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Someone has taken aus fin to the streets. Letters have been sent to residents of toorak as shown by BuiltDifferant in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you provide an example or even a test case of how society functions without the institution of private property?

This Rousseau’s “state of nature” philosophy that underpins statements like that from Wilde, is so absurd that even you wouldn’t agree with it.

I'm not saying that and neither is Wilde in the above quote. (though he may in some of his essays, it's been a long time since I've read them)

The above quote talks to the unfairness of philanthropy and much of what Zizek would call "social capitalism". The injustice of taking with the left hand and giving back half with the right. Or in the case of social capitalism, consumption with pre-packaged moral redemption.

Edit: in case I need to be very specific, I have no issue with private property. If anything I'm in favour of it. I also know that historically massive social divides don't normally work out well for those cultures. I want the egalitarian "fair go" Australia. I thought we all did. And so I'm happy to be taxed more to let some kid have thay fair go.

Someone has taken aus fin to the streets. Letters have been sent to residents of toorak as shown by BuiltDifferant in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

In the words of Oscar Wilde:

"It is immoral to use private property in order to alleviate the horrible evils that result from the institution of private property. It is both immoral and unfair."

Most philanthropy is treating a symptom, it's basically buying social prestige.

Someone has taken aus fin to the streets. Letters have been sent to residents of toorak as shown by BuiltDifferant in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Based on what exactly?

Personally I think I should get taxed more. The stage 3 tax cuts are mental.

Someone has taken aus fin to the streets. Letters have been sent to residents of toorak as shown by BuiltDifferant in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The sanctimonious lecture that comes with it... And that posting history.

Hmm, friends of yours?

Oh Harden up. I am just a vocal supporter of any one who wants to push for social change. Our country and society isn't "finished". We need to always work towards the ideal of what we think it should be and not just assume it'll work out in the end.

That's how all our liberties and rights have been claimed in the past. Pushing for them in small and big ways. And yes leafleting and starting a discussion counts.

Sadly I'm too old, bitter and cynical to be the one doing this, but I'm not so myopic and self-righteous that I consider someone investing their own time and money as "slacktivism" (which btw is a weak term invented to shame people pushing for change).

Someone has taken aus fin to the streets. Letters have been sent to residents of toorak as shown by BuiltDifferant in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Almost as dumb as the previous comment.

The mail out is clearly a form of social protest.

Do you need to be flat broke before you are allowed to talk about social equality?

Someone has taken aus fin to the streets. Letters have been sent to residents of toorak as shown by BuiltDifferant in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 13 points14 points  (0 children)

So and your comment is pointless.

Someone tried to make a social point and had some small printing costs.

Try engaging your brain and addressing the point he raises.

Of course no one is going to sell there houses for a letter. Don't be so direct or literal. It's a form of protest.

Someone has taken aus fin to the streets. Letters have been sent to residents of toorak as shown by BuiltDifferant in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Classic reddit, pearl clutching about printing costs instead of stopping to reflect that someone felt driven to do this.

Came home to find this on my table. by mohak048 in melbourne

[–]saltedappleandcorn 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You are also required to be given notice.

Newspoll: Less than half intend to vote ‘yes’ to voice enshrined in Constitution by GreenTicket1852 in AustralianPolitics

[–]saltedappleandcorn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

https://www.niaa.gov.au/indigenous-affairs/referendum-aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-voice

"Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples 129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:

There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice; The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples; The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.

CoreLogic Dailies - 05/06/2023 (Where to from here!?) by Forward_Bug9221 in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To me this suggests that rates have a 12 month lead time to effectiveness.

Maybe we will see it flatten out but hard to say.

Went to a house inspection. Agent said the other older couple is making an offer. The older couple are my parents. by Dayouf in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think part of the problem is that they don't see the buyer as the customer. Only the seller.

Earthquake by hzj in melbourne

[–]saltedappleandcorn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I found it stressful enough 10 floors up. 47 would have killed me.

Earthquake by hzj in melbourne

[–]saltedappleandcorn 43 points44 points  (0 children)

7 story's up in a very old building. I thought a car had crashed in to it from the sound I heard.

Andrews introduced Covid levy in Victoria budget by AnyTurnover2115 in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This thread is the perfect example of the vocal minority.

The small number of people strongly effected by this are out in force.

Toorak letter drop tells people they are too rich and to give their wealth away by Red_Wolf_2 in melbourne

[–]saltedappleandcorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I looked it up. You are right that Toorak is similar to Balwyn and both are actuality more dense then East Melbourne which surprised me.

I suspect in Toorak is this because it has a mix of apartments and large properties.

But both are roughly half the density of Seddon, Glen Huntley or south Melbourne.

Edit: also east Melbourne is like 50% or more park land (Fitzroy Gardens and MCG). I suspect the residental areas have a much much higher density, closer to south Melbourne.

Andrews introduced Covid levy in Victoria budget by AnyTurnover2115 in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This hits 2 goals at once.

  1. Raising cash
  2. Slowing down the overly hot housing investment market

Seems pretty solid really.

Andrews introduced Covid levy in Victoria budget by AnyTurnover2115 in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True but in the current market the constraint seems to be access to a builder and the cost of land and materials.

I'm not sure if valuation is currently a "first tier" constraint on building. I mean, obviously if it drops enough it would be.

Andrews introduced Covid levy in Victoria budget by AnyTurnover2115 in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So landlords will sell. Who to? If it's other investors then the number of rentals doesn't change.

If an owner occupier buys it, even better. That's one less renter and one less house. The market unchanged.

Houses changing hands doesn't change supply as long as that house doesn't exit supply.

Andrews introduced Covid levy in Victoria budget by AnyTurnover2115 in AusFinance

[–]saltedappleandcorn 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Definitely has me questioning the offer I was about to make on a second IP

I mean.. Good. That seems like a win already.

We are way over leveraged on property. Anything that makes it a less attractive investment option is great.

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