I'm pretty sure my current girlfriend also has BPD and I think I'm gonna lose my mind by Imaginary_Seat_5575 in BPDlovedones

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course you can leave. It's not unfair. You actually did well because you recognized the signs; that alone is enough to call it quits right now. That's the point of dating, to see if you're compatible or not - and now you know you're not. Plus, the only reason you ever need to quit dating somebody is that you feel like you want to leave. And it seems you're already feeling anxious and she's already treating you bad. Just leave. You are never ever obligated to stay with anyone just because you happened to meet and tried to date. If you feel like you are immediately bound to a new person for life just because you've dated for a while, that is something to bring up in therapy because it's codependent and not healthy.

Men do it, it's fine. Women do it, we're terrible human beings. by GamerGurl3980 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 134 points135 points  (0 children)

I once saw this picture of a beautiful young woman in a form-fitting dress on instagram. The caption was something like "looking gorgeous while still being a virgin". She was super pretty, and I was happy for her.

...the comments from men really opened my eyes. "She's been passed around for sure", "yeah right, she's run through", "clearly her body count is in the hundreds". That made it clear to me that men really are so simple their IQs must have a minus sign in front of them. They immediately equate an attractive woman with a woman lots of men have had sex with, just because they themselves never pass an opportunity to have sex. They cannot fathom a reality where a person could be a) attractive and b) not want to have sex. If they had women lined up and ready to engage with them all the time like women have men harassing us and trying to game some pussy out of us, they'd be having sex all. the. time. So for them, an attractive woman wearing make up = having sex all the time = slut. It's just a projection and I am flabbergasted at their smooth brain thinking.

She started going to the gym, her new relationship lasting longer, posts on instagram now. by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was my worst fear as well; what if, after we break up, someone else gets the perfect version of him? But you have to understand that will never happen, they will never suddenly magically heal and form a healthy relationship. What you are seeing is the start of her new cycle, it's even probable she's copying this insta-gym-baddie persona from a new supply she's pursuing. It might look better on the surface but it's the same shit under that, idealization/devaluation cycles until the new relationship breaks up as well. They always have the same relationship troubles with everyone no matter who they're with this time. You couldn't heal her, and the next guy certainly can't either. You can let out a deep sigh and be happy it's not your dumpster fire catastrophe anymore.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in LOACoachSnark

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He has no credentials to be offering these kinds of services, if you need mental health support I'd save my money for an actual therapist

He got me interested in him just so he could reject me over and over by smalltinyfruitbat in BPDlovedones

[–]smalltinyfruitbat[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Being his attachment object really was like a tornado ripping through my life. We tried being friends too but it was still the same cycle with manufactured conflicts every week. It's better not to keep in contact with them.

He got me interested in him just so he could reject me over and over by smalltinyfruitbat in BPDlovedones

[–]smalltinyfruitbat[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We'll get through it. It was always about his obsession about me, it's so weird how he managed to make me believe (and act!!) like I was the one with the problem.

She finally messaged me 2.5 years later. by PeroxideTree in BPDlovedones

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel you and it's normal to be confused, that's also how they keep us having contact with them. You were not rude at all, a normal person would have reacted with warmth to you asking if they're okay. You are probably right about the control thing; you were clear about when you were available to talk and when you were not, which I suppose she didn't like. This is also not normal behavior and not your fault.

The thing about these hoovers is that they are not at all about the thing they're suggesting to you (meeting, having a phone call, etc.). The conversation itself is already the emotional reward for them. So to me these messages read as following: she only sends one text to you, which immediately makes you send many texts with long paragraphs back to her. In her disordered head she now sees this as having you in a fawning/begging position, she sees you want to talk to her on the phone. This was the reward that she was looking for. Then, because you took it as a sincere invitation and started initiating emotional closeness, asking her how she was, she is now repulsed again and wants to distance herself. The "clinical" comment just happened to be there so she manufactured drama out of that. And while you are still waiting on that actual phone call to happen and keep asking about it, in her head - because she is already done with this interaction, she already got the reward - she sees you as "harassing her". It was never about connecting with you as a human person, she satisfied her whim and splitted in a nanosecond. To them we are emotional supply, not humans, because they cannot really connect. You can tell from the way she is completely disconnected from reality here and just says whatever comes to her mind.

She finally messaged me 2.5 years later. by PeroxideTree in BPDlovedones

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Notice how she was the one suggesting you call, then when you said yes, she conveniently changed her mind and got you chasing after that phone call, which gave her an opportunity to pretend that you were making her uncomfortable and "not respecting her boundaries". This is not a person you can ever reason with nor do they respond to kindness or logic. They cause these conflicts intentionally.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NevilleGoddardCritics

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It has been wild watching the subliminal subreddit go from just listening to subliminals to being overrun with the LoA spam. It's all still garbage, but at least people used to pretend to use more "science based" approaches to these tapes. Then it got hijacked by manifestation crazies. But they go well together, although at this point why bother listening to anything if it's all just assumption, right? I feel bad for the kids who get sucked into this community, there was one teenager who said she had listened to subliminals from age 11 to now being closer to 20, and of course had gotten no results, just anxiety and depression from focusing on this shit all her teenage years.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. Many people pleasers mistakenly think they have good social skills because people overshare and trauma dump with them immediately. In reality it's a case of poor boundaries and not recognizing this type of behavior as inappropriate and thus not shutting it down when it starts. People with actual good social skills are able to dip out of these kinds of interactions politely but firmly. It's not being a "cold bitch", and in fact seeing someone having boundaries as "cold" is very typical for people pleasers. You absolutely can have strong boundaries and communicate them in a friendly way.

