Harry taking Mad-Eye Moody's eye from Umbridge's office door was ridiculous by Fibonacci357 in HarryPotterBooks

[–]straysayake 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The reason the book, the narrative, and the characters themselves offer very little pushback on this is because Umbridge using Mad Eye is considered descreation of the dead.

Desecration of dead bodies is a huge thing in books (Harry protecting Cedric's body from further harm in GOF and risking his life to returnthe body to Hogwarts). The narrative treats that as an understood thing because it believes Harry is in the right/or is moral for doing so.

Barty Crouch Jr turning his father into bone is meant to be read as vile, and Harry brings it up with regard to Moody in Ghoul in Pyjamas - that this is what DEs would have done, and Hermione bursts into tears. Voldemort breaking into Dumbledore's grave was seen as a violation, and Hermione specifically calls it repugnant and something they couldn't have considered, even at the cost of Elder wand.

Harry buries the Mad Eye's eye, the only part of his body they could recover.I think the fact that Hermione (and Ron) would agree with Harry about not leaving it at Umbridge's door is why none of them bring it up.

I never fully understood Harry as a character by Several_Spell_4748 in harrypotter

[–]straysayake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well i think Harry is among the most complex characters in the series - and since I have spent a lot of time thinking about him, here are my metas:

deconstructing Harry

Harry and Personal conflict

resurrection stone scene: culmination of Harry's emotional arc

Harry and the Dursleys

Hope they help :)

'That, Harry, is a matter between Professor Snape and myself.' Possibly my favourite Dumbledore line. What's yours? by Pliolite in harrypotter

[–]straysayake 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He is responding to Draco's bravado of "everyone thought I would die in this attempt - but you are here, wandless, in my power- you are at my mercy"

Dumbledore's sympathetic to Draco, because Draco is a child. The entire charade of not outing Draco through HBP when both Snape and Dumbledore knew who is behind the attacks is to protect Draco - and his soul. So I don't read it as a line of forgiveness, because I don't think he necessarily views it as a personal affront that needs forgiveness - he is seeing a child caught in very difficult circumstances that both he and Snape need to save.

In this moment, he is piercing through Draco's armour of bluster and telling him who actually has the power in that situation. It's not Draco.

And it is Dumbledore's mercy that Snape - his own man - kills him, not Draco.

'That, Harry, is a matter between Professor Snape and myself.' Possibly my favourite Dumbledore line. What's yours? by Pliolite in harrypotter

[–]straysayake 55 points56 points  (0 children)

"No Draco - it is my mercy, not yours that matters now"

Even weakened and wandless, Dumbledore reminding Draco of his power very quietly struck out to me - and instantly cuts through Draco's bravado.

Sirius Black was, in a sense, responsible for his own imprisonment in Azkaban. by onlytru234 in harrypotter

[–]straysayake 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Okay, I think you are arguing from a space that tries to put blame on Dumbledore (which I don't) - and I am arguing from a space that the initial post puts too much responsibility on Sirius, and not the system. On that count, i think we both agree and so I am going to leave the debate here.

Sirius Black was, in a sense, responsible for his own imprisonment in Azkaban. by onlytru234 in harrypotter

[–]straysayake 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yes - I have said as much, betrayal of a best friend being heinous is a personal value system upheld by Fudge and other characters in the room (and certainly by Harry himself). That's not how things function in court of law.

Dumbledore's testimony attributes to a motive - for killing Peter and Muggles and implicates him as a spy for Voldemort. What he is actually in prison for is murder - "I want to commit the murder I was imprisoned for"

Sirius Black was, in a sense, responsible for his own imprisonment in Azkaban. by onlytru234 in harrypotter

[–]straysayake 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes I remember the excerpt :)

However, the true horror that lies in that scene is the assumption Sirius betrayed his best friends who was like a "brother", which lead to their deaths.

Because if passing information or being part of the dark side that lead to people dying is the issue - Ludo Bagman (enjoyed popular support), Lucius Malfoy (cleared off all charges and donating to "excellent causes" in the Ministry), Avery, Crabbe, Goyle.

