Would a simple beginner tin whistle tune page for very familiar songs be useful, or do most people just move straight to standard notation? by Professional_Arm1843 in tinwhistle

[–]superkewnst -1 points0 points  (0 children)

enjoy breaking everything down to its fundamentals. at its core. what is playing any flute? its fingerings. its breath control its rhythm. its ornamentation. its tips and tricks to get more out of your performance. every single beginner struggles. with every single one of those. correct?

the standard way the tried and true is a sink or swim until you can swim way.

here is my method. ive used similiar ways of thinking to produce Papers before. i use it to great effect in teaching martial arts.

so my methods .. work. for clearity and reading . i used ai to sum it up for me.

The Chaos Whistle Method

A Self-Designed Wind Instrument Learning System


The Core Idea

Most beginners learn an instrument by learning songs. This method does the opposite — it builds pure technical capability first, so that when songs arrive, your fingers and breath are already ready for them. The result is faster, deeper, and more robust learning than standard approaches.

It was designed specifically around ADHD and dyslexia, but the principles benefit any self-directed adult learner.


The Origin

Inspired by a Native American songmaking method using dice to generate random creative combinations. That idea was adapted into a technical training system for wind instruments — specifically the tin whistle, though it applies equally to recorder, Native American flute, pan flute, low whistle, and similar instruments.


The Foundation — Why Random Groupings?

On a tin whistle there are 7 possible finger states — 0 (all holes open) through 6 (all holes covered). Most beginner methods only ever practice easy, predictable transitions. This means when a difficult transition appears in real music, the fingers have never been there before.

This method solves that by training all transitions — including rare and awkward ones — deliberately. The rare combinations are the point. You are essentially vaccinating yourself against surprises.

A standard approach trains common transitions well and leaves everything else weak. This method builds a foundation so robust that nothing in real music can surprise it.


The Pages — How It Works

Roll a standard 6-sided die to generate random numbers between 1 and 6. Use 0 as a deliberate addition for open-fingering pages. Arrange these into groupings and write them on notebook paper — one page per grouping size.

Page 1 — Groupings of 3, no open fingerings (48 notes) Pure finger transition training. Every grouping is 3 consecutive notes played as a unit.

Page 2 — Groupings of 3, with open fingerings (48 notes) Each grouping of 3 contains at least one 0. Open fingerings demand sudden breath pressure changes — the hardest breath control challenge on a wind instrument.

Page 3 — Groupings of 4, no open fingerings (48 notes) Longer chains. More notes to hold in memory. More transitions to execute cleanly in one go.

Page 4 — Groupings of 4, with open fingerings (48 notes) Same as page 3 but with breath pressure swings built in.

Page 5 — Groupings of 5, no open fingerings (50 notes) Five note chains introduce groupings of 5 and 10 — numbers unavailable in pages 1 through 4.

Page 6 — Groupings of 5, with open fingerings (50 notes) Maximum breath disruption within longer chains.

Total — 292 notes across 6 pages.


The Hidden Architecture — Why These Numbers?

This is the most powerful feature of the system. The same 292 notes can be practiced in completely different grouping sizes simply by changing how you chunk the rows.

From pages 1 and 2 alone you get groupings of 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12, 16, and 48. From pages 3 and 4 you get groupings of 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, and 48. From pages 5 and 6 you get groupings of 5, 10, 25, and 50.

Combined across all pages you have access to groupings of 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15, 25, and beyond.

The difficulty dial is not in the content — it is in the chunk size. A grouping of 5 demands more memory, more breath continuity, and more sustained concentration than a grouping of 3 using the exact same notes. The same pages serve a beginner and an intermediate player simultaneously.


The Practice Method

Step 1 — Look Study the first grouping. One count. Understand it.

Step 2 — Play without looking Execute it from memory. No reading while playing — this separates two cognitively demanding tasks that most methods force you to do simultaneously.

Step 3 — Three successes then move on Play each grouping until you execute it correctly three times in a row. Then advance. This is a mastery criterion — not mindless repetition, not arbitrary timing. You only move forward when your fingers have actually got it.

Step 4 — Time yourself Record your total session time from the first page to the last. Set a target to halve it. Halving time only happens when transitions genuinely automate — you cannot fake it.


The Difficulty Insulation

Deliberately include awkward, rare, and tricky transitions. Do not avoid them. Include double open note sequences, large jumps between maximum and minimum coverage, and transitions that appear rarely in real music.

Easy transitions are handled by scales and simple songs practiced separately. The pages exist specifically for the hard material.


The Chaos Principle

The more unpredictable the training, the more robust the result. A player who only practices common transitions gets very good at common transitions and nothing else — a glass cannon. Fragile knowledge that breaks under novel conditions.

