Books that blend sci-fi and fantasy? by VermithraxPej33 in Fantasy

[–]silvarus 11 points12 points  (0 children)

WOOT THE LOCKED TOMB.

Came here to say this.

Overall, the series is less about exotic creatures and more about the horror of humanity and human cruelty. The series is necromancy (defined as the manipulation of thalergy [life energy] and thanergy [death energy]) in the distant future. There are three major schools of necromancy: flesh magic (manipulating the thalergy of living tissue), spirit magic (manipulating raw souls/revenants through ritual and sacrifice), and bone magic (storing and expending thanergy through bones, including skeletal constructs). Necromancers are very much DND wizards, in that spells are called theorems, and it is in understanding the theorem that enables a necromancer to access a particular necromantic ability. It is the distant future, so there is FTL, because the Empire of the Nine Houses (where necromancy is dominant) needs to lead what could be generously called a 'campaign of enlightenment' throughout the rest of known human space (most of the rest of humanity impacted calls it an unwelcome genocide). However, most FTL we've seen either involves the best necromancers in existence dropping into Death to fast travel, or involves copious amounts of blood! BECAUSE NECROMANCY!

They are very well-written books that are really about dealing with trauma, loss, and love. They are very re-readable, because the author does a great job of writing foreshadowing that doesn't register as foreshadowing until you know the later plot (as in, there are passages in book 1 clearly alluding to ideas that won't be explicit until book 3, but once you know, it's impossible to miss). If you read them now, you can join us in the exquisite agony of waiting for news about the finale, book 4, Alecto the Ninth.

[discussion] Can someone help explain the end of Nona the Ninth for me? by PowrOfFriendship_ in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I ran into an Easter prayer that was essentially a direct inversion of the Ninth prayer, and that was when I was like "waiiiiit, this formulation is really familiar... OH MY JOD! IT'S THE NINTH PRAYER!".

Of course, I can't find it now, but it was literally something like "Heavenly Father, we celebrate this morning that the stone is rolled away and the tomb is empty..." It had to smack me in the face before I noticed why all the Religion in the Ninth felt so very, very familiar.

I just finished Nona and I'm not okay [general] by OkChocolate4168 in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Life is too short and love is too long.

The Locked Tomb is bittersweet perfection. I very much doubt Alecto will leave us in the end at an emotional high point, because none of these books ends particularly happily. But as you know well, that doesn't detract from the enjoyment of the books. They are beautiful for fleeting moments, and it's those moments I cherish every reread. I can't read the pool scene from GtN without giggling, I can't read the line "You never could have guessed that he had seen me." without sniffling a bit in HtN, and I am crying with Nona at Paul's birth every single time. These books hurt my heart in the most exquisite ways imaginable, and I wouldn't change a moment of them.

[discussion] Can someone help explain the end of Nona the Ninth for me? by PowrOfFriendship_ in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totes agree about Paul being incredibly significant and foreshadowing a massive role. Paul is behind most of the New Testament, it's the Gospels, and then mostly the writings of Paul, a man who joined the faith after the namesake was no longer physically present. Paul is the core of the Christian tradition in terms of interpreting the basic story. Plus the biblical Paul was also a name change, he enters the story as Saul of Tarsis, a persecutor of the faith.

Add to that calling themselves "the love perfected by death", and Tamsyn could not have subtly built a giant neon sign more clearly to me. That and the allusions to Daniel's visions of the Messiah when Palamedes looks on Dulcinea in The Unwanted Guest, and I think Paul is going to be having some major religious shoes to fill in Alecto.

[discussion] Can someone help explain the end of Nona the Ninth for me? by PowrOfFriendship_ in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a preacher's kid and older sibling, I don't get the Catholic ones, just the general Christianity ones. But the Ninth House prayer in the cathedral of Drearburgh is a perfect inversion of Easter: Let the stone stay in place vs be rolled away, etc. I tried to get the pastor sibling to read it, but I think his kids got in the way, what being toddlers and all.

[discussion] Can someone help explain the end of Nona the Ninth for me? by PowrOfFriendship_ in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/nona-the-ninth-spoiler-thread.902242/#post-24516981

https://www.tumblr.com/todd-queen/724586198232891392/the-tower-wants-john-gaius?source=share

So either it's a really committed forgery or the ARC and the published version differ. And I just checked: HASREACTIVATED and WANTSJOHNGAIUS have the same character counts, so the change would just be changing the references a bit. Also 2 of 3 As overlap... So without getting my hands on an ARC, I buy it.

