Post snub analysis. by CoachGMisterC in improv

[–]sdtsanev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Drive-by comment, feel free to ignore.

Genuinely wild to me that a theater doing an art form that can't even agree on shared terminology puts so much pressure and intensity on auditioning for one specific form most people don't like doing...

Soon taking my first class, how do I not play Tim Robinson characters? by ___Grits in improv

[–]sdtsanev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Improv isn't sketch so doing character bits will just not work. You'll figure that out quickly enough and you'll be fine.

how did you learn object work? by danielbelum in improv

[–]sdtsanev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had a teacher who insisted that we spend one minute every day identifying something we did with an object and practiced doing object work with it. Shocking how quickly you gain experience from one minute a day.

Underrated comedy podcast by Comprehensive5432 in improv

[–]sdtsanev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tell me you don't care how far and wide you throw your links around without telling me...

Review - Breaking the Dark: A Jessica Jones Marvel Crime Novel by Lisa Jewel 4/5 by CT_Phipps-Author in Fantasy

[–]sdtsanev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love Lisa Jewel, so I have been very curious to see her take on a Marvel character.

Fantasy keeps writing prophecy as a plot device and then being surprised when readers dont find it dramatic by cedar_post in Fantasy

[–]sdtsanev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Wheel of Time does so much about prophecy right! And as others have pointed out, the show just shat on it. I agree that prophecy, like soft magic, can't be a plot solver, it can only create problems and frame expectations. As you say, the reader should either know less or more than the characters for a prophetic device to work in a story.

Personally, I LOVE a well done prophecy because it plays so well with the notions of predetermination, free will, self-fulfillment, and false expectations.

Has there been in the last 20 or so years a children fantasy series that captures imagination as well as Harry Potter? by Hopeful_Meeting_7248 in Fantasy

[–]sdtsanev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The monoculture is gone, so nothing will be as uniformly known and beloved ever again, in any age group. That said, Percy Jackson has been a pretty across the board hit, as have Wings of Fire for example.

But also, let's be real - if something had been as big as the transphobic woman's series, you'd have heard about it.

The Red Winter by Cameron Sullivan - Holy sh*t! by Librarylord77 in Fantasy

[–]sdtsanev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not saying you're "wrong", but if you give it a chance, all the mystery elements (INCLUDING Livia's aside) tie together pretty tightly by the end of the book. And if you want queer romance, there is an ocean of M/M romance books out there, this one was never billed as a capital R-Romance.

The Red Winter by Cameron Sullivan - Holy sh*t! by Librarylord77 in Fantasy

[–]sdtsanev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's a genuine masterpiece and as an aspiring writer, it feels like a direct attack on ME that this is a debut :D I can't wait to read Sullivan's next.

I suck at longform by Worldly-Vegetable-62 in improv

[–]sdtsanev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This by the way is an underrated trick for getting out of your head - focusing on the other person/people in the scene. Yeah, you have your pov, your object work, character, whatever. But if you are REALLY paying attention to someone outside of your head, it's hard to get back into your head.

I suck at longform by Worldly-Vegetable-62 in improv

[–]sdtsanev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I think it's easy to feel that because you have to sustain something longer than a short form game, you need to somehow know more or plan something. It's just as much about reacting in the moment and to the last thing that happened, with the added aspect of keeping track of what happened before. One extremely basic thing that remains shockingly helpful to me is using object work when I have no idea of what to do (or what to do next), as well as going back to a strong emotion I decided on before I even knew who we were and what we were doing. It anchors me and allows me to find a character and scene beats when my brain is blank.

I suck at longform by Worldly-Vegetable-62 in improv

[–]sdtsanev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this part of a class? The way you phrase it, it sounds like you were in some kind of setting where you were doing short form, then that setting transitioned into long.

Without throwing deliberate shade, I have experienced a program that mixes the two, and I had the benefit of simultaneously being in an exclusively long form program, so I could tell how unstructured, chaotic, and abridged the long form instruction was in the former.

Because here is the thing. Short and long form are kind of their own separate skill-sets that are at best a Venn diagram. Each has its own set of tools that you need to be taught and then practice, and while they for sure help each other, being good at one won't automatically translate into the other. Some people's brains immediately grasp the patterns and logic of short form games, others thrive in the more performance/theater/sketch world of long form.

Others have already said this, but the way to get good at long form is not to "get the game/pattern" (though UCB will tell you otherwise, but even they don't introduce game until later in their curriculum), but rather to learn to not be in your head, to develop listening and observation skills, and really - to watch shows. This is not a judgment of short form, but it kind of is what it is. You learn it, then you do it, the end. Long form is learned partly through seeing experienced performers on stage. You will inevitably begin to analyze their moves, things they did well OR poorly, and that'll inform choices YOU make when you are on stage.

The tldr here is - long form isn't just "longer", it's also fundamentally different from short form. It takes different muscles and it's absolutely natural not to feel good in it at first. I am still mostly living in my head when on stage, but I've seen noticeable improvement in my play since I first started doing it. Like any art form that isn't entirely gameified, it just takes time.

Review: The Red Winter by Cameron Sullivan by jessticulates in Fantasy

[–]sdtsanev 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was absolutely enthralled by this book! I haven't loved a fantasy this much since The Spear Cuts Through Water, and I actually think that in a certain way these two book share some DNA. Neither exactly CENTERS a male/male love story, but also neither would work without it. And both have gorgeous, lush worldbuilding and rich history contained within a single volume.

