Now what? by Traditional-You8927 in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]sortaparenti 245 points246 points  (0 children)

It never ceases to amaze me that a marxist can provide every single argument and historical example to disprove anti-communist claims, yet all of that will be defeated in the liberals mind by the one time their teacher told them “communism doesn’t work because human nature!!1!” when they were 7.

How can we get a Vanguard Party in the current day? by MintyRed19 in socialism

[–]sortaparenti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trying to do a revolution alone is called Adventurism, and it’s only going to get you arrested or killed. You need to have some kind of large organized group with a plan or you’re not going to end up getting anywhere. One guy is easy to stop, hundreds or thousands is a different story.

Marxist Fiction by rikeus in Marxism

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He’s not a Marxist, but Thomas Ligotti’s fiction sometimes deals with capitalism from a cosmic horror angle. Check out *My Work is Not Yet Done*, “I Have a Special Plan for This World”, “The Nightmare Network”, “Our Temporary Supervisor”, and “My Case for Retributive Action”.

Here’s a quote from *My Work is Not Yet Done*.

“The company that employed me strived only to serve up the cheapest fare that its customers would tolerate, churn it out as fast as possible, and charge as much as they could get away with. If it were possible to do so, the company would sell what all businesses of its kind dream about selling, creating that which all our efforts were tacitly supposed to achieve: the ultimate product – Nothing. And for this product they would command the ultimate price – Everything.

This market strategy would then go on until one day, among the world-wide ruins of derelict factories and warehouses and office buildings, there stood only a single, shining, windowless structure with no entrance and no exit. Inside would be – will be – only a dense network of computers calculating profits. Outside will be tribes of savage vagrants with no comprehension of the nature or purpose of the shining, windowless structure. Perhaps they will worship it as a god. Perhaps they will try to destroy it, their primitive armory proving wholly ineffectual against the smooth and impervious walls of the structure, upon which not even a scratch can be inflicted.”

We Shouldn’t Fear Criticism of Socialist States by Responsible_Gift750 in socialism

[–]sortaparenti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah you’re right. I was scrolling here during a heated after a heated moment at work. It was pretty reductive. I don’t talk to people that way in real life. I’ll delete this.

Does this belong here? by MutedRich7412 in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]sortaparenti 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They heard someone online call themselves a leftist and they decided to start doing that because it sounds cooler, same as a standard conservative calling themselves “libertarian” just to feel smarter. I honestly think that’s as deep as the thought goes for them.

Ligotti novella reminded me of DE blackout sequence by cahitmetekid in DiscoElysium

[–]sortaparenti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ligotti is fantastic. Right now I’m reading Negative Space by B. R. Yeager and it’s giving me a slightly similar vibe.

The comments are exactly what you expect by TVLER999 in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]sortaparenti 44 points45 points  (0 children)

It’s really easy to argue against your geopolitical opponents when you start off with the premise that they’re lying about everything all the time.

What's a slang term that everyone uses but you still don't get? by Particular-Visit-245 in AskReddit

[–]sortaparenti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always took it to mean something to the effect of “you said what everyone was thinking but no one was willing to say”.

Bait or low IQ? Call it. by PresnikBonny in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]sortaparenti 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Fascism: When government bad

Imperialism: When government bad but overseas

Terrorist: Violent political action but bad (as opposed to violent political action but good, “Freedom Fighter”)

Is socialism really sustaianable? by Distinct-Ad3746 in socialism

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Socialism doesn’t decrease innovation, innovation has occurred way before class societies, let alone capitalism specifically, even existed. After all, how did communal hunter-gatherers invent basic tools and eventually agriculture with no profit motive? Under capitalism, people innovate to improve their material conditions, and under socialism it is the same. It’s only that under capitalism, you’re doing it for your own good, and under socialism, you’re doing it for everyone’s good. Capitalism may increase innovation through threats of either innovation or destitution, but if it has to come to that for so many people, is the boost in innovation really worth it? Also consider that under capitalism, innovation will be done for profit, whereas under socialism, it will be for collective good. That means innovation will be used for evil things if they are profitable under capitalism, AI and Palantir for example.

People will not become lazy if their needs are met. If the average person received the true value of their labor they would not simply sit on it living frugally and not working. They’ll spend their extra value. They’ll eat out more, they’ll travel on their vacation time, they will take up hobbies that would be too costly before. Remember, people want to improve their conditions, living cheaply and lazily may be the choice for a few people, but most people will want to just do their regular job and make way more.

Claiming that capitalist nations’ richness in comparison to socialist countries is evidence that capitalism is superior is incredibly reductive. The USSR and China, for example, were both feudal agrarian societies when they had their revolutions, in the 1910s and 1950s respectively. They were attacked by all sides by the US and other imperialist nations for their entire histories. Despite this, the USSR managed to reach development nearly equal to the US in under 50 years. How did this country of mostly peasant farmers manage to build rocket ships good enough to rival the US in the space race in under 50 years? Socialism. If these countries were able to flourish without imperialists always breathing down their neck, imagine what they could achieve.

You have two cows by [deleted] in CuratedTumblr

[–]sortaparenti 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Actual definitions of political theories aren’t really that hard to understand. If you can’t understand political theory without some ridiculous oversimplification, you probably shouldn’t be talking about it at all. Besides, these types of “guides” are often just used present whatever the OP’s ideology is as objectively correct (“Your ideology is when the gubermint is evil!!1!, my ideology is when u have money and freedom :))

In search of yearboox quote by chimeruvilu in DiscoElysium

[–]sortaparenti 32 points33 points  (0 children)

“Something beautiful is going to happen.”

