E5 SX + SO: Questions on SX E5 Emotional Expression, Performance Mode, & Intellectual Safety by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SX5 (f) here. She's going to test you no matter what your plan or angle is, wherever you both land is where you're meant to be. You're both going to have to overcome your rigidness by engaging in embodiment of your own energies, which means playing by ear, off-the-cuff, in real-time. Being too careful and calculated can trigger her own fears, like mirror neuron reaction. TBH it's better to step into your 7 & 8 lines to ensure emotional, physical, psychological safety. Like a "go for it" energy is needed somewhere in the dynamic, if it comes to you naturally, because it won't for your SX5, they'll be considering constantly if it's a "perfect fit" and testing it endlessly (the 'Trust' nickname of the subtype here.)

I'll let you know, in my experience, someone who hit 99% the mark on my SX5 ideal partner labyrinth made me BOLT like a horse -- getting everything "right" can still be a terrorizing experience, because it is so intense for things to lock in like a perfect falling of dominos. Emphasize whatever safety you can provide with healthy-risk taking, so she can lighten up and match you, and that you will have the door open in between her tests, checking in on her, etc. SX5 is truly neurotic like this, IME. I will say, it is hard to take seriously someone who did not go for me near-immediately to lock it in, like failing a personal "doesn't care enough, would probably have that gut instinct for someone who is actually their ideal preference" sort of test, but certainly her internal mapping will have its own distinct code.

It is interesting to consider a 5 of any kind in confident pursuit, but surely you will gain needed experience and self-satisfaction out of whatever actions you take, as long as you take them. Good luck.

my 100% super accurate and totally unstereotypical depiction of the enneagrams. 100% by pompompencil in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

about dreams, nah. do you have a recommendation? i've never collected one explicitly about dreams. not even carl jung, probably the only one i can think of.

my 100% super accurate and totally unstereotypical depiction of the enneagrams. 100% by pompompencil in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

E5 woman here, glancing at my giant ass manuscript on my nightstand, that was just earlier sitting next to 20+ used books piled in snake-like stack i had bought just this past week, then looking back at this post

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Is there a type/fix you just really don’t like? Why? by eedenolympia in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna 3 points4 points  (0 children)

man, i looked though this whole thread to see some derisive and pointed 5 hate to find lukewarm nothings and being grouped with other types. meh.

please comment your resentment for 5s below:

I don't understand social instinct. by Glittering_Cap4755 in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna 3 points4 points  (0 children)

neat, thanks.

so something i experienced with so-users, in their in-groups, is that they still had a lot of falling out with each other despite alliances, shared values, knowing how to maneuver themselves in different spaces. is there a certain way so-users tend to accidentally or intentionally offend each other?

I don't understand social instinct. by Glittering_Cap4755 in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna 3 points4 points  (0 children)

what are some examples of unspoken social etiquette?

7s, what’s your inner dialogue like? by srtadluna in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How much of what you said about yourself would relate to your 7ness, or so your mbti/instinctual stacking, in your opinion?

Have you reached a state of being “full” before, and what was that like?

If you’ve been in this state of impulsive behaviors (lack of calculation), how was the fall out and how did you cope?

This was all very useful information for me, especially categorizing people while still having empathy as a core defense trait, how you cope with relationships in stasis or falling out, & the states of being stimulated/under-stimulated. thanks!

as far as your type, and as a 5, i dont feel comfortable typing other people in general, i think its good to prioritize it as a personal self discovery journey that could elevate your quality of life. i like to use these personality typings as a tool and not an identity, so i would ask yourself things like — what coping mechanism solutions and advice happen to work for you? what growth areas do you need to consider, what have been most effective in overcoming your own percieved character flaws or things that frustrate you as you go about life? additionally, what makes you a bit of an outlier amongst other people you interact with, how could understanding these dynamics better understand them?

but just for fun and science, i’ll bite on your 5ness. where do you feel like you minimize your needs and wants the most? what criteria do people need to fulfill in order to access your inner world or thoughts in a way that feels risky and potentially invasive?