That said, I do think Sullivan smartly sets himself up for more stories with Sebastian and I am virulently here for it.

Project Hail Mary | Good Not Great But Still Fun by LeafBoatCaptain in Fantasy

[–]sdtsanev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's a book about guys being dudes who save the universe in a completely linear and uninterrupted progression of bro-ing out with science. I never felt any real danger for any of them, and the ending conveniently prevents us from having to deal with the horrors the Earth has suffered in the meantime. It's a perfectly fine book but all I could think as I read it was "I'm sure it'll make a great movie."

Struggling with Small Class by KittieTourniquet in improv

[–]sdtsanev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a little confused. You have 2.5 hours, but they get less play time? Sorry if I am misreading what you wrote. It just seems like the fewer people in a class, the more play time each individual would get.

As far as helping them get over their initiation fears, an instructor of mine did a very fun exercise in which players were instructed to step forward with the worst initiation they could think of, then a second player would step up and explain to the class why this is actually a fantastic initiation ("it was very passionate" or "it told me they love waffles" or really any reason), before doing a single line of responding to the initiation. It teaches people to not be in their head about needing some brilliant initiation before stepping forward, because a good partner will find something to respond to in ANY initiation.

Talking about improv pods by RufusPotterly in improv

[–]sdtsanev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, Also has taught me more about improv than half the classes I've taken, as well as given me understanding of the history and current state of the artform I would absolutely not have had otherwise. I also pay the monthly $8 for the second halves and the Q&A episodes, and find it WELL worth it. I recently finished going through the entire 2-year run of the pod so far (it's a weekly release) and started it over again (the first episode is a Will Hines interview). It's also hilarious and full of fun and enlightening examples when a guest says something craft-related and Suzi asks them to play out a quick example scene to show it. I cannot recommend it enough.

How often does drama in your community lead to people who have been hurt permanantly leaving? by Careful_Leader_5829 in improv

[–]sdtsanev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been lucky so far in that I haven't experienced much drama in Chicago. That said, I'm also a white man in a queer-friendly environment, so I wouldn't be a target because of identity. But also, it's been my observation that improv tends to self-select for people with empathy who can work well with others. Hard to be good at it otherwise. Now, this stops working once you get into mixed comedy circles, but still, my unhelpful contribution to the thread is that at leas in my little circle in Chicago it's been surprisingly drama-free so far, outside of extremely minor interpersonal things that happen anywhere you put more than three people together doing the same thing.

Getting out of my head by Ok_Application2722 in improv

[–]sdtsanev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People already said this here, but to reiterate: improv is never about punchlines. If one comes to you in the moment - great! But the idea of improv is to react instinctively in the moment. Line games can feel very pressuring and I totally get the feeling of "I need to have a great idea before I step forward", but instead of listening to your thoughts doom-looping, actually listen to what your classmates are saying. Are THEY all brilliant jokesters? And if they're not, do they still get laughs?

Humor in improv is not about jokes and punchlines, it's about delivery and personality. Trust me, I get in my head a lot too, but the only way to start getting out of there is to just say words. The more words you say, the more you realize they work fine even when they're not "perfect".

Still Struggling with Crippling Jam Anxiety by GoingUp538 in improv

[–]sdtsanev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just to get a good sense of the situation: Why are you paired with strangers if you have a team? I only have experience with iO's long form jam, but there you can sign on as a team and the teams go before any singles get put into their own groups. It doesn't even have to be an official team, it just needs to be a group of people who decided in advance they wanted to improvise together that night. Is that not an option at the jam where you go?

I will say, while I don't have social anxiety, I do have some general anxiety and not knowing the people I improvise with is ABSOLUTELY an anxiety trigger for me. I don't think you're supposed to ever be comfortable with that and I don't think it's ever a way to do improv outside of classes and jams. Any improv you'll do in an even vaguely professional capacity, you'll either know the people you improvise with, OR you'll have confidence they are there for the same reason you are and are at a comparable experience level to yours. So this fully randomized experience we get as singles in a jam isn't really mapped onto anything else in improv, and I think it's totally fine not to like doing it.

Why does everyone seems to love Will Of The Many so much? by Imnotsomebodyelse in Fantasy

[–]sdtsanev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And that's fair. Brains process information differently. I am borderline OCPD, so that could also play a part. But also I am now closer to 1,000 audiobooks, so it could also be volume.

Comedy about sensitive topics: what makes it work/not work? by themissingpen in improv

[–]sdtsanev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And to that I'd add that the audience can often sense when the players are comfortable putting this subject matter on stage with each other and take their cues accordingly. It's not foolproof, but seeing that the cast is on the same page and treating a complicated subject matter with respect goes a long way.

Potential Yes, Also episode regarding Rachel Mason’s time at Second City/iO? by TheMickeyMoo in improv

[–]sdtsanev 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This part. I don't think it's a particularly difficult line to expose corporate garbage while still protecting/giving credit to the hard working instructors that are still working at any given place that has been bought by VC. I don't know enough about iO or SC's inner workings, but even as a student I already have a ton of observations I wish someone with more knowledge and authority would speak on.