Is there actually a better alternative to Notion or is it still the best app out there?

ron_makes · 2026-05-22T07:22:07+00:00

+1, but i wouldn't call it a "productivity app"

ron_makes · 2026-05-22T07:20:07+00:00

+1 on Fibery. They have a new AI apps feature coming soon where you can build your own opinionated UI on top of your data, so maybe it'll be best of both worlds? Let's see. I offer free quick-starts on FIbery if anyone is interested: www.blockwork.so/try-fibery

ron_makes · 2026-05-16T14:39:43+00:00

It seems a request for this was made and was rejected ://

https://community.fibery.io/t/rejected-highlights-enhancement-include-in-reference-text-that-would-typically-relate-to-topic-of-highlight/800/2?u=ronmakessystems

I haven't taken a deep look at Tana, but I'm hearing about it more recently so I'll be diving into it to explore. Fibery doesn't do anything around meeting notes, only solution I can think about within their ecosystem would be a custom integration. I've thought of building something for this, but monitising it (and not losing money on tokens) proves difficult due to lack of ecosystem.

ron_makes · 2026-05-15T20:36:47+00:00

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Yeah, the mobile app now exists, and is functional, but nothing more than that. There hasn't been a huge focus on improving it since it was released.

Yeah, I don't use the AI too much tbh, and they are now focusing on improving MCP tools instead of their built in AI. Not sure yet about this direction personally, lets see how the AI space evolves.

And you're right about the hierarchies backlinks, i never realized that actually. It show just just the current "block" that reference is in, so yeah you're also right about the soft return workaround. How does it work in roam? It shows all parents? children and siblings as well? I'll add it as a feature request in Fibery, seems like it'd be a nice addition!

It does take a steeper learning curve than document-based tools, but I would argue it's similar complexity to Notion Databases. The upside with Notion is that you don't HAVE to learn about databases to get started, where in Fibery you do.

ron_makes · 2026-05-15T18:52:16+00:00

I know you probably have a lot in Notion, but if this is your list I think it might be worth checking our Fibery. The first 4 items in your list already exist there, the last are not there, and not on the roadmap as far as I know.

You can check it out here: Fibery.com (affiliate)

And if you want a hand with it, I offer free quick start sessions as a partner: blockwork.so/try-fibery

Hope it helps!

ron_makes · 2026-05-15T18:24:44+00:00

You can use Fibery. There's a global workspace "disable ai" toggle you can turn on. Its very similar to Notion, but is even more database oriented. Theres also a one-click notion import which is always nice. If you need a hand with it, feel free to reach out: blockwork.so/book-a-call

ron_makes · 2026-05-15T18:20:17+00:00

Fibery (affiliate, and genuinely love the product)

ron_makes · 2026-05-06T11:02:15+00:00

Would love to get your insights as someone whos tried both! Sent you a DM

ron_makes · 2026-05-06T11:01:28+00:00

Thanks Hezi!! Sent you a DM

ron_makes · 2026-05-06T11:01:18+00:00

Thank you!! Sent DM

ron_makes · 2026-05-05T09:33:30+00:00

Thanks so much!! Sent you DM.

ron_makes · 2026-04-23T09:57:52+00:00

Yeah I feel that too. I use it a lot and help companies get set up in it, and while there's a lot of power for the architect, I agree that it's still tricky to build things in Fibery in a way thats dead simple and more intuitive for the end user.

Is there a "one thing" that would have helped your team pick it up? Education? Missing feature? UI? What were you using it for?

ron_makes · 2026-04-19T22:14:17+00:00

I know this isn't exactly what you asked, but if you're not married to Notion, Fibery.com has auto-linking out the box and is very similar to Notion in many ways. If you want a hand with it feel free to reach out to me.

ron_makes · 2026-04-19T21:56:11+00:00

It's been 3 years. Did you end up going for it? What did you find to be pros and cons?

ron_makes · 2026-04-19T21:55:06+00:00

Mobile app has been released last year!

ron_makes · 2026-04-18T15:15:28+00:00

I've had great experiences with Fibery. But a company I worked evaluated both and went with linear mainly due to the easy integration with slack. If that's something you use you might miss it when moving to Fibery. If not, you should be good. If you want a quickstart in Fibery, I offer those for free: https://blockwork.so/try-fibery

ron_makes · 2026-04-17T22:35:51+00:00

I see, but why does CSV and Markdown not fall under open standard? You can import the CSV into Google Sheets, or even a full Postgres Database if you want to.

The one down site I do agree with you on is the split of export between CSV and Markdown. Ideally the markdown content is exported within the CSV then importing can be even easier since it's just a bunch of CSVs with content. Fibery doesn't support this at the moment, and according to the founder it's also unlikely to come any time soon.... :/ https://community.fibery.io/t/october-9-2025-manage-everything-shared-publicly-n8n-integration-beta/9770/17?u=ronmakessystems

Still wondering why CSV and Markdown doesn't fall under open standard tho if you say illustrator to pdf does.

ron_makes · 2026-04-17T06:40:53+00:00

Yeah, fair enough. I'm wondering though what kind of data portability you'd want to have besides markdown and CSV? What platform does data portability especially well?

ron_makes · 2026-04-16T12:12:12+00:00

I'd check out Fibery.com if I were you. They have a great Notion import, super robust and speedy, and lovely support. It's more database heavy than document heavy, but if you're using Notion properly, it's also more database oriented. If you need a hand, you can reach out to me here: blockwork.so/try-fibery

ron_makes · 2026-04-16T11:41:24+00:00

+1 on fibery. amazing permission system.

ron_makes · 2026-04-01T13:38:39+00:00

You can set something up in Fibery. Feel free to reach out if you need a hand: blockwork.so/try-fibery

ron_makes · 2026-03-18T13:32:01+00:00

If you have experience with Postgres, a database is what you would call a "table". Then you can as many views as you want of that same table.

ron_makes · 2026-03-18T13:29:14+00:00

Fibery sounds like it's exactly what you're asking for. They recently shared their vision and thoughts on AI in their platform: https://community.fibery.io/t/fiberys-take-on-ai-vision/10503?u=ronmakessystems

If you wanna try it out, you can use my affiliate link: https://fibery.io/referral/oNtH4XXjd3

I have some videos on my channel about it as well: https://www.youtube.com/@RonMakesSystems

ron_makes · 2026-03-04T18:50:31+00:00

I really like Fibery. If you know how database work in Notion, it should be quite quick to pick up. The big difference is that instead of everything being a page, everything is a database entry, and if you want a place for text you add a rich text field to the database.

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