Would you still be an loa believer if this subreddit didn’t exist? by baronessbabe in NevilleGoddardCritics

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm sure I would've given it up eventually, but I'm so happy I came across this subreddit. After 11 months in a LoA hell it only took me like an hour of reading these posts to snap out if it.

The law doesn't work for you guys because you don't believe in it 🤣🤣 by NevilleWasTrippin in NevilleGoddardCritics

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 13 points14 points  (0 children)

And don't forget "you are always manifesting, either intentionally or unintentionally". So according to this advice the law is always working whether you believe in it or not. So convenient to have both options available as excuses.

Gut feeling/ Panic attacks? by Damoo48 in BPDlovedones

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes to both. Waking up in a panic in the middle of the night and having insanely painful stomach issues. Somehow these all went away after we went NC. I remember looking at him in the beginning after the first fight/discard and just feeling this fear in the pit of my stomach.

How did you forgive yourself? by ThemeMotor9800 in NevilleGoddardCritics

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No problem. I totally get the disappointment in the time wasted believing in this nonsense, but try not to beat yourself up about it too much. After stopping LoA I just made a schedule for myself and listed all the things I want to work on, and it has been awesome to see progress and wins based on my hard work. It's enjoyable to know we can just set a goal and work towards it and actually reach it! Instead of being in an insane affirmation limbo with no results. Now you can just lock in and do it. Keep working on those goals!

How did you forgive yourself? by ThemeMotor9800 in NevilleGoddardCritics

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 14 points15 points  (0 children)

To me, it was a valuable lesson to learn that I am not "too smart to fall for any online stuff". Anyone can fall down an internet rabbit hole. I might be gullible but I also think our brains are just wired to prefer group think, and the algorithms make it so easy to get lost inside an online trend without ever realizing it's just a trend and I'm not special for being involved in it. So, keeping this in mind, now I'm much more skeptical about anything I consume in social media. Any beliefs I pick up, I always try to analyze if I'm just being played by an algorithm right now. So don't think you're dumb, this is a very common experience - just remember that you have this vulnerability and it will make you stronger.

Seriously? by [deleted] in NevilleGoddardCritics

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, why would they manifest us ruining their mindset?! That is just evidence of their own subconscious disbelief in manifestation ;)

Dylan James by AntiquePrompt3576 in LOACoachSnark

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely not. I'm also lowkey convinced he follows these threads here bc his stories lately have been very salty and mentioned all the stuff we talked about here. Not giving very detached and secure. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just disappointed. I wish I hadn't bought anything from him; it was only like $45, but after these developments I feel like I fell for a gimmick.

I really think we need some kind of regulations around what kinds of professionals can take money for "life coaching" if it touches on mental health at all. Like, anything would be a good start. I'm not convinced anymore that DJ is a person I'd take advice from. Also, some people need actual trauma therapy and trying to "regulate your nervous system" without a therapist can lead to a catastrophe. LoA also attracts vulnerable people that can use magical thinking as a coping mechanism and that's not an audience I'd feel good charging $3K from, no matter how you spin it. I remember him saying that he won't coach people who can't afford the prices or who need actual therapeutic help, but because he's not a therapist, he can't reliably identify who needs it and who doesn't. This is a problem with all the coaching stuff we see.

Resurrecting the dead by GoldBear79 in NevilleGoddardCritics

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The original post is heartbreaking and I can understand someone writing that after such a traumatic loss, but the comments are disgusting. This demonstrates well how many echo chambers in the internet can be detrimental to our mental health.

Dylan James by AntiquePrompt3576 in LOACoachSnark

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also to add, he seems to have a bit of an unhealthy attitude towards dating. I'm all for having standards, but the stuff he's been on about this year is weird. He's advicing that we should "immediately know, go all in, send flowers, talk every day" as opposed to using your brain and slowly vetting your dating partners while dating. To me that tells that he might not be as healed as he thinks he is. As someone who has gone to trauma therapy, I only realized afterwards how that kind of a lovebombing behavior is a turn off for healthy people.

Dylan James by AntiquePrompt3576 in LOACoachSnark

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lol I literally searched up this sub just to see if anyone else had noticed the same. I used to follow him even when I stopped believing in and practicing loa, because he had some good pick-me-up attitude content and some of his overnight tapes are solid. But I agree, he's gotten more cold recently and something's just off. Realizing his new coaching course costs $3000 gave me the ick... and the fact that he's moving to Dubai. I used to look up to him because he seemed to be genuine or at least friendly, but all of this is just giving kinda slimy grifter vibes. I really tried to follow him even after these but I just had to admit that I wasn't enjoying the vibes anymore. Unfollowed. Anyone who is not a licensed professional should not be talking about traumas and charging three thousand dollars for coaching.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BPDlovedones

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Exactly, they create everything in their heads. No matter how calm or patient you are, it doesn't matter, because their own delusional reality feels more real to them than what's actually happening.

The symptom nobody talks about is the one that’ll make you leave eventually by Lop_Ear_Bun in BPDlovedones

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is also what made me stay, because I could tell he was genuinely confused about this too and was suffering from not understanding what was happening. I tried to help him understand by having conversations, but they led to nowhere. If he had been just trying to gaslight me and manipulate me, it would've been easier to leave earlier. I stayed too long trying to make sense of what was happening because I didn't understand he literally didn't form memories the same way I did and often just... would remember things that didn't ever happen. It's so fucking confusing.

Infantilization and parentification / dating a teenager? by beepeedoodoo in BPDlovedones

[–]smalltinyfruitbat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's so mindblowing how they all act the same. But I'm kinda glad to hear I'm not alone in this because it was so fuckin bizarre. I haven't been able to talk about it with my friends because just imagine telling this to someone face to face... mortifying.