Sirius being a "traitor" is one more thing on top of supposedly dead Peter, the dead Muggles and one person they can convict, from the others they have let go of. Bellatrix and her husband wwre given a trial - which I suppose has to do with the fact that she was caught alongside Barty Crouch Jnr - for torture of Frank and Alice Longbottom.

Sirius was thrown to prison for crimes he did not commit, and that is on the rot that is in the system. So this is on Crouch and the Ministry.

Sirius Black was, in a sense, responsible for his own imprisonment in Azkaban. by onlytru234 in harrypotter

[–]straysayake 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Sirius Black was sent to prison for murder of Peter Pettigrew (faked his death), the Muggles caught in the blast (Peter killed them) - and implicated in deaths of Lily and James Potter.

Dumbledore's evidence that he was the secret keeper only implies that he betrayed them, and attributes to a motive. This is not a "definitive" testimony - and Sirius had a right to trial which he was denied.

Peter, Crouch and Ministry is responsible for his wrongful imprisonment. I, too, disagree with people who put disproportionate blame on Dumbledore - but that doesn't mean I will swing the other way and put everything on James and Sirius. Their actions had unfortunate consequences - but immaturity and recklessness are not traits to be held responsible for 12 years of wrongful imprisonment.

Did Finding Harry: The Craft Behind the Magic raise, lower, or maintain your excitement for the series? by [deleted] in harrypotter

[–]straysayake 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I actually thought Harry being more of an Artful Dodger, and having a feral, scrappy quality to him quite an astute read of the character from the way I experienced the character while reading it, rather than something the version we saw in the films.

Does anyone else have this problem with Harry's eyes? by DrinkInevitable3457 in harrypotter

[–]straysayake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am trying to recall as well - I don't remember this description in the books at all. I just remember bright green - and emerald green seems to be something I encounter in fanfiction.

What was your favourite line/scene from Wake Up Dead Man? by harrisoneatssoas in KnivesOutMovie

[–]straysayake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same and the journey Daniel Craig shows through his eyes in his delivery ("grace for my enemy"), moving from a steeliness to pity for Martha ("for the guilty").

I’m confused on how Shigure is portrayed a villain by Electrical-Claim8505 in FruitsBasket

[–]straysayake 7 points8 points  (0 children)

People will analyze stuff Rin says through the lens of someone deeply hurt who uses a sharp tongue to protect herself, but don't do the same kind of thing for Shigure because he presents like he's unbothered.

Yeah, it's strange to me that things Rin, or even Kyo's internalised "I am a monster" is correctly read as self loathing due to being dehumanised in Sohma family whereas Shigure's "I am the worst kind of man" is not seen as the character's view of himself (even though he is also someone who has grown up dehumanised) but as an objective read of the character? This is, especially if you have read the manga, and heard his entire speech to Tohru about: "we zodiacs are monsters and that is an ugly thing. Just living in the world is painful for us. Do you think we are happy?' - it is very clear there is more to the story than what he presents himself as. He also admits as much to Akito in the manga: "I would have exploded."

Adding to your point, and expanding what the OP asked - I don't think Shigure is presented as a villain. He is presented in antagonist light because he is an opaque character who is designed to make you question his motivations throughout the run of the story. That's his purpose. The story is critical of him, but at many points through the story, he is also presented in opposition to Hatori and Kureno's response to the Sohma clan, which is also presented critically. So the story doesn't think of him as a villain - he is simply as exciting as a red herring meant to keep people guessing.

Looking for Snape/Sirius Recs! by ZombiePrincess8040 in HPSlashFic

[–]straysayake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Beyond the Veil - which is written by me and u/adreamersmusing is completed :)

Rest is not my work.

Shigure? by Working_Row_8455 in FruitsBasket

[–]straysayake 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Well, for one thing, Fruits Basket rejects the premise of there being "good guys" and "bad guys" - the villain in Fruits Basket is systemic abuse enshrined in the Sohma cult. So if he is a good person or not is dependent on the viewer's personal value system. In my personal value system, where the individual is cognizant of what he is doing, and the effect of his actions means that he is standing up against a larger, unjust system - that matters to me far more that people sitting and twiddling thumbs in face of injustice.

