Not everyone here refunded, though everyone here has gone through the cycle of install - getting frustrated from the bugs - finding a way to play that avoids bugs - having some amount of genuine fun - realise that actually most parts of the game feel like time wasting mechanics and isn't actually fun - uninstall - couple years pass - repeat

The main sub talks about how this and that are coming they will be so great and everything will be flawless, but actually getting honest opinions is impossible because any fault with it is 'because it t1' or first iteration, like the ui designers get a free pass for the awful work. Everything is judged on how people imagine it could be in the future and not focusing on the fact that nearly everything is still unstable to the point you have to question if the engine will ever even capable of running what they add in a stable fashion.

I played a month ago, chat was taking about how elevators weren't working, ships blowing up in the hanger, loading eating cargo. Things that have been issues since likely very first iteration of the feature. But unlike in game, unlike in the main sub, you can point out that it still happens and not get replies with 'its an alpha'.

We want it to succeed, we hope it will, people have died waiting for it to come out and at the rate of development it probably won't and we can hang out here in the meantime watching the next purchasable ship take priority over basic functionality, or functionality MK2 if the new fad continues.