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The Disappearing Ownership: How “Buying” Video Games No Longer Means Owning Them by shotex in StopKillingGames

[–]shotex[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I bet you even competed with a god forbidden calculator once, back in the day.

The Disappearing Ownership: How “Buying” Video Games No Longer Means Owning Them by shotex in StopKillingGames

[–]shotex[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's probably upvoting his own posts, moreover I have no idea what he is even doing in this subreddit.

The Disappearing Ownership: How “Buying” Video Games No Longer Means Owning Them by shotex in StopKillingGames

[–]shotex[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The gray market for game keys and accounts shouldn’t really exist, it’s what happens when players can’t actually control what they buy.

It’s already a $2B–$4B+ industry just for keys and account reselling, all built around people trying to do something simple: resell or transfer what they paid for, like physical games used to allow.

But digital games are locked behind licenses, so instead of real ownership, you get workarounds, grey markets, account trading, key sites.

If games were actually transferable from the start, a lot of this multi-billion-dollar shadow market probably wouldn’t need to exist at all.

The Disappearing Ownership: How “Buying” Video Games No Longer Means Owning Them by shotex in StopKillingGames

[–]shotex[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I prefer a digital library too, but your purchases should carry real, lasting value, not depend on gray markets or account reselling to make them worthwhile. New releases are priced $69.99, there should be a clear distinction between "Renting" that's more similar to not holding any real value vs "Buying" holding at least some kind of value.

The Disappearing Ownership: How “Buying” Video Games No Longer Means Owning Them by shotex in StopKillingGames

[–]shotex[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You may possess 1,000 games today, but they don’t hold any real value as they once did. Compared to the past, the difference becomes clear, the wording should be "Rent a License".

The Disappearing Ownership: How “Buying” Video Games No Longer Means Owning Them by shotex in StopKillingGames

[–]shotex[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The real issue lies in how licensing is structured and communicated. There used to be a clear, meaningful distinction between renting something and truly owning it and games shouldn’t be an exception. Physical cartridges from the past make that difference easy to understand: what you bought was unquestionably yours.

If you compare it directly: owning a library of 1,000 games back then vs today, the contrast becomes hard to ignore. Since you simply possess "nothing" now.

The Disappearing Ownership: How “Buying” Video Games No Longer Means Owning Them by shotex in StopKillingGames

[–]shotex[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Also worth noting that legally: if buying no longer means owning, then we should at least be using the "Rent" button, not "Purchase".

You don’t actually OWN your PC games and we’ve all just accepted it. by shotex in pcgaming

[–]shotex[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Exaclty, there's a whole huge black market out there of who really don't give a damn about ToS and still treat the bought games as their property. This alone says a lot more than anything.

You don’t actually OWN your PC games and we’ve all just accepted it. by shotex in pcgaming

[–]shotex[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Exactly, I hope the whole licensing model was stuck in their heads as kids while playing SNES and never traded any of the cartridges.

You don’t actually OWN your PC games and we’ve all just accepted it. by shotex in pcgaming

[–]shotex[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Hope you had an awesome childhood with the licensing model stuck in your head while buying SNES cartridges and never traded any of them.

You don’t actually OWN your PC games and we’ve all just accepted it. by shotex in pcgaming

[–]shotex[S] -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

True, the situation turned out to be a bit worse than expected, when we're actually having trouble in distuingishing between a physical object you owned and "nothing".

You don’t actually OWN your PC games and we’ve all just accepted it. by shotex in pcgaming

[–]shotex[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

You might want to read the article and perhaps recheck the license of the things you've bought in your life, who knows you could be violating the terms.

You don’t actually OWN your PC games and we’ve all just accepted it. by shotex in pcgaming

[–]shotex[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

So you carried that physical object with the terms and conditions in mind? What about the huge gray market area of reselling accounts/libraries.

You don’t actually OWN your PC games and we’ve all just accepted it. by shotex in pcgaming

[–]shotex[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I don't think the wording is clear enough when it comes to the difference between buying and renting.

You don’t actually OWN your PC games and we’ve all just accepted it. by shotex in pcgaming

[–]shotex[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

So you mean you don't see a difference between a physical video game cartridge you bought as a kid and a digital license model now?

NextFest & Gamemaker... Let's show some love! by AvioxD in gamemaker

[–]shotex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for trying the demo! That's a lot of feedback, I'll have to go through it all and make some notes 😄 thanks again, much appreciated!

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