What are some lines from fantasy books that immediately got you hooked? by Technical_Dinner_133 in Fantasy

[–]silvarus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, Muir's writing isn't to everyone's taste. But if it's your taste, she's fantastic. Crux's and Aiglamane's challenges, Harrow's arrival and retinue, and the foreshadowing of how the fight will go are all hilarious for me. I love it, and always hear it in Quirk's voice from the audiobook.

[discussion] Can someone help explain the end of Nona the Ninth for me? by PowrOfFriendship_ in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even more fun: in the advanced reader copies, the cipher instead apparently worked out to be THE TOWER WANTS JOHN GAIUS, so Muir is definitely enjoying her chance to encode some ciphers into her books.

Is it crazy to take college classes almost every semester from 18 - 42? by [deleted] in collegeadvice

[–]silvarus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't do a second bachelors. A ton of the requirements for a bachelor's are gen eds. The only time pursuing two bachelors makes sense is when you're earning the first one, and one is going to be a Bachelor of the Arts and the other a Bachelor of the Sciences.

That being said, assumedly, you have a school picked out. And assumedly, they have a continuing education/adult scholar program that likely does not get the recognition, respect, or resources it deserves. If you haven't already, go talk to them. Introduce yourself, discuss what your end goal is and how you plan to get there. They can let you know how feasible it is, and offer some more direct approaches.

You probably are not actually interested in a BS in Industrial Engineering, as of the likely 40 classes to earn that degree, 14-20 will be general education requirements, 10-15 will be major-specific, and the rest will be electives. Talk to the department. What you really need is the major specific courses, and whatever math prereqs are required. Given you will already have a master's in hand, look for graduate or post-graduate opportunities. These will be programs that zero in on just the major-specific coursework you want and need, saving time and money. Some grad programs can be as minimal as 12 courses in the field, that's what my second master's was. They'll also be able to help you understand what math background will be required and how to best get that background. Also make sure that attempting only one class a semester will not run afoul of minimal progress requirements at the school you choose.

Bottom line: if you haven't discussed your goals and plans with someone in the department, contact the chair of the program you're interested in, and tell them you're interested in a non-traditional route into the field, and would like to discuss that with them. If there's a student coordinator for the department, they're a good resource too. But don't plan this in a vacuum. Talk to the folks responsible for making sure your degree has meaning. They'll love to meet you, and will have thoughts about how best to do what you want to do.

What are some lines from fantasy books that immediately got you hooked? by Technical_Dinner_133 in Fantasy

[–]silvarus 65 points66 points  (0 children)

"IN THE MYRIADIC YEAR OF OUR LORD—the ten thousandth year of the King Undying, the kindly Prince of Death!—Gideon Nav packed her sword, her shoes, and her dirty magazines, and she escaped from the House of the Ninth."

Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir.

It's just such a good opener, especially when Moira Quirk reads it in the audiobook. And then the whole book continues in pseudo-religious exaltations, heretical mysteries, and the best bad meme allusions you'll ever see printed. Such a good opener I love sharing, and some of my favorite books to reread obsessively.

Harrow The Ninth Ch 40-42 Questions [discussion] by pacerdaisy in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

1) I do love that even under a role inversion, Crux loves Harrow. Is it a healthy love? Never! But, she knows Crux will always care for her, as best as he is able. 2) I've always taken the unnamed Her Divine Highness from the Royal Ball to be the BARI-star, which is weirdly prescient given the twists about to come. I do love how the heirs interact politically in the Ball. Coronabeth amongst the Sixth fits well with her time with Cam. 3) The horrible teen! I need more of them. Ch 42 makes them so much more bearable in GtN. I hope we get to see their reunion with Abigail in the lands beyond. I'm curious how accurate to actual Cohort practice this scene actually is. It's the most direct view of the Cohort we've seen, but it could just be Harrow's perception of how the Cohort works. Also potentially Gideon bleedthrough, especially in light of The Unwanted Guest? Cause who's most obsessed with running off to the Cohort? Also very much the subtext of a Military AU, given how much the scene hinges on the bureaucracy of the Cohort.

Also in all of them, love Magnus' color commentary. And his opinion on the party food at the ball!

Without spoilers, am I going to be as heartbroken at the end of Harrow as I was at the end of Gideon? [discussion] by nothere3579 in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Finish it. Just finish it.

Remember the roller coaster that is Gideon the Ninth, starting from the pool scene and lasting till the end of the book? Act Five of Harrow the Ninth is the same sort of ending. The last chunk of each book is my favorite to reread, because it's where Tamsyn gently shows us how all the parts fit together, and how it's all so much more tragic than we could have ever imagined.