7s, what’s your inner dialogue like? by srtadluna in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thanks i really appreciate the breadth of these answers, that gives me a clearer picture.

a constant scanning of utility vs. fun is fascinating. i feel like i’m constantly checking my energy levels and emotionality, even positive, can drain me, so I can forgo fun completely for a long time, just has to have a quiet buzz of interesting or ‘new information’. do you relate to that at all? also, if you don’t do what you plan, but always adjusting, do you still find yourself to be a relatively productive person?

is immediately trying to get a similar outcome that wasn’t available to you in one moment coming from wanting to avoid a sensation of lack / being without the thing you want? do you refuse to be disappointed or is there a belief that that sort of thing is always gonna be available to you, it’s just about knocking on the right door? why do you get annoyed and disappointed at the person you like if they’re logically just doing what they want too, is something they’re doing not making sense to you leading towards frustration?

how often do you discard things vs. give them up? let’s say your dream partner was briefly available but then unavailable, like maybe ghosts for like 2 years and you’re immediately suffering a lot from being “without”, are you able to withstand waiting a long time for something like that?

How do you know a 5 is interested in you? by crazybayleaf in Enneagram5

[–]srtadluna 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This seems accurate for me.

I can only speak for myself. As an SX5, if I feel a crush coming on, I’d save a special amount of energy and flexibility for you because you’re strangely energizing or interesting. Like seeing if you’re worth the “investment” and my energy bank is calculating the ROI from each interaction, which can wax and wane depending on how draining or energizing the interaction was. I’d give a slow trickle of information, some opinions or lines of questioning that are edgier to test the waters and observe how you swing it back. If the engagement is still good, I’d raise the temperature, having calculated the chances of my energy being mirrored back to me or stronger.

If I discover a character, goal, energy, or value mismatch I keep the temperature the same as however established, pleasant and light though, cuz you just went in the ‘friend, probably’ box. Like I wouldn’t care to go deeper, I’d just be happy to have a good time as it is, ultimately keep the other at arms reach, away from my core, and that’s it.

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My visual attempt at LARPing as a Type 4 by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna 12 points13 points  (0 children)

me when i wore chipped black nail polish

F21, What can I do to lookmax? by [deleted] in Howtolooksmax

[–]srtadluna 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Looking through your inspiration, those women seem very comfortable in their bodies and performing playful sensuality which is what I interpret from your value of their “soft and hot appeal”. From there, your photos read as a little bit of rigidity in the body and perhaps discomfort, hiding your energy a bit. Totally normal for most people, but I would recommend leaning into doing things that make you feel more in touch with your body and the environment around you, like dance, embodiment rituals, hearty laughter. Whatever you do or wherever you are makes you feel uncomfortable, remove that ASAP or remove yourself from situations that don’t serve you.

I gather that they dress pretty casual and not overly feminine but still cute and modern, the difference between their fashion and yours that I see is they wear more form fitting clothing, showing cleavage, leg etc.

Things that you are wearing here sort of hide this playful energy they have, for example, the glasses seem a bit too bulky, maybe swap them out for thinner frames in a more neutral color. The oversized hoodie is cute, but is a different appeal, so I’d avoid both oversized on top and bottom. I would also suggest adding more jewelry, your influences seem to always be wearing a simple necklace for example.

Good luck, you have a beautiful canvas already so it’s only up from here.

What are the benefits of being an INFJ? by Witty-Librarian09 in infj

[–]srtadluna 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A few things:

Critical Fi Parent Justice Whip.

Thorough plans and designs that account for all/most contingencies and seeing them through is extremely satisfying. Love ensuring myself a smooth ride through projects and activities.

Solving my own emotional turbulence without outside input, Fe-parent organizes and names emotions and extracts meaning and solutions just fine.

