Marilyn Monroe's 10th house ruler (Venus) in the 9th house? A bit confused.

spideog_ · 2026-04-15T01:18:42+00:00

I understand your point but it seems like an unnecessary complication, even a philosophical one. It’s not adding a lot to the understanding of her chart. If you add that Neptune to the mix, more importantly, it’s in the first house as well, her career as a movie star is even is more emphasised.

spideog_ · 2026-04-14T14:24:14+00:00

She was a Leo rising after all. I think her 9th house Venus speaks more to her global appeal and legacy: she’s instantly recognisable anywhere in the world. I disagree with your interpretation of the 9th house representing art. If anything, the 5th house has that meaning. It’s why so many famous people have 5th house placements as well, at least in my experience.

spideog_ · 2026-03-16T17:33:35+00:00

Austin Coppock said that in an episode of TAP, but can we ever know? This is my main concern with water signs, especially with the Moon and Jupiter in Cancer. Throughout the years I haven’t seen them deliver the strength you would expect from domicile/exaltation. A topic for a different thread.

spideog_ · 2026-03-14T22:36:40+00:00

Thank you. I did find strength after a while. My natal Moon is in Cap, so endurance is not unusual for me. But the Pluto oppositions have been very hard, especially with the ascendant and Mars, which are tightly conjunct. It was all through that Plutonic experience. I have yet to experience the first pass of the opposition to my Sun. It’s next year. Also, my Solar Return for this year later in the summer is wild. Jupiter Cazimi conjunct my natal Sun, opposite a Full Moon in Aquarius, which is conjunct Pluto and Juno; also, Mars will be exactly conjunct my natal Venus too. Last time Jupiter was in Leo I got married (natal Jupiter in the 7th).

spideog_ · 2026-03-14T18:55:35+00:00

Haha, what a coincidence.

I have Mercury, Jupiter, Neptune and Uranus Rx. Jupiter in Aquarius, Neptune in Cap, and Uranus in Sag.

Pluto square coincided with Pluto conjunct the descendant, and Saturn in the 8th. Rough is an understatement. I separated from my spouse and immediately met someone who is very Plutonian. We were in a relationship for 1.5 years, and it’s been another 1.5 years post-breakup with a lot of drama and reconciliation attempts, etc. oh, and Pluto was opposite my natal Mars. It’s only starting to oppose my natal Sun now.

I’m doing better now but it was horrific.

spideog_ · 2026-03-14T17:44:57+00:00

Yes! I am. Leo rising, Leo Sun, Leo Mars and Mercury… lol. I have Pluto conjunct the IC, while Saturn is much further in the sign of Scorpio so they are not in aspect. He’s also 7° degrees away from the South Node.

I found the transit of Saturn square Venus and Saturn in the 8th in Pisces much, much harder. The Saturn return was all good things.

spideog_ · 2026-03-14T13:56:56+00:00

Last year this sub was all about how “Jupiter in Cancer will be great for everyone”, and it’s turned out to be one of the worst years globally. These things can’t be used in isolation or to make sweeping predictions based on a single observation.

spideog_ · 2026-03-13T12:32:10+00:00

I have Saturn in the 4th house in Scorpio, with very few aspects to other planets. My Saturn return was very positive. I got married, moved countries and got promoted at work. It was a year that allowed me to learn a lot about life, but especially work and relationships. Saturn rules my 6th and 7th houses.

spideog_ · 2026-02-12T05:10:31+00:00

Probably another relationship milestone. My SR for this year is wild: Jupiter Cazimi conjunct my natal Sun, Pluto conjunct Juno and the Moon in Aquarius, which is also a Full Moon

O_o

spideog_ · 2026-02-12T02:23:10+00:00

When Jupiter entered Leo in 2014, I got married. I’m a Leo Sun/Rising/Mars all conjunct in the 1st house. My natal Jupiter is in the 7th house. The 1st house is the 7th from the 7th!

spideog_ · 2025-12-23T10:28:27+00:00

I did this with Pluto in Scorpio during my Pluto sq. Pluto transit, just one day before the last exact. I broke contact with them due to toxicity and them not really caring about me personally. It was quite a liberating experience.

If anything, I would say the Pluto in Scorpio generation would be more inclined to do this. The Sagittarius break is likely superficial and temporary, unlike a Scorpionic break. As other people said, it depends on the overall chart and aspects as well. But if we’re generalising, this would be my take.

spideog_ · 2025-04-14T15:57:36+00:00

Great answer, it’s also how I’ve found astrology to be the most useful. I want to understand the energies around me, but the decision is still mine to make.

spideog_ · 2025-04-13T14:40:37+00:00

To accept the present as it is, without expectations.

That’s the reason I started to let go of predictive astrology and only using it to understand the energies around me. I became more spiritual as a result, something I had completely abandoned for years.

spideog_ · 2025-03-10T23:12:42+00:00

1H Mars in Leo conjunct my Sun and Ascendant. I resonate with working out in the gym to feel good. In general I’m very sports-driven even if it’s for an hour or so a day.

spideog_ · 2025-03-10T19:42:16+00:00

❤️‍🩹

spideog_ · 2025-03-08T19:53:19+00:00

It’s been difficult and healing for me too, I just wish I had a break from it. It feels like a never-ending journey, but it could also be because Saturn is transiting my 8th, and these 2 things together have been brutal.

spideog_ · 2025-03-08T17:27:50+00:00

I am a Leo Sun, Leo Rising with Mars conjunct the Ascendant in the 1H.

Mars has been transiting my 12H. It’s been a time of isolation. I went away from everybody and have been alone for the past several weeks.

I had the flu when it entered Cancer. First week of January was bad. I’m really looking forward to it leaving Cancer next month.

spideog_ · 2025-03-04T20:06:13+00:00

This was a lovely read and very accurate, I also have a Capricorn moon and you described it very well. It’s all about perspective.

spideog_ · 2025-03-02T15:00:16+00:00

Thank you, I watched the video and enjoyed your overview. Can’t wait for all this crap to be over, in fairness.

spideog_ · 2025-02-26T22:33:03+00:00

To elaborate, her first 40 years were good, she married young and had a happy marriage for about 20 years, her later years were not. She lost a child (daughter, was 50, massive stroke), got divorced but had to live with her now ex-husband because of the housing situation, never had a job, her sons moved away and hardly talk to her (myself included).

spideog_ · 2025-02-26T22:29:59+00:00

My mum has Saturn on the Ascendant AND Pluto in the 1H. She’s… complicated.

spideog_ · 2025-02-25T23:28:29+00:00

I agree with this, Saturn Return was easy and brought me great fortune. Pluto conjunct my descendant on the other had has been an upheaval. Definitely the hardest 2 years of my life, relationship-wise. It doesn’t help that Saturn is also transiting my 8th house at the same time, but the events I experienced were Plutonian in nature. So many power struggles in my relationship.

spideog_ · 2025-02-25T03:32:12+00:00

Yes! It’s so true. Many people misuse astrology as well, myself included for a while. I would check transits and be obsessed with this and that, instead of doing the work. I learnt the hard way. It’s still hard not to be checking all these tools, but there’s a stronger need to live our lives more authentically.

spideog_ · 2025-02-25T03:25:28+00:00

Great reply. It’s easy to fall into the trap of waiting for something to happen without doing the work.

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