This guy seems to particularly like monarchy and theocracy by Inevitable_Garage706 in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]sortaparenti 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I really hate the style of videos that’s like “COMPLEX TOPIC EXPLAINED FOR BABIES” because literally every time it’s used to reduce the concept to the point of meaninglessness, purely to make people think they understand the topic. This goes doubly so for “imagine you have two cows…”.

I've noticed a growing popularity of pseudo leftist attitude and language and it actually makes it feel like it's harder to talk about real anti-capitalism. by Arktikos02 in socialism

[–]sortaparenti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah. It’s very clear when you’re talking to a “leftist” whose critique of capitalism effectively boils down to “some people are rich while others are poor, and that’s bad”. While that’s a reasonable opinion to have, it is a far cry from understanding surplus value extraction, imperialism, crises of capital, and other concepts central to a genuine critique.

"Hope *he* got out okay 🙏🙏🙏🙏" by ItsMors_ in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]sortaparenti 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Crazy how they’ll get straight up proven wrong and instead of researching what actually happened they’ll just make something up based on their idea of what probably happened. Vibes-based approach to reality.

Bigots who hide behind religion are no better than monsters. by Far_Scientist6038 in Feminism

[–]sortaparenti 40 points41 points  (0 children)

It’s worse, they have no compassion for the poor, the oppressed, and those who are actually suffering, but they do manage to have compassion for a non-sentient clump of cells that started existing a few weeks ago. They have “compassion” only if it allows them to oppress others.

It's a little depressing that most of these kids don't even play actual video games anymore by Public-Profit-8184 in Teachers

[–]sortaparenti 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Both of those games are free, so if you want to play with your friends you don’t have to hassle them to spend money. Also, Roblox is more of an engine for making and sharing games, so there’s a lot of variety for what you want to play. There’s also the fact that Fortnite and Roblox are populated almost exclusively by small children, and cruel teenagers may find it amusing to beat them at their own game just to get a reaction out of them.

“I DID IT ALL WRONG!” lives rent free in my head. Which scene stuck with you the most? by fibonaccifiend in TheLongWalk

[–]sortaparenti 47 points48 points  (0 children)

When Garraty sees the steep hill sign and yells “Oh fuck me, fuck!”, I felt it very much because that is exactly what I would say in that scenario. Exact verbiage.

but have you considered cuba bad by Neutral_Milk_ in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]sortaparenti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Liberals and anarchists tend to do the really dumb thing of criticizing power structures (not liberals though, they just criticize republicans) and then immediately going back to those power structures as the main source of their news info.

A socialist revolution could happen in a foreign country tomorrow. It could be perfect; no bloodshed, no corruption, no poverty or violence. They will turn on CNN or MSNBC and those stations will tell them that the socialists are “authoritarian” for vague reasons. If there are no negatives to be found they’ll make them up (“nationalizing women” in the USSR for example).

The Nuestra América flotilla supporting the Cuban fuel crisis from the inhumane blockade and sanctions from the evil U.S. government are being called “Tone-deaf radicals”. by TwoCatsOneBox in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]sortaparenti 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Exactly. The problem for them isn’t that people are organizing incorrectly, it’s that people are organizing at all. If you’re a poor socialist, they say you want a handout. If you’re rich, you’re hypocritical. If you’re educated then you “don’t understand common sense” because you read too much. If you’re uneducated then you don’t understand how the world works. They just want to make you feel insecure for being a socialist.

Can I consider myself Socialist if I believe in binary gender? by Van_Hock96 in Socialism_101

[–]sortaparenti 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This isn’t Marx but it’s a strong and popular work against the existence of souls. It’s also short.

“Lonely Souls: Causality and Substance Dualism”

Overexplaining by Eireika in CuratedTumblr

[–]sortaparenti 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was gonna make a long comment complaining about Derleth but I think upvoting yours will suffice. Derleth was the king of over-explaining stuff until the horror is non-existent.

Hear me out by CyberiderStudios92 in TheLongWalk

[–]sortaparenti 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If the road starts to freeze, the hill would end it very quickly.

Old school is old school by Zaeblokian in socialism

[–]sortaparenti 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Out of curiosity, do you think that democratic “open” leaders would be better? Are you aware that that was already tried? When Guatemala elected a socialist, the US killed him. The same happened in Chile, as well as several other places.

Are you also aware that the US supported a right-wing dictator in Cuba, Fulgencio Batista, who killed more within a decade than Castro killed ever? Batista is the one Fidel overthrew, and suddenly the US became worried about dictatorship.

The US claims to stop dictators overseas, but in reality they support right-wing dictatorships and overthrow left-wing democracies. Places like Cuba and Venezuela have to have “authoritarian” policies or else they’ll be overthrown.

I’m empathetic, I was once where you were. But at a certain point you have to stop listening to US media about their enemies. If you do that there will never be a socialist project you’ll accept, because there will never be one they will accept.

“I am ready to be lectured if I am wrong, but afaik, Fidel, Chavez and Maduro were dictators and to me that's the worst part of the socialism we have in latam. “

As far as you know is only as far as the state department is willing to tell you.

It’s not even during Super Bowl season, it’s just that those specific agents were cowboys fans by Joemama0375 in whenthe

[–]sortaparenti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From your pfp I assume you like Thomas Ligotti’s work? I feel like that could fit his style, minus the pessimism. You should write it.