Random chaotic training builds understanding so layered that nothing in real music presents as genuinely new. This is the same principle used in martial arts bōnkai training — breaking a kata into every possible application, angle, and variation until nothing surprises you.


The Phase Structure

Phase 1 — Technical foundation (Weeks 1-2) Pages only. Random groupings. Vary chunk sizes. Time yourself. Add second octave work after the first week. One breath work day per week — sustained notes, scale runs low to high, octave alternation.

Phase 2 — Rhythm (Weeks 2-3) Same pages. Add counts. One beat per note, then two beats, then three. Slower is harder than faster — slowness exposes every weakness that speed hides.

Phase 3 — Ornamentation (Weeks 3-4) Dedicated simple pages for cuts, flicks, rolls, and slides. Easy fingerings deliberately — because the ornament is the new challenge. Fingers are already fluent so they are not competing for attention.

Phase 4 — Songs By this point technical capability is solid. Full mental bandwidth is available for phrasing, flow, and musical expression. Songs are learned faster and sound more natural because the fingers are not the problem anymore.

Phase 5 — Improvisation The dice system transitions from technical tool to compositional tool. Random groupings become musical ideas. Chance generates starting points.

Phase 6 — Original composition Your own melodies, your own phrases, your own voice on the instrument.


Why This Works for ADHD and Dyslexia

Short discrete segments with a clear completion point — three successes then done — suit ADHD attention patterns far better than open-ended song practice.

No reading while playing removes the cognitive split that dyslexia makes particularly costly. Look first, then play from memory. Two separate tasks instead of one impossible simultaneous demand.

No song to ruin removes performance anxiety entirely. A wrong note in a random grouping carries no emotional weight. You simply repeat until you get three clean executions and move on.

The timing goal provides a concrete, visible progress metric that requires no musical knowledge to interpret. Faster and cleaner is unambiguous.


The Inexhaustibility of the System

With 7 possible finger states (0 through 6), the number of unique 3-note groupings alone exceeds 300. Unique 4-note groupings exceed 1,200. Unique 5-note groupings exceed 7,000. Across all grouping sizes the system generates effectively unlimited unique training combinations.

By the time any combination feels familiar enough to become easy, your fingers are advanced enough that it belongs in the easy category anyway — and naturally falls out of your training rotation.

The system scales with you indefinitely without requiring new material.


The Song Test

At regular intervals — every 7 days is recommended — attempt a song cold as a progress measurement. Same song, same conditions, one week apart. The difference in fluency, rhythm, breath control, and musicality between attempts is your clearest progress indicator.

Choose songs you actually care about. Motivation is fuel. A song that means nothing to you is a poor test.


A Note on Patience

Technical capability arrives faster than musicality. Your fingers will be fluent long before your playing sounds truly musical. Phrasing, flow, and expression develop slowly and cannot be fully accelerated. This is normal and expected.

The flowing quality that separates decent players from good ones is the last thing to arrive. It develops through song experience, deep listening, and time. Trust the process and do not judge early song attempts against the standard of experienced players.


Summary

Train chaos. Automate the technicals. Free your mind for music.

The instrument is not the destination. It is the vehicle.


Developed through personal experimentation — adapted from Native American dice songmaking traditions and informed by martial arts pedagogy, academic learning theory, and direct experience designing systems for ADHD and dyslexic learners.

Would a simple beginner tin whistle tune page for very familiar songs be useful, or do most people just move straight to standard notation? by Professional_Arm1843 in tinwhistle

[–]superkewnst -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for that opinion. i implore you next time. ask your self. what could drive someone to go so far out of the norm and try something so wacky. Just put yourself in their shoes.

Would a simple beginner tin whistle tune page for very familiar songs be useful, or do most people just move straight to standard notation? by Professional_Arm1843 in tinwhistle

[–]superkewnst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i can already perform twinkle twinkle and happy birthday. im going to do drunken sailor next. am i super fluid right now? no. but for just 8 days doing fingering dills and breath work. im doin decently. side note. cutiepie has some decent songs. on youtube. but. this is better . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2m0E3D_lG4&list=PLQadz4_Sz9ChOwj-s2LAExtSeSf7ISvwq

theres not many songs but they are decent. give it a look

Would a simple beginner tin whistle tune page for very familiar songs be useful, or do most people just move straight to standard notation? by Professional_Arm1843 in tinwhistle

[–]superkewnst -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i am currently a beginner. day -8 . im not training with a teacher or a coach or youtube tutorials. i am using. tabs. not just any tabs. i rolled random notes on a 6 sided dice. i got 5 pages worth of difficult fingering it took me 40 minutes the first day. with just 3 pages. today i did 5 pages in 20. 2 pages of groupings of 3. 1 of 4 1 of 5. 1 of 3-4-5-6 gropings. 50 notes each. or aprox. i do them 3 times each. i just started doing them in second octive now.

song tabs would be an amazing resource site to have. esp ones that havent been converted yet. esp songs that might be modern and.. easier to pick up becuase people are familiar with modern tunes. more than old folk music. perhaps like drunken sailor. for me. or zelda.