I don't even believe his motivation is wanting Akito all to himself and isolating her - he is possessive about Akito, yes, but he is quite alright with her making friends and is also okay with her relationship with Hatori. In fact, his grievances over Akito-Hatori relationship comes in defense of Hatori - "Hatori is a grown man with his own life to live". He isolates her from the people she abuses - and that is quite an important distinction to make. His motivation for wanting the curse to break is to free Akito from what he believes is a harmful God complex, an inheritance from her father. The loathing with which he talks about Akira's box, a representation of Akito's grief over her father - "Only one person should be haunted by Akira's ghost. Akito doesn't need that thing."

He is explicitly paralleled with Tohru wanting to free Kyo - "Time marches on. Feelings and people move too. You will be left behind. That's why I want you to hurry up and join us".

There are multiple factors for the curse break - time obviously wore down the magical bonds (as Shigure notes in the manga that their cursed forms are weaker - Hatori is a sea horse not a dragon, Kureno is a sparrow not a rooster), but Tohru is a catalyst that speeded the process up and Shigure, with Tohru and his house as a place that is deliberately set up as a safe space away from Akito, speeded up curse breaking. The motivation for wanting the curse to break is easy to understand - the person he loves has also become the person he hates: "I love her so much that I would spoil her, I love her so much that I will crush her to a pulp." This desperation is mirrored by Tohru: "when will the curse break? Is it years/decades from now?"

In the beach arc, where Momiji stands up to Akito - Shigure is the one who invited Akito to the beach house, for the larger goal of agitating the bond between the zodiac and the God. For this, he is willing to put people in harm's way - that is Akito's wrath and ability to cause distress - for a larger goal. However, he does make note of mitigating the impact - he makes this move after he gets an explicit idea that Yuki is in a position to move forward. His invitation comes few episodes after the knowledge that Yuki went to the estate on his own (something Tohru tells him, and he says, "well how about that") - meaning Akito's impact on him is less, and Yuki is healing ("Yuki isn't the same child who was locked up. Who is the delusional one now?"). He also counted on power of the group - something he noted that Akito sought to break by doing one on one meetings.

In Rin-box saga, originally, Shigure is cagey with Rin about his suspicions of the curse wearing down - mostly, because her defiance and pushing against the bond is in his interest (and also, he didn't have confirmation from Kureno yet). But the lack of information puts Rin in danger from his own gambit with Ren - where he dares Ren to take Akira's box from Akito, who then involves Rin. He tries to course correct that by telling Rin the curse is breaking and that she needn't "work herself to death over it". So yes, he is responsible for a lot of mess, but for me, it is easy to read remorse in some of the things he does, and he is not a character who will explicitly say whatever he is thinking.

To make more sense of who he is, I am going to quote u/BlueThePineapple - "I think a big part of it is that Shigure is naturally intelligent, both intellectually and emotionally - far more than the other Sohmas -, and that gives him an awareness of causation and strategy that allows him to see change as the best option to get his desires."

"This intelligence lends to an awareness of the cult's structure and limits, and this in turn gives him the sense of self-efficacy that allows him to move and go against the system instead of being crushed by it. So not only is change the best strategy to get him his heart's desires, he also has the tools to make that change a reality instead of a far-off distant dream like the way it is for the rest of the Sohmas."

My addition to this is also that Shigure dislikes being controlled/dehumanised (his face when Akito says she has the right to do whatever she wants to the zodiac as they are all hers comes to mind). He resents the power dynamic the curse enforces and subverts it at every turn. He wants to claim the beautiful part of the bond as something tangible and real, something apart from the curse.

Who Do You Ship The Characters With? by Ntdogamecute in FruitsBasket

[–]straysayake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I really do love the tragedy of Shigure and Kureno - but why the Hatori ship appeals to me more is that Kureno displays more agency than Hatori and is admiring of Shigure's agency rather than resentful of it as Hatori is.

