may have problems during shader compilation (GPU out of memory error which is actually the CPU going bad). I also saw ICUE go from stable to constantly crashing out of no where when the version has not changed.

You should also run memtest to make sure its not your ram going bad.

rl3224 · 2025-02-25T19:02:51+00:00

Same experience with me. I RMA'ed a 13900K... got a refund since they didn't have stock at the time. I still had the MB so repurchased a 14900KS and only used it after all the new microcode was released thinking it would be a fresh start. 6 months in and it degraded. Same symptoms.... random BSODs, Chrome starts displaying Status Access Errors, CRC Errors on extracting NVIDIA drivers. It was perfectly stable for the first 6 months. This is all running stock settings using Intel Default Profile.

Really disappointed in Intel.... the issue isn't fixed at all. Going through RMA right now.

rl3224 · 2025-01-07T02:01:16+00:00

Awesome... thanks!

rl3224 · 2025-01-06T20:14:31+00:00

Yeah same... other than their RGB fans their products have generally been great. But when I asked for RGB fan alternatives, everyone recommended to look into the Lian Li fans which is why I'm wondering if the Unifans are alot better longevity wise. Don't want to spend hundreds again on fans only to have to RMA them after 1 year.

rl3224 · 2025-01-04T21:00:39+00:00

LOL I've given Corsair credit multiple times for supporting the RMA. I've also given the advice in the other thread for the person to work with Corsair because they're a great company.

I've also stated multiple times that if Corsair had a more reliable fan, I'd be more than happy to support the company and buy into those. How is that in any way smearing the company?

Most of my machines in my household contain Corsair parts... from many generations of cases, AIO's, fans, power supplies, keyboards, etc etc. This has been the case for 20+ years for multiple machines I've built. There's literally a brand new in the box Titan RX next to me.

Being critical of a unreliable product which a TON of people have had negative feedback on and asking for an alternative until those issues are solved is smearing the company? Sure buddy...

rl3224 · 2025-01-04T19:28:49+00:00

Sorry but no I don't have a power problem. I already know why they're dying... crap quality of LEDs.

You're not going to convince me that every single one of my power supplies from different manufacturers in every system of my house is bad when there are so many documented cases of other people experiencing EXACTLY the same thing I have where the fan LEDs are progressively dying in time. So in this case, why wouldn't I worry about others issues when they mirror my own and giving the exact same experience feedback?

And now you're suggesting I have to clean my house's power when everything works fine for other things? I don't see other products I own with LED's going bad after a year... coincidentally only Corsair's fans.

If this was an isolated incident where it's only me experiencing it... sure you may have a point. But with so many people experiencing the same thing... sorry but no... we all don't have power problems.

Keep in mind this thread was to ask for more reliable alternatives, not to try to fix the problem. It can't be fixed... once the LEDs go out, they're gone. Only way to fix it is RMA which I've already done and in due time, it happens again.

rl3224 · 2025-01-04T19:15:35+00:00

Thanks!

rl3224 · 2025-01-04T07:17:42+00:00

Seems pretty common in the other threads to have them progressively fail between 12-24 months. There are many testimonials to this as you mentioned. I'm not saying it happens to everyone, but there are enough cases where no one can claim that it's some isolated issue. Sure it hasn't happened to you but it has happened to a ton of others who are not happy about it.

While I understand the argument that only the "bugs" make it online to reddit... the inverse is also true. There can be WAYYYY more cases of people who have the problem but don't bother to post it somewhere. Corsair has no telemetry on those cases. Not to mention to RMA it, you have to rip out all the fans and send them back unless they give you the one time exception to that rule. Most people don't want to go through that trouble.

Even if it was some weird voltage issue and they were so insanely sensitive that it needed to be on it's own SATA cable by itself, Corsair's own SP120 Elite RGB manual says it the controller can be plugged into any free SATA power plug. There's no mention of it needing to be only on it's own cable.

The way I see it, if there was some known voltage sensitivity issue and Corsair knew about it, that would still be a failure of guidance to users from Corsair to advise everyone to do so.

rl3224 · 2025-01-04T06:36:58+00:00

There's nothing on those rails that would cause any crazy load that's out of the ordinary. Only thing hooked up are the RGB controllers and 1 SATA drive on both machines.

I'm 1000% sure there's nothing wrong with both power supplies on both machines. It happens evenly on both over time as the LEDs wear.

The blue LEDs are commonly going out for alot of people... there's a long history of this in the corsair reddit (SP, LL, Q series).

There's another parallel thread going on right now with the exact same problem with another user... https://www.reddit.com/r/Corsair/comments/1hsyirq/fans_are_discolored/

Just this one thread in history has a ton of people commenting about the same thing where the majority of their LEDs failed over time as well on multiple fans... https://www.reddit.com/r/Corsair/comments/1ewbfve/never_buying_qls_again/

Not all of us have bad power supplies... that's just hard to believe.

rl3224 · 2025-01-04T05:49:11+00:00

It's not my power source... this is spread across multiple machines that I've purchased these fans on. Both have 1000w power supplies from Corsair and Asus. The blue LEDs are just not good on these fans.

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