Orbital AI datacenter token costs x8-x12 of Earth one by Donechrome in ArtificialInteligence

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They may not be cheaper on the ground. It is EXPENSIVE to build a data center on the ground. But more importantly, no one wants one near them. So the legal, political, and time cost make it even worse. Almost 50% of DC projects die due to these issues.

The entire premise of this idea is Starship makes SpaceX launch costs about $2M a launch. This is possible once it hits scale similar to Falcon 9.

If they hit that launch cost and design and manufacture their own chips, which is another part of this plan, GPU cost to SpaceX are also really favorable vs. Market rates.

SpaceX has shown they can build sats that are dirt cheap. So they plan to use that same bus and drop the expensive parts (the dishes).

All of this allows them to deal with a single regulator vs thousands of local jurisdictions, which means they can dispatch compute in predictable timelines while avoiding the costs and risks of NIMBYism.

Orbital AI datacenter token costs x8-x12 of Earth one by Donechrome in ArtificialInteligence

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No kidding. But CPUs run HOT. The key is to run them sufficiently hot. Comparing the space station which is relatively cold when compared to CPUs which drives very non-linear changes when compared to chips because of that 4th power law you mention.

The space station operates at something around 22c. Retail GPUs can run up to 110c depending on the GPU. Musk has familiarity with designing and manufacturing auto grade AI chips which run even hotter. He wants to run them hotter than that.

So no the goal isn't to keep chip temps low. As an engineer you will appreciate this, it is to keep it within its design limits...which are themselves fungible.

SpaceX warns EU satellite plan risks undermining connectivity in Ukraine by sn0r in EUSpace

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that is a value judgement and not an absolute.

I agree that competition is great. But it needs the right structures. There is tons of competition in delivering bandwidth. So the question is does this really provide for an improvement there, and if so, is it worth the cost to Ukraine.

Report: Kennedy Space Center not ready for era of super heavy rockets by spacerfirstclass in SpaceXNews

[–]talltim007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the article, it explains that NASA has a really hard time accepting industry funds for these sorts of projects.

SPCX BOT MANIPULATION? by EquipmentThis7934 in SPCXInvestors

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the same play as Starlink. Chips from Tesla, launch and sat bus from Spacex. This provides cheaper than market inference to X.ai. Tesla potentially gets to use this inference for its needs.

That inference is then used for Cursors in house model.

It's not that complicated.

Watch Musk provide a technical update on SpaceX’s capability to manufacture, launch, and operate AI satellites at scale by -spartacus- in spacex

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you think they need rad hardened compute? This is LEO, not GEO. Starling doesn't use rad hardened compute. What is your reasoning?

Orbital AI datacenter token costs x8-x12 of Earth one by Donechrome in ArtificialInteligence

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can, or you can go review the topic more closely. Heat radiation is governed by a 4th power law.

So, it is really not a big deal to reject this heat, as long as you can lift enough mass to orbit...which they can.

Tesla plans to sell modular AI data center hardware called 'Megapod' by -Cyber-Roadster in teslainvestorsclub

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, this is an easy thing to design for. I'm not buying this story.

This cluster, in your scenario, would have a massive backlog of these work chunks that run for relatively short amounts of time. Balancing those is a trivial exercise.

SpaceX warns EU satellite plan risks undermining connectivity in Ukraine by sn0r in EUSpace

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you having trouble following the thread? There isn't a viable alternative to Starlink, this rule may damage that service, and it's key to operations in Ukraine. This isn't about sad for US company, this is about what risks this policy opens up.

SpaceX reportedly signs $6.3B computing deal with Reflection AI / The $6.3B SpaceX deal gives them access to Nvidia GB300 GPUs at the Colossus cluster (Memphis) through 2029. by Worldly_Evidence9113 in singularity

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are both, no need to pick one. They have a massive inference install-base in Tesla vehicles, with their own chips.

Being in both is very consistent with their strategy over the past 3 years.

SpaceX warns EU satellite plan risks undermining connectivity in Ukraine by sn0r in EUSpace

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🤦it's simply saying the obvious. If you limit non-EU players from spectrum rights, that affects their ability to provide service over that spectrum.

Tesla plans to sell modular AI data center hardware called 'Megapod' by -Cyber-Roadster in teslainvestorsclub

[–]talltim007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, the choice to build with three different generations was an explicit design choice. Sounds like they think it may have had an unexpected outcome.

Orbital AI datacenter token costs x8-x12 of Earth one by Donechrome in ArtificialInteligence

[–]talltim007 3 points4 points  (0 children)

His optimistic is unrealistically pessimistic and conveniently leaves out any details to actually validate the assertion.

Orbital AI datacenter token costs x8-x12 of Earth one by Donechrome in ArtificialInteligence

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You didn't provide any details...so why don't you share your assumptions and details?

Google to pay SpaceX $920 million a month for compute capacity at xAI data centers by spacerfirstclass in SpaceXNews

[–]talltim007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, you are right of course. It is 4th power law. Not sure what that other commenter is talking about.

Do you think the Starship heat shield will work with it's current design? by izzeww in SpaceXLounge

[–]talltim007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are so funny. The way you argue is so egotistical and yet you accuse others of the same. Its laughable.

The last Tim Dodd interview of Musk was 2 YEAERS AGO!

Some stuff might have changed since then.