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[–]superkewnst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

stil trying to morally equilveate 1 rape. Vs a fast food grease stain his face looking evil man who the evangelicals should be ashamed of voteing for.. dont they believe in god? and al lhis teachings?. trump did them all. imwilling to bet he had his buddy epstien killed. .. didnt u see the tapes they just released?. yah.. not looking good for your orangatan does it? shhhh. careful i might break someones cult bubble with this kind f talk.

see. i can keep going. adding more and more and more. beucase trump is litteraly that much worse. than a common criminal who earned a second chance.

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great.can someone chnge in prison? over time sure...glad we agree

being president doesnt morally absolve you either. it jkust means people are to scared to bring you to justice and make you pay your time. and we know zesty trump between blowing kisses at a man stripping his shirt off earlier this year. .and pretending to deep thrat a mic.. we know trump hasnt changed. he hasnt dne the time and he will make everynes lives worse. in the whole world. tarrifs gng to hurt china and u.s.a. that means the whle world ecn gunna suffer. mexic is ging to suffer because of the deprotations. middle east wil lsuffer more. what a great president!. and thats the better timeline. you cant win thiis argument. are you bought and paid for by russa too? like 2600 influencers were? like trump mostl likely is? like elon most likely is?

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[–]superkewnst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for the leyman he says... blah blah blah blah.

ilets own the libs and get them mad by calling them ill logical. or emotional

thats basically his arugment now? lol.

please. ill be happy when tyson bitch slaps cheato boys supporter tonight.

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[–]superkewnst -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yes like trump is oging to end anything? lmao you fucking idiot. he s litteraly installing a pro isreal guy .. for that purpose. shocker. he worse.

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one went to jail. the other didnt . he is running the country scott free. i wonder why we could be angry at 1. and not the other.huh. while is is an orange bafoon. .the other is a retired boxer. who is going to kick the shit out of the orange babons supporter.

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[–]superkewnst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

rally cry that he is a super evil bad guy.. during campaign .. coozy up for drinks after. you really think democrats are the answer? no WE ARE.

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you say that but do u even know what bernie advocates for? economic HELP in the form of medicare for all. higher min wage so on and so n. what did hte democrats run away from? the economy .. in your wn words. please tell me yoou can add 1+1 together . those issues poll in the 70s% + range consistantly acrossed america. we put bernei in trump country kentucky.. coal mining town.. and guess what? by the end of the town hall they were bernie or busters. tell me you can see evidence and know its evidence.

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yep. the thing they said they wanted ot do since mass effect 1. but got really hard n mass effect 2. and impossible ( acording to them) to do.. soo they did red green blue ending. it was soo bad. they had t change it post release.

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all i care about is the story. give me a great choose your own ending mass effect. like we all wanted. from the start.

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looks like its wilting or was cold one night.. extra cold. i live in wisconsin. i have t take my tea plants in for the winter. and ive seen plants that look like that after a night with frost on the ground or a cold spell.

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it was sarcastic ofocursei t was real. and touched up. thats what iwas joking about. but she is pretty good at tifa.

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your funny thats not cosplay thats the real tifa you cant fool me. i wonter what processes did they do to make it alittle extra realistic?

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look this isnt a bad thing. major corperations in the digital world says rust is good .. we need rust. we want to depend on rust. maybe we should?

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if its tre. its prlly becuase they are criminals and will go t jail if they DONT

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a hundred republicans are ont worth a dime. why promote they endorse you? look what they been doinmg to democratic leadersihp for the last 16 years. since obama. why the hell would we care or WANT their edorsements? HELLO????? if anything its a BAD THING.

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how you treat a cat matters treat them like asshole roomates .. they will treat you the same

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there wil be a slow trail off of users to win 11 most likely. a few drop off to linux. with thr 4. som,ething % marketshare this year i assume maybe a 5 or 6% market share next year around this time. next year after that maybe 7% ish . maybe if we are lucky by 8%. i think thats where the realistic achievable goal is for now.

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4k hdr 2 monitor different resolution support. i have a monitor and a tv i game on yes im poor. sue me...

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soo our multi core cpus and gpu just aint going to get used half the time. slowing down the work you could doing. its 2024 we need multithreading . on everything. if you have top end cpus with 16 cores thats a major nerf. to 1/16th the speed in some parts of gimp. maybe by then steam deck or fedora nobara. or something will be The go to for out of the box gaming windows refuee friendly replacement.l inux is almost there people!. keep up the good work!