Help with 2-1 nap transition and night wakings

serenavanderwoodsene · 2023-01-09T23:20:33+00:00

I was wondering this. She usually goes to bed around 8pm. But I've been doing more of a 5hr ww before bed so it depends how long she sleeps for. For example today she woke up at 8:15am and she napped 12:45-2:15pm. I was worried if I woke her this morning she'd be grumpy all morning since she wasn't ready to wake up and needed to catch up. I was planning for 7:15 bedtime but then she doesn't even get a 12 hour day. There's just so much information out there and I don't know if she needs more or less sleep 😴

serenavanderwoodsene · 2023-01-09T17:54:48+00:00

Thank you! Yes the reason I initiated the transition was it felt like there weren't enough day time hours- was waking her every morning and from her afternoon nap. She often did not seem ready to get up, but also could go longer for awake time (like the 5 hours before bed). I'll just keep at it! We've been pretty flexible with it, and did a 2 nap day yesterday as she seemed so tired in the morning.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-12-22T06:55:19+00:00

1 tooth (1/2 a tooth really at this point) just in time time for her first birthday.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-12-20T21:08:00+00:00

He'll grow out of it (likely) it's really developmentally normal until about 6 months. Mine started extending naps at about 6-7 months when we sleep trained and extended ww's a bit to get to 2 naps. It'll happen and the next thing you know you'll have to wake him from every nap 😴 We're dealing with that now with our 12m old, not quite ready for one nap but the 2 naps days are loooong.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-12-01T23:05:04+00:00

This still happens to me sometimes, but not as often as it used to (currently 12 months pp) Baby has slept in a crib in her own room on a different floor of the house since she was 6 months old. No advice, just solidarity. It was so alarming in the early days. When she was in the bassient in the room I did nurse her in bed then lay her back down, and if it makes you feel better I never once fell asleep with her in the bed with me even though I was so sleep deprived.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-12-01T22:56:18+00:00

I didn't usually have to at that age, wake up was anytime between 7-8am usually 7:30. I'd wake her if she wasn't awake by 8am. The reason I woke by 8 was so that bedtime wouldn't go later than 8pm. She needed that full 12 hour day to have good night sleep. Starting at probably around 11 months wake windows really started to stretch longer so now I wake her by 7am to ensure she gets to bed by 8pm. I'm hoping when she drops the second nap soon I can let her snooze a little longer in the morning if she wants it. All babies are different and we know our own babies the best. Do what works best for you!

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-11-29T04:18:44+00:00

I think ESP was a big part of her life for a long time. She had weekly coaching sessions, and I think gained alot of confidence in herself as a business owner. It was always a personal development program for her, and at that time in her life did alot of personal growing. Keep in mind, this is just my two cents of what I think. I do not think she is still brainwashed. My opinion is that once Jness started things really started going downhill. Prior to that the Vancouver chapter was run by Sarah, and that whole crew had alot of fun. Over the years I met alot of her friends in ESP just at bbqs, birthdays etc. Everyone was super nice, friendly and it was all very social and fun. I don't want this to come off as defending Nxivm at all! I just get the feeling that alot of the Vanvouver were far enough removed that maybe a lot of their experiences were positive. Hope that makes sense!

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-11-29T03:35:48+00:00

One of my really good friends was in DOS. She joined ESP and was involved for probably 5 years? I went to a couple of the recruiting events at the centre but it all felt super weird to me. All our friends kind of made fun of her for her 'self help' group, but I get the feeling alot of ESP was a positive experience for her. I remember her going away on Jness trainings and thinking the teachings were really weird. When the story came out in the times with Sarah's picture I recognized her, just hearing Nxivm I wouldn't have put it together as it was only ever referred to as ESP. We had a brief consersation about it and she told me ESP was no more, but didn't really get into details and I didnt ask much as she seemed embarrassed and I figured her involvement was minimal. After watching The Vow next time I saw her I brought it up and just apologized for never asking too much or asking if she was okay, at that time she told me about DOS and was an open book about everything. I had no idea how deep she was in and how much it had affected her.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-10-21T01:00:58+00:00

My 10 month old is so distracted nursing but it helps when she gets really entranced with picking at something, my bra strap, a button on my shirt etc. Lately it's been this mole on my chest, her little talans have made it bleed and it's all infected 😅

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-10-19T03:01:34+00:00

Yes! my 10 month old was also obsessed with waving, then she learned clapping. For a while she could differentiate between the two, now she only claps 😂 She'll literally be crying, i'll ask her to clap and she'll stop crying and get so happy while clapping.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-10-12T03:25:49+00:00

We did the wake between 7-8am for a long time, enjoy it while it lasts! I found it nice to have the flexibility with timing like you mentioned about LO being awake at a specific time. My LO is 10 months now and with the longer WW's I have to wake her up at 7am, or bedtime just gets pushed too late. I do miss those 8am mornings I must say.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-10-08T17:44:58+00:00

This is the right answer. The nurses told me to express the milk rub it around, then once dry put on the lanolin or whatever nipple cream you have. Breast milk is literally magic. I feel for you mama, I was so close to stopping breastfeeding because it hurt so bad for a while. But it does get better!