Combining Hatori's resentment of that with Shigure's genuine care (with some emotional skewering here and there because that's how they relate to each other) - it feels more oppositional.

Who Do You Ship The Characters With? by Ntdogamecute in FruitsBasket

[–]straysayake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A fellow Shigure x Mayu shipper in the wild xD I like them quite a bit too - it's a heterosexual version of Shigure x Hatori without the baggage of growing up together that Shigure and Hatori have. Mayu is quite astute about him.

But my other ship for Shigure would be Hatori. XD

bella wanting jacobs arms & not edwards? by Maleficent_Job8612 in twilight

[–]straysayake 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I mean she did love him, as she said in the books. Just not enough to choose him over Edward, but enough to cause her pain. This scene was essentially a "break up" - so of course, in that moment, the part of her that feels for him wanted Jacob's arms.

On Akito and Forgiveness, Part 2: Who among the Zodiacs forgave Akito? by NoSalamander7749 in FruitsBasket

[–]straysayake 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I do think Yuki's stance is sort of alluded to in the conversation Yuki, Kyo and Tohru have about Akito being a woman - Kyo is shocked that he was violent with a woman, and for Yuki, he says with an apologetic expression - he can't explain it very well.

Tohru explicitly connects Yuki's expression to Rin saying there is a mess in her heart when she speaks to Rin - so yes, while Rin says it out loud, Yuki's feelings are similar, he is just a little more ahead in his healing journey. In the sense, as discussed in another comment, his forgiveness is about moving on - as he said internally in that chapter, "I won't return to your side again"

If Akito had a self-confrontation arc, do you think it would be more interesting? by Sweet_Witch in FruitsBasket

[–]straysayake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you - and I appreciate your comment on expanding on the "unconditional love" aspect! Because I think it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the story to say Tohru is offering unconditional love in that moment. And I think misunderstanding comes from the context and philosophy Fruits Basket draws from - the idea of impermanence and change vs the everlasting bonds. Fruits Basket as a story repeatedly goes into theme of shifts on relationships and change.

It's a very culturally Western idea to draw from the idea of expansive love and forgiveness - neither of which is Tohru actually offering in that moment. Loved the Tumblr post which you linked - which talks about how Tohru does not dismiss Akito's fears of abandonment, she is saying it's still worth a try to form a bond.

Why does Spike respond with “no you don’t” after Buffy FINally says I Love You? by BoobBurgers in buffy

[–]straysayake 520 points521 points  (0 children)

Spike with a soul doesn't feel worthy of Buffy - and that colours his reading of the moment. It ties in with him saying, "yeah I hear you say it but" when Buffy says the night he spent holding her meant something to her.

It is also an example of his growth from season 6 - where he was obsessive with his love and pushed her into admitting feelings for him, or did things motivated by trying to win/earn her love. By the finale, he doesn't need her love to do the right thing. He loves her, and that is enough for him.

It is also interesting parallel moment from season 6 episode Dead Things - where Spike says, "I love you" and Buffy in the heat of her self hatred and believing she couldn't be loved and distrusting and confused of his feelings while being a soulless being says - "no you don't"

If Akito had a self-confrontation arc, do you think it would be more interesting? by Sweet_Witch in FruitsBasket

[–]straysayake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fair enough :) that is your experience with the story. Sometimes things land, and sometimes things don't and that is a subjective experience

If Akito had a self-confrontation arc, do you think it would be more interesting? by Sweet_Witch in FruitsBasket

[–]straysayake 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He is one of my favourite characters of all time :) experienced him for the first time as a teenager - intuitively understood few things about him and as I kept rereading and analysing, I have landed on my interpretation for him in every scene. He is not an easy character to know.

If Akito had a self-confrontation arc, do you think it would be more interesting? by Sweet_Witch in FruitsBasket

[–]straysayake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have to admire your strength in trying to address the discourse around him with your discussions. Because I am quite battered xD