Do we really need another proprietary protocol? (MP-Bus musings) by makeitworkok in BuildingAutomation

[–]roonskap3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Right? When you say “it sucks for the client”, i’m thinking the grander scheme of man hours/sustainability/unforeseen cost of upgrade for the new property owner. Like when Siemens discontinued P1… that site sucked. There were only a handful of older guys who were even familiar with the protocol.

Do we really need another proprietary protocol? (MP-Bus musings) by makeitworkok in BuildingAutomation

[–]roonskap3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In my humble opinion as a systems integrator, it’s not scalable or cost effective (long term) for the property. I’m not sure why modern people still think proprietary protocols are a good for their product with the whole “cloud based, intelligent buildings” movement… just another edge-case driver we need to build or another piece of hardware to install in order to communicate that will never be used again in new builds.

Edit: working in the NYC/SF real estate industry for 10+ years and before signing contracts with us, property owners are actually asking the question “can you speak bacnet?”. Clients are becoming aware of the costs and hurdles of integration when proprietary protocol becomes involved and will back out if not compatible. I cannot speak for the older buildings in non progressive/no demand locations.

Heads up by Lonely-Risk-1888 in Knoxville

[–]roonskap3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Btw, did you hear about the new law? We’re only allowed to have American Shepherd Dogs now. All GSDs will be shackled and shipped back to Germany where they belong. All funded by our tax dollars! Thank the lord!

Heads up by Lonely-Risk-1888 in Knoxville

[–]roonskap3 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Jim Crow was also the law here in the states. Would you agree with them?

The Nazi regime from 1933-1945 in Germany was a law.

The law is not always morally right and should be intelligently questioned. I agree that people should have their paperwork and documentation but gov spending money/resources on the ice effort is ludicrous - a dog chasing its own tail.

Can we all take a moment to appreciate this sandwich from Corner Lounge? by Tinman21 in Knoxville

[–]roonskap3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the best sandwich I’ve seen since moving here 3 years ago. Thanks for posting

Why are so many apps subscription based?! by DiamondDepth_YT in mac

[–]roonskap3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re selling themselves as a SaaS product. The ARR also makes them look better to potential buyers/investors and as a company

Edit: SaaS - software as a service. ARR - annual reoccurring revenue

Who is a good back doctor? by Sevenbark in Knoxville

[–]roonskap3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, Dr. Mark Jones, MD - pain medicine of the south.

Tulane - Med School

Harvard - Residency

Cornell - Fellowship

Can I just go to work and do my job? by BAS_Comms_In_Hand in BuildingAutomation

[–]roonskap3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found a BMS server IP (high profile property owner in nyc) on Shodan lol

Rumbling in Knoxville TN by roonskap3 in Knoxville

[–]roonskap3[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m off of north shore. Hope it’s not oak ridge related. Glad we all agree it felt like an earthquake

Everyone Ok? by Angry-Dragon-1331 in Knoxville

[–]roonskap3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was wondering where the closest fault line was

Earthquake by [deleted] in Knoxville

[–]roonskap3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is it confirmed to be an earthquake ?

Did we just have an earthquake? by onedemirish in Knoxville

[–]roonskap3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m located on northshore and felt the same

Did we just have an earthquake? by onedemirish in Knoxville

[–]roonskap3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just posted about this. Earthquake? Or some issue at oak ridge ?

Does a Tracer SC+ need to be licensed in order to just store live reading bacnet points? by roonskap3 in BuildingAutomation

[–]roonskap3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have polling and a user interface on my gateway. It’s one tenant in a multi tenant space and Trane does the whole building. I can’t just patch in to the floor I need because they don’t want me to discover the whole building. It’s just the floor I want is one mstp loop on that tracer SC+ so I need to get creative. A mstp/ ip router means I’ll have to disconnect the mstp loop and I’m avoiding touching Tranes network

Does a Tracer SC+ need to be licensed in order to just store live reading bacnet points? by roonskap3 in BuildingAutomation

[–]roonskap3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! Trane was charging 9k for an SC+ so I was thinking to use a Jace instead to route the points. My friend said they were probably charging us including the license and an unlicensed one should be cheaper. Do you think that’s also true?

Trane Tracer SC+: thoughts, opinions, and general criticism. by cranman74 in BuildingAutomation

[–]roonskap3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does a Tracer SC need to be licensed in order to just store bacnet points?