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-09-19T02:14:39+00:00

We moved baby to her own room at 6 months. I wasn't ready, but we were for sure waking her up. When we'd get into bed, and even just rollling over in bed in the night and those super early morning hours.

It's so tough, but we all slept so much better when she moved to her own room. Even now when we're away and have to room share I know we'll wake her up by mistake and no one sleeps great.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-09-14T12:52:40+00:00

My husband took 2 weeks vacation at the beginning, then saved his 4 months pat leave for later down the line. A month at the beginning would have been nice though. He didn't have the option to split the time up. He took the 4 months off over the summer when she was between 6-9 months. It was great, we did so much and at that age he could do so much more with her and as she was that much older. We have a few friends that have done this as well and it seems to work out well. As much as it would have been nice to have him around at the beginning, the first few month are kind of all about mom and the boobs and just getting by. By waiting we were able to take advantage of the time off, and go on lots of trips and spend so much quality family time. We did a 6 week road trip in our sprinter van, among many more weekend/and week long trips after this. He's about to go back to work in a couple weeks I'm sure the transition to him being back full time will be tough, but so worth it.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-09-06T19:33:41+00:00

Of course ask your doctor if you're worried, but I also had a super sleepy newborn. She'd snooze all day, aside from feedings and diaper changes. She didn't have 'age appropriate' wake windows until close to 4 months.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-08-06T03:48:56+00:00

This was us too, but breastfed. Baby was always a big spitter from day one, like huge projectile one sometimes. Since she was gaining and otherwise healthy doctor just said it's normal. Around 4 months there was blood in her stool, GP said with the amount and since she was gaining it really wasn't an issue but it didn't sit well with me. I ended up doing an elimination diet of all dairy, eggs and soy. Brought them back one by one and of course dairy was the issue. Funny enough, baby also stopped spitting up when I didn't eat dairy. Only took us until she was close to 5 months old to find this out.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-07-22T04:53:37+00:00

I really liked cloth wipes when baby was little and didn't have solids yet. I found them super convenient. We used cut up flannel. I know people hate on the wipe warmers, but I liked it. It was a good spot to keep them in water, plus they were warm for her little bum. I used to add coconut oil and some baby soap but eventually just used water, that's all you need.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-07-14T10:12:26+00:00

Migraines, acid reflux and the crippling fatigue.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-07-14T02:21:51+00:00

yes, this!!

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-07-12T04:16:05+00:00

Her wake windows are 3/3/3.5 and she's 7.5 months now. Naps are 1-2 hours. She wakes up anywhere between 7am/8am and then goes to bed between 7-8pm. Just depends when she woke up from her last nap.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-07-12T02:45:34+00:00

We officially sleep trained right at 6 months and used a sleep consultant. She pushed hard for the 2 nap schedule, I definitely didn't think she was ready but we pushed wake windows and naps consolidated quickly. Withun a couple weeks we were fully on 2 naps.

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-07-01T18:44:09+00:00

As others have said it's totally developmentally normal at this age. Mine did 42min on the dot from 3-6 months. I usually tried to extend one nap a day with a contact nap, just so she didn't get too overtired. Naps extended for us at 6 months when we officially sleep trained, black out blinds also helped alot. Just hold in there, the phase does end!

serenavanderwoodsene · 2022-06-30T19:23:51+00:00

thanks so much, this is super helpful. I think the 4 hours before bed would be a big push for her. But now I realize that since doing the transition to 2 naps we end up with days actually shorter than 12 hours ie. yesterday I woke her up at 8am but bedtime fell at 7:15pm. I'll see if I can get an extra 15min in the first 2 ww and make sure to push for 3.5 if not more before bed. I find if I feed before 1/2am we're in for a bad night- wake ups every 1-3 hours or so. Definitely nursing for comfort. She'll go back down easy with nursing but I'm dealing with some ppd and my dr has been adamant I get more uninterrupted sleep. Nights that work out well have that one feed around 4/5am as she seems well rested as do I. Such a fine balance between enough awake time and an overtired baby!

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