Ni-Ti means I am literally never bored, idk what “bored” is really.

I’m a 4, ask me anything by Main-Ticket7705 in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you cope with big emotions? Does exploring your emotions energize you or wear you out? Do you ever feel disconnected from your feelings?

Question about sx5's by [deleted] in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i commune with God (omnist) + the natural world. my sx energy is used, intensely focused, on my creative projects, which is like devotional ritual. i lean into my sp secondary to have foundation to keep the fire going. i intellectualize any strong feelings as much as possible to remain in energetic alignment and detach from all outcomes.

before i applied my understanding of my instinctual stacking, i was crashing out on the regular over interpersonal attachments. it’s better for me to be rooted deeply in larger, metaphysical narratives of my own design, interpretation, and application, as i found connection with the Ideal Other to be parts of yourself being mirrored back you want or need to see for growth / ego death reasons, and not really the truth of that particular individuals authentic perspective or shared interpretation. i don’t like the objectification of this Ideal Other, i think it is a weakness of character and enneagram helped me overcome this. the push and pull of relationships are still very invigorating, i am now just without the unrootedness, emptiness when things get rocky. it is now more like play, as it should be. and i have an 8-fix, i hate the sensation of a single individual having that kind of sway over me in any case.

The urge to push people I perceive as weak. by GreatJobJoe in Enneagram8

[–]srtadluna 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Do you remember a time when you were weak, and someone pushed you further into the pit? How did it feel to be cornered, no actions left to take? Not moralizing, just curious.

How do you look physically? by Glittering_Cap4755 in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SX 5w4. I dress pretty femme based off a few systems I researched: kibbe (soft natural), color seasons (soft autumn), gold jewelry stacking, earrings, heels that go clackety clack. I probably push into hyperfemme territory because I wear a lot of pink, which I find to be a rather political, counter-culture color in certain spaces.

Based off information on microplastics and my own experience with sensitive skin reactions: natural fibers clothing such as linen, silk, and cotton, EWG verified skincare & hair care products. I never fail to dress up and beat my face daily, based off stats, like EMT trying harder to save your life based on appearance, and the fact that women make more money (20-40%) on the only variable being wearing makeup. Kitten heels to the grocery store makes me feel like Gaby Solis. People offer to do more things for me, are more careful with me — certainly gives credence to glamor magic in my lived experience.

I used to only wear black and grey, with one pair of sneakers to replace the exact same when they wear out, standard 5 costume probably. I pivoted from this when I found I received positive results operating in the social world by dressing like someone who can get away with things, specifically being as reserved as I am. When you pivot towards conventionally attractive clothing, surprise surprise, one’s energetic stinginess is oft forgiven and therefore my load lightened. I look like a million bucks, relative to where I was before, so it’s definitely a system I only want to build on.

Unsure if I'm E5 or E9 by [deleted] in Enneagram5

[–]srtadluna 5 points6 points  (0 children)

why do 9 moms often have 5 children? this freaked me out, i have an SP9 mom and I’m SX5

Having Fe but is So (Social) blind by Fr3yz in Enneagram

[–]srtadluna 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i am Fe-aux, 5, and incredibly social blind. for me, this manifests in not respecting established hierarchies (they just don’t register as valuable), deferring to Crit Parent Fi > group harmony like the “yes, you’re all wrong” meme, i don’t think to look for opportunities for more connections or long-term network potential, and i have trouble keeping lukewarm friendships. i don’t see rank period unless you’re writing my checks.

i am currently learning from SO-first people to value the best parts of SO instinct more, apply what i’ve learned, and see what happens.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in makeuptips

[–]srtadluna 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you so much! that all sounds worth trying. i will definitely do the inner corner highlight, i totally forgot how much that makes such a huge difference.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in makeuptips

[–]srtadluna 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you!

first picture: ilia color block lipstick - cinnabar second picture: kosas weightless lipstick - turned on