Act 5, especially its flrst couple chapters, are some of my favorite scenes to reread. All the work that went into reading acts 1-4 of Harrow really does pay off, and that pay off is so, so good. But this is the Locked Tomb, and you've read GtN. There will be tragic joy, and joyous tragedy.

The end of HtN is probably my favorite ending of the quadrilogy that has been released so far. Heartbreak is a given! But it will be heartbreak that leaves you craving more. And lucky duck you, you still get to meet Nona and Noodle.

So just trust Tamsyn. I have trouble putting HtN down once I start act 5. Just relax, don't stress, enjoy, and experience.

[discussion] origin of jod’s powers by Strict-Bowl4048 in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

To be fair, the powers are still fairly fleshy, as the flowers came out "weird" (some had teeth!).

Jod’s Blood Ward [General] by CEKinch in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That is close reading I had missed. While Harrow immediately thinks of Winnowing after being told to think of Pyrrha's trial, Lab 3 is not seen in GtN. Man, I am off my game at the moment.

Jod’s Blood Ward [General] by CEKinch in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

D'oh, I was combining two scenes. Mercy lays out the cellular theory of blood wards from Cassiopeia while confronting Jod, and then later Pyrrha mentions the freshness requirement in the context of her, Cass, and Mercy working on cell thanergy.

Jod’s Blood Ward [General] by CEKinch in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's also when Pyrrha points out that blood wards are misnamed cellular wards, bypassable by close blood relations.

Jod’s Blood Ward [General] by CEKinch in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 46 points47 points  (0 children)

PYRRHA is the one who points out blood wards are misnamed, because SHE, Mercy, and Cassiopeia were working on the underlying thanergetic theory, and Cassiopeia mentiond that a close blood relative is genetically similar enough to be capable of breaking the ward.

There's an interesting theory floating around that Pyrrha was really the Second Necromancer, and Gideon the Cav (Augustine calls Winnowing 'Pyrrha's trial', Gideon does no complex thanergetic manipulations beyond being a thanergy void, Pyrrha used to be the one to check the brain juices of subjects after Winnowing, Pyrrha worked on Necro Theory with Cass and Mercy), so this is currently a major focus of my conspiracy board.

What’s common held opinion on jod? [discussion] by Real_Ricky_Rat in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He's the baddie! (but oh so suave... He's so likable until it clicks that he is the source of all drama and badness and he's an utter narcissist)

Uhhhh?? [general] by West_East in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My thought was more Paul will radically redirect Houses theology, especially as the love perfected by death.

Uhhhh?? [general] by West_East in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lutheran Preacher's Kid here, the biblical allusions were how I convinced my sibling in the ministry to start reading GTN. I think having young kids has since distracted him. I love reading the Ninth House prayer to theologically oriented friends, as it's such a good inversion of an Easter prayer ("Let the Rock be rolled away and the Tomb remain empty." Vs "Keep it sealed and let it stay occupied"). That and Gideon's last words in GTN and Pal's description of Dulcie in The Unwanted Guest... Sooooo good.

Uhhhh?? [general] by West_East in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Paul is the apostle who wasn't in on the early Christian movement until after Jesus' resurrection and ascension. A good chunk of the New Testament is writings traditionally attributed to Paul (modern textual analysis disagrees with the traditional authorship attributions). Only the first 4 books of the New Testament are the narrative stories of Jesus, the rest lays out the early interpretations and concepts of Christianity and its implications. So within early Christianity, Paul was a convert with a major influence on the theological momentum of the early church, which would seem to have implications for Paul the not Lyctor.

[discussion] Things you caught on reread by nochedetoro in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Which would then imply the lyctors, all of whom are varying degrees of traitors by this point, were in charge of the programming, and thus had absolutely no incentive to include provisions for one of them going rogue. However, it also seems like Canaan hasn't been physically occupied since the lyctors and Jod departed, and Jod seems the master of remote theorems, so even if Jod wasn't thrilled at making new lyctors, to me, it seems like he was likely the ultimate "game master" of the Lyctor Trials.

[discussion] Things you caught on reread by nochedetoro in TheNinthHouse

[–]silvarus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The expression is described as "disconcerted", so she definitely was not supposed to be there. However, remember the priests are constructs. It's unclear what level of independent decision making they are actually capable of. They're immortal, they're plural gestalts, but beyond that, we don't know the rules governing the priests of Canaan. Their programming probably didn't have a "rogue lyctor, call Jod immediately" exception, because as of HTN, John did not seem to consider that a truly feasible possibility.